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Ormond



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Video of 9/11 plane hitting Pentagon is released Reply with quote

See the new Break for News Newsbytes on the Break for News front page:

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Video of 9/11 plane hitting Pentagon is released


Uh, I was expecting to see a plane hitting the Pentagon. All I saw is an explosion.

The report says there's a 747 in this video...."a white streak". Does somebody have superhuman eyesight?

This reminds me of Sybil Edmond's whistle blowing......as Finan remarked, "out of the range of human hearing".

I suppose as badly as the American public has failed to really grind things to a halt over these deceptions and wars, they think we're so dumbed down now that many will simply see whatever they tell us we see.

How many fingers am I holding up?

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: AND............ Reply with quote

Just want to add something about the difference between the WTC event and the Pentagon event.

Much disinfo has been put out saying that the planes that hit the WTC were 'holograms', etc. I have talked to personal friends and others that were in New York on 911 and were eyewitnesses, and I am certain the WTC got hit by real planes.

Now, we did not see the plane hit the pentagon on live TV, and no footage has ever been presented showing it. I've never met an eyewitness of that one, and the accounts I've read is that a lot of them thought the aircraft was smaller than an airliner.

Almost no wreckage was recovered, and there wasn't any aircraft debris....no wings, no nuthin'.......save for some relatively small engine part.

So.......before people start jumping to conclusions and using the Pentagon story to defend the WTC 'hologram' theory, take a deep breath and let's think this one through.

Is it possible that WTC was hit by the 2 airliners.....and the pentagon was hit by a drone or cruise missile?

Use our brains.
WTC was done in front of about a million or more witnesses. Cameras were on it the whole time from multiple angles. And they were completely demolished.

The Pentagon, a very important part of Government, was not demolicshed, and happened to be hit in the one wing of the pentagram that was closed and vacated. It was being remodelled, remember?

So God must love the military, because aside from the expendible office and construction workers killed, the Pentagon lost nothing.

Now there's your reasons for why WTC had to be hit by real planes, and the Pentagon may have been hit by something let us say, more 'surgical'.

I mean, it's like whomever hit the Pentagon didn't want to hurt anything valuable. That part of it had been cleared, and was under reconstruction to begin with.

If you're with me so far, how about the Psyop?

If somebody wanted to shoot somebody, and wanted to also cover it up, one way is to shoot them in the head, then shoot yourself someplace of your own choosing like the meaty part of the thigh, wipe the prints and put the gun in the victims hand, and then say, "he shot me! then he shot himself!"

That's a pretty familiar scenario since people have done such things like that to get away with murder. It seems logical to me that such sleight of mind could have been planned here........they get people talking about HOLOGRAMS hitting the WTC, and then the whole question of a cruise missle get's tossed as just as nutty.

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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even more crazy is just the fact that they put this out so shortly after sheen has been out challenging the story...so they put out a tape fueling even more conspiracies to sheens advantage? Thats jsut does not seem very strategic, unless it goes a lot deeper - maybe they just realize its time to get more people wondering about the issue - people moving away from not "if" but "who". This is also the tendency seen lately on other forums, lot of people starting to take the discussion and bitch about WHO did it. Zionists, jesuits, lizards...it really is bizarre that its gone this far. People can be united for a bit, but there are masters at work within the inteligence community and how much they have been playing around with us we just dont know...crazy
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya but Ormond if the planes were holograms you would still see them. Eyewitness accounts does not matter really right. Not that i buy this theory but since it is suppose to be a missle for the pentagon stike would they not use the same fot the WTC and cover it with a "hologram"? Just questioning all this and not really taking any sides at all. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Even more crazy is just the fact that they put this out so shortly after sheen has been out challenging the story...so they put out a tape fueling even more conspiracies to sheens advantage?


Yep. Media is operation mind fuck.

Couterintelligence is throwing a plethora of whacky stories out there so the information overload stops people from reasoning.

My grandfather and his generation were wise to the technique. they called that a 'snow job'.

Toto: I know optical physics and holography isn't capable of creating virtual realities in the sky in broad daylight. The hologram stories are pure science fiction disinfo.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a simple proposition: a plane did hit the Pentagon, and the 'no-plane' argument is disinfo, with the aim of providing a pointless distraction to split the opposition into warring camps. Which it has conveniently done. And it is another way of painting the opposition as conspiracy maniacs.

I don't buy the 'no-wreckage therefore no-plane' argument, for one simple reason: it is not unknown for an aircraft to hit a solid object and disintegrate, leaving little wreckage: there is test footage I have seen of an F-4 hitting a concrete barrier, and behaving in just this fashion. The actual impact hole in the Pentagon facade was very much plane-sized.

What puzzles me about this footage is that it is being touted as 'newly released', when I have been able to access it all over the web for years. The 9-11 Research website, which appears credible, draws attention to several strange features about the footage, one of which strikes me in particular as conclusive:

Look the the shadow of the building. Now look at the big explosion, and the very large pall of smoke. Where are the shadows of these occurrences?

Let me say it again. A big explosion takes place, and manages not to have a shadow.

Fake!
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, all that the release has done is justify Judicial Watch's inclusion in Fintan's CIA Fakes.
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"We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a group that sued for the videos release.

"Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77," he said in a statement.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moylan wrote:
The actual impact hole in the Pentagon facade was very much plane-sized.
What about the wings?There is no damage to the building where the wings would have hit,you can see where there were windows that hadnt even been broken.I realize that the walls and windows were made to be blast resistant but that still doesnt explain the inconsistent damage.
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I don't buy the 'no-wreckage therefore no-plane' argument, for one simple reason: it is not unknown for an aircraft to hit a solid object and disintegrate, leaving little wreckage: there is test footage I have seen of an F-4 hitting a concrete barrier, and behaving in just this fashion.
I would like to point out that there is a significant difference between an F-4 being flown into a concrete barrier and a 757 flying into the pentagon.My father works for the NTSB and I have seen many pictures of various plane crashes,and the one thing they all had in common was that you could tell that a plane crashed,and there is almost always identifiable wreckage,whether the plane smashed into a mountainside at full speed or nose dived into the ground.This cannot be said for the pentagon site.No luggage,no seats no wing sections,nothin.There is too much mass to a 757 to completely vaporize in such a crash.Another anomaly would be the light poles that "flight 77" supposedly clipped on its aproach to the pentagon.Go back and look at the pictures,the light poles are facing the wrong way and are not even damaged,they look as if they just fell over.Now,if an airplane clips anything at 500 mph,even a light pole,that plane would not just fly along as if nothing happened,extensive damage would occur to both the light pole and the airplane,which would crash almost immediately.So either the laws of physics took a break on 9-11-01 or we are dealing with something other than a 757 hitting a building.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an airline scaled to the 757 with the pentagon scaled to correct size and height. (I used Google Earth and Google-sketchup 3D)

This is what you would expect to see.





and taken from the same spot as the security camera



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Minutia Again Reply with quote

Hey All,

Take a step back from the "new" Pentagon videos for a moment. Last month, Tony(tarbaby) Snow(job) was made the new Whitehouse press secretary. In his previous life, he was a right-winged bullshit artist commentator for Fox News. Now all of a sudden, judicialwatch.org gives an exclusive release for the "new" and "useless" Pentagon videos to Fox news! Rupert Murdock is the disinfo mouth piece for the nuts running the world right now. See the bigger pattern yet? Stop pissing around with the minutia and grab a hold of the big picture once and for all. These videos are designed to put everyone(sheep) back to sleep again and get the "tinfoil hat" brigade all in a lather. At the peak of the lather ... they will release some big time, made in Hollywood, mind fuck videos to crush the soul and reputation of the "tinfoil hat" brigade ... just sit back and watch it happen. Fintan was right on the money with judicialwatch.org ... fucking fakes! (and steamy!) Cue the videos taken from the hotel and gas station overlooking the Pentagon ....

- Hawk

PS This post in NO way endorses any belief in the use of holograms/phantoms/blue screens/divine intervention etc. involved in government sponsored deceptions OR life in general. Reality is what it is ... deal with it! Wink

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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Get Real................. Reply with quote

Shocked From 'whats his name', Hillary's Pimp, playing on the 'holo-decks' of geeee, i'm a 'real guy', Captain Video, etc, comes the 'opinions' straight out of 'Mind-Control'...............

Get it.....there were NO FN PLANES, that's why 'they' go to great lenghts to make you think there was, from the 'First Asshole Idiot' who 'slipped' and said he saw the First [non-plane] hit and thought the 'pilot' sure couldn't fly.......it's no-big-thing to make many people 'think' that they saw Planes etc and yes 'Holograms' are really out there...............you and 'millions' saw the images that 'they' wanted you to see on fn TV and that clear-cut Image of a Plane, with its wings, engines, lading gear, etc that was made at WTC, was just a 'Hollywood' Image..............

See a loop-2-loop of the Plane going into WTC and you can see that it doesn't break-up at all !...........get real, use your brain and realize that you are going from one 'wild goose' chase to the next as Captain Video leads you...it's a 'Hollywood' made for TV Soap Opera........................

Like the Apollo Moon Program could go through the 'Van Allen Radition Belt'..[they would have been fried in that Buck Rogers Craft]...........it was a 'Show/Program' ! and so was 911......

Look at your 13yo and older Sons n Daughters and tell me that they are-not Men or Women and you call em 'KIDS'.....wow, if you don't even know what was done to your 'emotion', 'passion' in your 'teenage ADULT' years and run the same crap on your 'CHILDREN'.....you have my 'compassion and pity' but I know that you are full-of-crap and can't think straight because 'they' got the 'Flag' up your butt, Pole and all...and I'm not going to be quiet... Wink :roll: Cool

Your Sperm count is down to 25% of what it should be and 'they' are filling us with 'female-harmones' and killing 1/3 of the 'Babies' in the 'Madonna's Womb'............and you are still running on the 911 Hollywood Program..........'Wag the WTC/Pentagon' ... enough, it was controlled demolitions and 'holograms' and edited film clips and 'mass mind-control' Wink :roll:

Ave Maria ! the 14yo Mother-of-GOD {going to 'play' myself} tune in 2my channels in ur brain/heart/bowels etc and let the 'Playwright Jesus's' script come through...................LOLove n luck and good sex/vigor/emotions Arrow right-on Laughing Shocked :roll:
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think happened at the Pentagon, Geo?
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex jones had one of those judicialwatch people on yesterday. His views on it isnt far from fintans on this matter either, in fact to me they sound the same
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V, I missed hearing Fintan's conclusion. Where can I find it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:00 am    Post subject: Dear Ormond.... Reply with quote

Shocked Captain Video as I said before...there was NO PLANES in the ' Wag 911 WTC/Pentagon Soap Opera' just a 'Hollywood Program' Controlled Demolitions/ Holograms/ Edited TV Feeds/ Mass Mind Control.....

Call Alan Watt up at www.sweetliberty.org Wedsnight 9PM EST Show and ask him your questions there...call on the '25' line, the '35' one is Jackies pvt line...you can call Jackie on it in the daytime or evening and if shes not busy, she will shoot the breeze with you...Numbers listed on Jackies site...sweet liberty... Cool ...Also if you catch Alan on his '705' [Canada] line, he will talk for a long time and answer your questions {he likes that one on one talking if your seeking 'Awareness' }...don't waste his time trying to 'convert' him Wink ...if you listen to the sweet liberty show of 5/17/6 [listed on Alans site] you see how Jackie trys to make Alan say something in the last 15mins of the show but Alan answers her in his own way and he makes a very, very powerfull statement... :roll:

If your heard what Alan said, keep in mind that poor Lucifer and the 'fallen angels' surrendered to the Blessed Virgin Mary at Calvery...And poor Lucifer says to-all that Lucifer doesn't want anyone/creature worshipping the creature Lucifer as ' the main god ' as that poor Lucifer knows now that dear Jesus was truely the Son-of-GOD who came in Mary's Flesh and in Him/Jesus in Mary with the-son-of-david joseph in us all we can become 'gods' as He meant for us to be [john 10:34]...Also Mary gave Francis-of-Assisi the Throne-of-Light and if you can get there, you will find Lucifer there, as brother Francis would have it no-other-way [and it is marvelous]...ohh make sure Mary and or Francis or Padre Pio { did u hear that Padre Pio must of came back n took his body out with him from his grave] is around in your talks with poor Lucifer, otherwise Lucifer says that you may be part or the cause of the 'Ego Trip' that poor Lucifer was on before Mary freed us all at Calvery with her dear son Jesus ! {ohh the angels are perfect balance of male and female } :roll: Wink Cool Very Happy

OK, lets get up there with the BVM [hope ur heard the sweet liberty show of 5/17} and change this fn Planet..and you can start by treating the Infants/Children/Boys/Girls/13yo Men/13yo Women with respect due a 'god'/'goddess' {saint} [jn 10:34] Arrow right-on :roll: Shocked Laughing !

LOLove n luck and good sex/vigor/emotions...welcome home ! the Throne-of-GOD, Mary's Heart...the Gate-of-Heaven :roll: Idea Holy Smoke there, Amos ! ...Ave Maria ! :roll:
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