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THE CLUB OF ROME


The First Global Revolution
A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome
Pantheon Books
New York, 1991. ISBN #0-679-73825-8

Chapter V pg 104

THE VACUUM


ORDER IN SOCIETEY IS DETERMINED BY THE cohesion of it’s members. Until the middle of our century this was normally ensured by a natural patriotism, a sense of belonging to the community, and respect for the state and it’s leaders, however remote they might be from the people. Meanwhile,
generalized religious faith has evaporated in many countries; respect for the political process has also faded owing partly to the media, leading to indifference if not hostility, and partly to the inadequacy of the political parties in facing real problems; minorities are less and less willing to respect the decisions of the majority. Thus a vacuum has been created,
in which both order and objectives in society are being corroded.


Today’s approach is superficial. It is based on current events and dangers as they are perceived and on crisis government attempts to eliminate symptoms of causes that have not been diagnosed.
This is the way we are setting the scene for mankind’s encounter with the planet.

We look in vain for wisdom.* The opposition between the two ideologies that have dominated the century has collapsed, forming their own vacuum and leaving nothing but crass materialism. Nothing within the governmental system and its decision making process seems capable of opposing of modifying these trends which raise questions about our common future and indeed about the very survival of the race.

We must ask whether these are signs of an individual and collective resignation in the face of the vastness of the task facing humanity and the urgent need for action; or is this a sign of lack of imagination and incapacity to invent new ways and new means which will measure up to the globalization of the problems? The task is indeed formidable, but if we show no sign of accepting its challenge, the people may well panic, lose faith in their leaders, give in to fear and offer support to those extremists who know well how to turn popular fear to their own advantage with incendiary charismatic speeches.

It is a law of Nature than any vacuum will be filled and therefore eliminated unless this is physically prevented.
Nature,” as the saying goes, “abhors a vacuum.
And people, as children of Nature, can only feel uncomfortable, even though they may not recognize that they are living in a vacuum.
How then is the vacuum to be eliminated?
Like the black holes of space which suck in everything that approaches, the vacuum of society seems to attract the best and worst at random. We can but hope that the semi-chaos is now taking over will eventually provide the material for a self-organized system with new possibilities. The system is not yet hopeless, but human wisdom must be marshaled quickly if we are to survive.*

“How simple things were with Brezhnev,” a European leader confided, half seriously and half ironically. The collapse of communism in the Eastern European countries and the Soviet Union constitutes a major and unsettling factor in this coming turn of the century. The new hands that are to be dealt in the card game of politics are unlikely to be assessed at their true value or their potential consequences evaluated until at least two or three decades have gone by.

The implosion of the ideology that dominated the greater part of the twentieth century was certainly spectacular, but was by no means the only one. It coincides with the end of the “American dream, “ which lost its credibility with the painful Vietnam War that deeply scarred the collective conscience, with the failure of Challenger, Hispanic migration, poverty within plenty, drugs, violence and AIDS and the fact that the “melting pot” no longer works. Having lost its position of unique leadership in the world—a leadership compounded of generosity laced with Puritan values and cynicism worthy of the conquerors of the Far West—the American nation is plunged into doubt and facing the temptation, so often resisted and no longer possible in the global village, of withdrawing into itself.

Most of the poor countries are gradually relinquishing Marxist and socialist incantations in favour of more concrete and immediate preoccupations such as economic development and the stabilization of their economies. Capitalist and free-market economies have found it necessary to make adjustments for them to survive socially, while socialist systems also made adjustments belatedly, but did not survive. Only materialism remains today a strong all-pervading countervalue. The grand political and economic theories which motivated the action of some and aroused the opposition of others appear to have run their course.

It is not easy to stimulate universal debate on ideas but the lack of attempts to do so still further deepens the vacuum. There is pressing need for such a debate, and the multitudinous occasions for international encounters, with their cross-cultural discussions, should initiate new and more global thinking.

This period of absence of thought and a lack of a common vision—not of what the world of tomorrow will be, but of what we want it to be so that we can shape it—is once source of discouragement and even despair. How simple it was, or should have been, for France, Great Britain and their allies to mobilize against their common Nazi enemy. And was it not obvious during the period of the cold war that the Western nations should accomplish a diplomatic, economic and technological mobilization against the Soviet Union and the satellite countries? Again, freedom fighters, despite tribal and ideological differences, were able to find unity and strengthen patriotism in a struggle for independence from the common enemy, the colonial power.

It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum
such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor.
States have striven to overcome domestic failure and internal contradictions by designating external enemies A scapegoat practice is as old as mankind itself, when things become too difficult at home divert attention by adventure abroad.
Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose.
With the disappearance of the traditional enemy, the temptations to designate a scapegoat, religious or ethnic minorities whose differences are disturbing.

Can we live without enemies? Every state has been so used to classifying its neighbors as friend or foe that the sudden absence of traditional adversaries has left governments and public opinion with a great void.
New enemies therefore have to be identified.
New strategies imagined new weapons devised.
The new enemies may have changed the nature and location, but they are no less real. They threaten the whole human race and their names are: pollution, water shortage, famine, malnutrition, illiteracy, unemployment. However, it appears that awareness of the new enemies is as yet insufficient to illicit world cohesion and solidarity for the fight. Also, the collapse of the ideologies has removed some of the necessary points of reference."

Two axis of reference have made possible political evolution that has shaken the world these last years and led to the downfall of many dictatorships. These are human rights and democracy. We shall analyze their strengths and limitations. The concept of human rights has been, during the past decade, a factor of mobilization that became effective through its dissemination by the media and by word of mouth in the countries where those rights were disregarded and denied. When freedom was widely enjoyed in other countries, how could the people be divided of it indefinitely? This is especially the case in countries such as Poland or Brazil, where the Catholic Church, an ardent protagonist and supporter of human rights, was strong.

In some of the most totalitarian of countries, aspirations of freedom have been achieved as if the pressure of values has reached a yield point and the lid suddenly blew off the pot. Through various processes and with the painful cost of civil struggle, death, imprisonment, this thirst for freedom was expressed around men such as different as Martin Luther King, Lech Walessa, Vaclave Havel, Dom Helder Camara or Nelson Mandela, just as in earlier years Mahatma Gandhi paved the way.

But freedom alone cannot reorganize the state, write a Constitution, create a market of economic growth, rebuild industry and agriculture or build a new social structure. It is a necessary and noble inspiration, but is far from being an operating manual for a new government. This is why the concept of human rights simply initiates but cannot implement the process of democratization. This is where the question must be raised, what democracy and for what purposes? The old democracies have functioned reasonably well over the last 200 years, but they appear now to be in a phase of complacent stagnation with little evidence of real leadership and innovation. It is to be hoped, with a new found enthusiasm for democracy in the liberated countries today, that people will not reproduce slavish copies of existing models that are unable to meet contemporary needs.

Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious although as this may sound, has never practiced
democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead.
The complexity and the technical nature of many of today's problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time. Few politicians in office are sufficiently aware of the global nature of the problems in front of them and have little if any awareness of the interactions between the problems. Generally speaking, informed discussion on the main political, economic and social issues takes place on radio and television, rather than in Parliament, to the detriment of the latter. Political party activities are so intensely focused on election deadlines and party rivalries that they end up weakening the democracy they're supposed to serve. This confrontational approach gives an impression that party needs come before national interests. Strategies and tactics seem more important than objectives, and often a constituency is neglected as soon as it is conquered. The current mode of operation in western democracies are seeing their former role decline and public opinion drifting away from elected representatives. However, the crisis in the contemporary democratic system must not be allowed to serve as an excuse for rejecting democracy as such. In the countries now opening up to freedom. Democracy is being introduced in a situation which demands that the citizens greatly changed attitudes and patterns of behavior. The inevitable problems of phasing out democracy are difficult, but there is another still more serious question. Democracy does not necessarily build a bridge between a colonial or neo-colonial economy or a centralized bureaucratic economy towards a market economy based on competition and producing growth. In a transitional situation such as the present which because of sudden and unforeseen change has been neither planned nor prepared for. The necessary structures attitudes market relations and managerial styles simply do not exist. If such a situation is allowed to go on too long, it is probable that
democracy will be made to seem responsible for the
lagging economy,
the scarcity and uncertainties.
The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other.


Winston Churchill was right when he quipped, “democracy is the worst of all systems, except for the rest,” yet we must be aware of its erosion, its fragility and its limitations. When persons say that the things that have to be done to improve our situation are perfectly obvious, they seldom ask “why aren't they done then?”, and if they do, they answer, “ because we lack the political will or because of habits or short sightedness or politics et cetera, et cetera.” Our inability to indicate how to overcome these sources of inertia and resistance makes it clear that what should be done is not obvious at all. We overlook, psychologically speaking, we deny it. We deny our ignorance and instead say all we lack is the political will. The crucial need is to revitalize democracy and give it a breath of perspective that will enable it to cope with the evolving global situation. In other words, is this new world we find ourselves in governable? The answer is probably not with the existing structures and attitudes. Have we gathered the necessary means and wisdom to make decisions on the scale of the world problematique taking into account the exigencies of our time? There is an increasingly evident contradiction between the urgency of making some decisions and the democratic procedure founded on various dialogues, such as Parliamentary debate, public debate and negotiations with trade unions or professional organizations. The obvious advantage of this procedure is its achievement of consensus. It’s disadvantaged lies and the time it takes especially at the international level. Time in these matters has acquired a deep ethical content. The costs of delay are monstrous in terms of human life and hardship, as well of resources. The slowness of decision in a democratic system is particularly damaging at the international level. When dictators attack and international policing is required, delays of decisions can be fatal. The problem then is to invent instruments of governance capable of mastering change without violence and of maintaining a quality of peace which encourages rather than inhibits the state of security, fairness and fulfilling growth for individuals and societies alike. Not only do we have to find better means of governance at national and international levels, but we have also determined the characteristics of a capacity to govern. Global governance, in our vocabulary, does not imply a global government, but rather the institutions of cooperation, coordination and common action between durable sovereign states. People and nations are beginning to agree to take next steps together. However, they're carefully avoiding to agree on why they're agreeing. This seems to be happening by practical consensus procedures, rather than by formal voting often instructed governmental representatives. Many international functions especially those requiring the most foresight and operational flexibility can be carried out through non-governmental arrangements.

In many fields, governments have already come to realize that effective deployment of their most cherished right their sovereignty requires that it be pooled with the sovereignty of other nations in order to do things that none of them can do alone. In this sense, cooperation does not mean relinquishing sovereignty but rather exerting it through joint action instead of losing it or just not using it. Whether on the international scale at the national level or that of the corporation, the problem of governance presents itself in new terms. The growing complexity of the world and of its problems makes it necessary to have a complete grasp on tremendous amounts of information before coming to a decision. This immediately calls to account the quality of information, for it is under constant danger of rapid obsolescence, possible inaccuracy or outright propaganda.

A second impediment to governance is caused by the increasing size and inertia of large bureaucracies that spread their tentacles around the centers of power and slow down or paralyze both decision making and implementation.Other crucial impediments consist of the lack of education for competent citizenship and inadequate intergenerational understanding. Yet another difficulty arises from the importance of the economy within the administration and its sectoral structures. If the different power centers do not learn to cooperate and instead insist in acting in ignorance or in opposition to one another, the resulting administrative sluggishness can provoke delays that can lead to inefficiency, wrong decisions and confrontation. So far, governance has operated by treating problems separately and in a vertical mode. Today, the interaction between problems is such that no single issue can even be approached to say nothing of resolved outside of the framework of the problematique. This in turn demands leaders of a new kind capable of treating problems both horizontally and vertically.

In the world that is emerging, decision making can no longer be the monopoly of governments and their departments working in, yes, a vacuum. There is need to bring many partners into the process business and industry, research institutions, scientists, non-governmental organizations and private organizations. So that the widest available experience and skill is available, and of course an enlightened public support an enlightened public support aware of the new needs and of the possible consequences would be essential. A dynamic world needs an effective nervous system at the grass roots level not only to ensure the widest range of inputs, but to make possible the identification of all citizens with the common process of governance.
In the present vacuous situation, lack of identification of people with the processes of society is expressed as indifference, skepticism or outright rejection of governments and political parties seen as having little control over the problems of our times. These attitudes are indicated by a decreasing rate of participation in elections.

The common enemy of humanity is man.

In searching for a new enemy
to unite us,
we came up with the idea
that pollution,
the threat of
global warming,
water shortages,
famine

and the like
would fit the bill.



In their totality and in their interactions, these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands solidarity of all peoples, but in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.

The real enemy then
is humanity itself.





Some American Members of the Club of Rome

Al Gore*

ZBIGNEW BRZEZENSKI (1st Director, 1973)

Jimmy Carter

Bill Gates

George Soros


Other Members

Maurice Strong*

*Al Gore was US Representative at the meeting on the Kyoto Protocols, 1992
*Canadian billionaire Maurice Strong is co-author of the Kyoto Protocols



To promote this one-worldism, the Club is developing what Peccei calls "a trilogy of efforts," starting with a report titled "Reshaping the International Order." Written by Nobel Prizewinning Dutch Economist Jan Tinbergen and 20 top government advisers—Club members are nothing if not highly placed—it is mainly concerned with the kinds of action that might influence selective growth. One recommendation will be to create new international monetary .

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,879689,00.html?iid=chix-sphere

Hegelian Dialectic

The Hegelian Dialectic is, in short, the critical process by which the ruling elite create a problem, anticipating in advance the reaction that the population will have to the given crisis, and thus conditioning the people that a change is needed. When the population is properly conditioned, the desired agenda of the ruling elite is presented as the solution. The solution isn't intended to solve the problem, but rather to serve as the basis for a new problem or exacerbate the existing one.



Sophistry

Is the art of persuasion through beginning an argument with premises are widely accepted and also evoke emotional responses
Post hoc ergo propter hoc (after this, therefore because of this). This fallacy occurs when people assume that if event A preceded event B, then A caused B.

Doublethink
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the same old tricks... provide a false enemy to control people. Provide FORCE.

What they don't understand is that people aren't buying it anymore. What they don't understand is that they are obsolete. That they are not a force. And that they are marked for extinction through their own fearful acts of force.

What they don't understand is that their perceived "vacuum", that their "nature so abhors", is an emerging Environment of human consciousness, not fear. What they don't understand is that we seek friends to bind our strengths through co-operation, not fear and division and enemies. That we place great value in real things, in natural things, in environment, that we create and nurture ourselves.

What they don't understand is that we are the force. It isn't a vacuum they have identified... its a rising pressure. And they are full of fear.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Obeylittle:
What they don't understand is that we seek friends to bind our strengths through co-operation, not fear and division and enemies. That we place great value in real things, in natural things, in environment, that we create and nurture ourselves.



Yes, they don't understand our way of cooperation because their cooperation with each other is different in every respect.
These are the high psychopaths, not the garden variety types shown on America's Most Wanted. What distinguishes the Pathocrat from the common rapist is their pathology has been inbred for generations between their families. They are 'self actualized' 'high functioning' psychopaths. What distinguishes them is their special ability to work in a hierarchy -- just like a wolf pack.
The organization of a predator pack animal of any species is NOT based on TRUST. It is based upon force and coercion.

The predator is a creature of pure self interest. The Pathocrat is a humanoid predator who can work in a pack because they can control their outward behavior, and act as they see the human beings act. But they can't understand the power of comraderie and trust, nor can they experience the love of nature without the need to OWN it all.

But when push comes to shove, the Pathocrat - the pack psychopath - will invariably be a creature of pure self-interest.

Quote:

(fron 1972 interview with Maurice Strong)

The BBC reporter asked him what discipline and control people could expect - would it include legal limits on the number of children that a family could have?

Strong explained: "Licences to have babies incidentally is something that I got in trouble for some years ago for suggesting even in Canada that this might be necessary at some point, at least some restriction on the right to have a child." - 1972

http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/HTML/Maurice-Strong/article1.html


Here recorded in 1990 for posterity, Maurice Strong says a little too much after a few glasses of really good Champaign after dinner at the Davos Economic Forum meeting...
Here, Strong slips and shares one his little wet dream fantasies with a reporter.......

Quote:
In 1990, Strong told a reporter a fantasy scenario for the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland - where 1,000 diplomats, CEOs and politicians gather "to address global issues."

Strong, naturally, is on the board of the World Economic Forum. "What if a small group of these world leaders were to conclude the principal risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?...

In order to save the planet, the group decides: Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring this about?"

That's Strong talking, but those are Blofeld's words coming out. But this is no fictitious Bond movie villain speaking - it is the man who chaired the Rio Earth Summit and who is Kofi Annan's senior adviser.

"This group of world leaders forms a secret society to bring about an economic collapse," continued Strong, warming to his fantasy. "It's February. They're all at Davos. These aren't terrorists.

"They're world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world's commodities and stock markets. They've engineered, using their access to stock markets and computers and gold supplies, a panic. Then, they prevent the world's stock markets from closing. They jam the gears. They hire mercenaries who hold the leaders at Davos as hostage. The markets can't close..."


Strong catches himself. "I probably shouldn't be saying things like this."

Understand that the current perception of 'failure of the Economy', the perplexing waste of senseless wars, and especially the 'failure Democracy' is being MADE happen by these psychopaths who are in the position to fuck it all up.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obeylittle wrote:
What they don't understand is that people aren't buying it anymore. What they don't understand is that they are obsolete. That they are not a force. And that they are marked for extinction through their own fearful acts of force.

What they don't understand is that their perceived "vacuum", that their "nature so abhors", is an emerging Environment of human consciousness, not fear. What they don't understand is that we seek friends to bind our strengths through co-operation, not fear and division and enemies. That we place great value in real things, in natural things, in environment, that we create and nurture ourselves.

What they don't understand is that we are the force. It isn't a vacuum they have identified... its a rising pressure. And they are full of fear.


Damn Obeylittle, you are GOOD. Read this 10-times, everyone, let it sink in.

As always, unbelievable work, Ormond. The Maurice Strong quotes are
freaking unbelievable...just god-damn-unbelievable !!! I find it really
hard sometimes to figure out what they're going to do cause my brain
just won't let me go low enough....it's a real limitation, as it prevents me
from preparing for the worst scenario. Seems like no matter what I
dream up, these guys can go to gutters that I've never imagined....hold
the guys hostage to keep the markets open and crashing, just beautiful
stuff.

We have what we need. The vectors that are being played out are right
there in black and white. Do you need any more to wake you up and
to encourage you to take action?

It's time to get on the Distribute the Message Vector.

What are you waiting for?
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The Club of Rome wrote:
The common enemy of humanity is man.


The common enemy of POWER OVER humanity is THE COMMON man.
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There is no low that the "pathocrat class" won't go. If its imaginable, its doable and may very well be done. This "class" of people are bred from old royalty influences through their hierarchal "corporate-like" control structured environment. They are a reflection of their "parents" and still their boss, the old world royalty. They are simply the product of their ruling environment.

I feel uncomfortable using the term "class" to identify groups of people. But it is easier for many to absorb and relate to the vision created in their minds while using that term. So I'll allow each of us to cast aside those divisive control terms in our own time. We will all someday soon grow beyond the need for that, I'm sure. Meanwhile, the term pathocrat class serves to paint the picture for many... one only needs to identify its creators and nurturers.

They are non-viable parasitic spawn of old royalty. Old royalty being non-viable themselves.

As we are able to observe and study human environmental structures in 3-D panoramic view -- should we simply expand our field of vision -- we discover a construct that is consuming itself from the bottom up and from the inside, out. We find that this is inevitable through its hierarchal predatory design. For while engaged in aggressive acts, as is its purpose and inherent nature; while this construct cannot feed upon its "host" targets to infinity, it must then and now be turning upon, feeding upon, itself. In fact, we observe that it is indeed feeding upon, destroying itself, with every act whether deemed "successful" or not. Every act serves to destruct, to weaken the whole.

Predatory aggression and violence are two of it's few tools. Fear and desperation insures that those few tools are wielded in every predatory act. It must consume. It is parasitic. It cannot evolve within or escape from its artificially constructed, severely limiting, hierarchal environment.

So, the pathocrats we have identified and observe are those non-viable parasites. They are active co-creators of their own inevitable extinction. Infinity on this planet exists not for them. Not for their unnatural destructive environment. Brutal truths.

We can all get on the Distribute the Message Vector at will. We are in fact already, though for some it may not yet be self-consciously apparent. It is through our quest for knowledge and local, co-creative, co-operation in implementing local solutions to our needs; that we are each active vectored points of distribution within our immediate communities. We distribute messages of greater understanding when we discover, discuss and implement natural solutions. I found an example here earlier in a thread began by Xiang where that post asks what we all do for fun?

At the time that I read that thread by Xiang there were about four or five posts, two of which mentioned gardening as being rewarding and fun. That thread brought a smile to me because I have found a nearby neighbor in my area that is willing to work together for a common goal, to each grow foods that must be separated from one another by a distance to avoid natural cross-breeding among species in the same botanical plant "families". We will share in the work on our two plots, nurturing our gardens from heirloom seed saving collections and share our harvests by canning them. We will create more diverse food stocks for ourselves while also considerably increasing our yields per acre.

The important messages are being delivered locally with focused, practical growth solutions. It's natural for greater understanding to occur in those solution oriented discussions lacking hierarchal constructs or leader-based concepts. It is not a force. It is not threatening or divisive. It is a natural result. From those practical explorations and successes we observe that we may co-operate through further co-creativity to advance any of our needs.

We expand our conscious viewport in order to understand the whole. We must create most of our solutions locally though, through successfully creating practical examples that serve our local environmental needs. It is our environmental needs that must be created and enjoined first. This environment we depend upon must be viable to infinity so it must become a natural model. You guys and gals are already onto all this and that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obeylittle wrote:
Its the same old tricks... provide a false enemy to control people. Provide FORCE.

What they don't understand is that people aren't buying it anymore. What they don't understand is that they are obsolete. That they are not a force. And that they are marked for extinction through their own fearful acts of force.

What they don't understand is that their perceived "vacuum", that their "nature so abhors", is an emerging Environment of human consciousness, not fear. What they don't understand is that we seek friends to bind our strengths through co-operation, not fear and division and enemies. That we place great value in real things, in natural things, in environment, that we create and nurture ourselves.

What they don't understand is that we are the force. It isn't a vacuum they have identified... its a rising pressure. And they are full of fear.



Obey Little those are wonderful words but do the people on this forum practice that?

Michael Moore is a CIA agent, Alex Jones is too

Denise Kucinich is communist

Ramsey Clark is CIA

Cyndi Sheehan Is CIA

On and on and on and on, it never stops, if you see something positive in that show me?

With that kind of enviroment they dont have a thing to worry about, my friend!

Where is this great pool of unity you’re speaking of?


If you want what you speak of people have to build bridges to each other, how is that done with all this suspicion?
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zak247 wrote:
if you want what you speak of people have to build bridges to each other, how is that done with all this suspicion?


Let the Truth Set us Free.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's not kid ourselves folks. The generational psychopaths have human behavior down to a science, and the plan outlined in this 1991 Club of Rome peek-a-boo at it has been working. The public of today relative even 1991 has allowed themselves be more dumbed down, less critical, and downright cowardly in standing up for courage of our convictions in the active, every day sense. The predictions of the writer of that document are correct --

generalized religious faith has evaporated in many countries;

I see people not simply rejecting religion, but chiming in with ridiculing the genuine wisdom contained in the religions. Of xourse we don't need priests and blind obedience to man-made hypocritical institutionalized parodies of righteousness...but righteousness itself has become something people piss on in public now.

respect for the political process has also faded owing partly to the media, leading to indifference if not hostility

He's referring to the political process of the hard won civil right of the people of any society to have a say in how their society, community, and lives are structured. I see people either giving up and leaving their hard won right to participate in that process fall to sloth bitching about 'why aren't they doing what they promised?' Because they dumbed down 50 years of generations to think of the government as a parent who's supposed to take care of us instead of never forgetting that a Democracy is adult human beings ALL participating in creating the society they want, and keeping the keen eye on what the 'elect' are doing. Going to the city council meetings, questioning legislation, pressuring legislators and officials IN PERSON and not with a click on some internet poll only.
WE'VE LEFT THE FOXES TO TAKE CARE OF THE HENHOUSE, FOLKS.

As for the 'vacuum'...THESE GUYS CREATED THAT VACUUM.

By undermining institutions people had fought and died to get handles on, to make and keep equitable. EQUITY IS THE CORNERSTONE OF MAGNA CARTA......and Magna Carta was where modern Democracy begins.

An old motto of the republic was 'Don't Tread on Me', now it's morphed into
'Don't Bother Me'. We still have handles and we need to start using them--use it or lose it.
Government whether in DC or your City Hall is not there to SERVE-US. They will naturally get taken over by sociopaths and mafias unless enough members of the community show up for meetings, keep track of the bills, go sit in the public galleries still open to the public to observe the fucker in session.
These guys have put billions into media and movies and entertainment to train the public to think we just pull a lever and that's all there is too it. And their goal is to get enough people believing that Democracy 'failed', so why not just let HOMELAND SECURITY handle things?

minorities are less and less willing to respect the decisions of the majority.

What an arrogant statement. What majority? They've split everybody up into micromanaged factions of every description in the way we percieve ourselves.......there are no 'minorities' really - except one. That's the minority of corporate criminals and the rest is everyone that wants to live and let live, without a pack of predators herding us around and telling us what we are. Right, Left, black, white, poor, better off slaves to money or pretty rich people who flatter themselves to believe the PATHOCRATS see them any differently than they do the rest of the herd, we've got to wake up to the fact that we are living under the gun, soldier or civilian we're ALL living under the gun and enslaved by their credit $$$ system that are taking over total control of free enterprise, the industry, the food supply, energy----now they want to take over and tax the air we exhale.

There are no divisions once we're starving, homeless, or dead, people. These differences must be reduced in perception to the two real types -- human beings versus humanoid control freaks.

Thus a vacuum has been created,
in which both order and objectives in society are being corroded.


THEY have created this vacuum! They've been undermining and tearing up the sane social peace that was fought together through the blood and struggles of past generations with these motherfuckers. People beat them back before, many times. And they got just as far as they are now, many times before. This is nothing new.....don't them them kid us, and lets not kid ourselves.

We CAN push these bastards to retreat back into the shadows again.......what did it before was the common awareness of what they are so people everywhere can see through the big lie and look them in the eye and tell them 'we know what you're doing and you're not FOOLING US.
. but we MUST first realize they ARE a real threat to us and anyone and anything we care about, right down to your pets. And they HAVE been kicking our asses though we didn't really want to face it until this decade has made the sweet bliss of ignorance impossible.
First thing is, we have to take them seriously. They're winning left and right. But we can now DRAW THE LINE. NO MORE. Tell them to their faces show up at the council meetings. Look them in the eye. COMPLAIN.
What will work is when people have some common sense again enough to stand up to them with each one of these insults we're expected to put up with every day in our lives now. QUESTION AUTHORITY.

Show these think tanks they're wrong because they are watching us all now. They're seeing what they wanted to see-----people 'going along', compliance, apathy, silence------non participation in our own daily lives.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormond wrote:
There are no divisions once we're starving, homeless, or dead, people. These differences must be reduced in perception to the two real types -- human beings versus humanoid control freaks.


That's it in a nutshell. And the first step is knowing yourself and where you stand, with one type or the other. And then you show others by example .

And you do it any way you can, using your own creativity and your own way. No one way is the only way.

And attacking each other, here, of all places, serves no useful purpose other than stroking one's ego. Isn't there enough of that bullshit everywhere else?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are all active practitioners. We observe. Identify. Analyze. Create. Nurture. Unify. We Celebrate.

We do NOT fight crazed bulls in their chutes and pens while reasonably expecting a "win" or a bye. Life on this planet does not have to consist of constant battles with pathocrat monsters down on the military courtyard squares. To accept those notions as viable tactics for survival inserts your ass cleanly into the grand chessboard's stupidity trickbox. Easy prey... another Jeffrey Dahmer victim baited and neatly packaged for the cannibal-ist freezer.

All rise please. We are being threatened by a spoiled, drunk, 15 year old waving mommy's gun in our faces. We must remain sober adults.

We are every dream ever dreamt, every vision ever envisioned, every word ever spoken, every thought ever thunk, every deed ever done, every trust ever entrusted, every power ever granted. We are conscious beings in possession of higher powers we are only now beginning to more fully sense.

This great pool of unity I am speaking of is right here and right there, now and everywhere our consciousness invades and inhabits. It is in everything we do and touch and within every purist explorer and devoted scholar, within every child we love.

It is our limitless reflection of will.

With that view reflecting into ourselves we may realize that we don't have anything to fear except for the hapless aggressive deeds of certain others. Others, including those types of folks you and I and Ormond and Gary and Zak and Navari and Fintan and everyone contributing here have labeled; aren't in personal possession of their will, aren't nurturing a perpetual healthy environment. Aren't unified by possession of powers even as pertains to controlling frenzy upon themselves. They have accepted their destructive, dualistic ends and it is only them now whom may provide them. It is their will that their parasitic winds are blown down by queen mommy's fearful and desperate cries.

I'm not suggesting we must trust them. I'm not suggesting we provide our attention to them as they careen toward the cliff. I'm not suggesting that we can change them, save all of them from themselves, or alter their runaway trains' direction. No way, they are too damn insistent, too damn corrupted and too damn scared to try to adapt to lives of Liberty... I'm convinced. I'm suggesting we turn our backs and walk away from them and their destructive environment before we are struck down or cut-off, isolated by their random, fear-crazed, pot-shots. I'm suggesting we deny them everything possible that they demand while nurturing our own. I'm suggesting that there must be room made available at the Inn for those whom must leap from that train. I'm suggesting that we are each responsible.

Put your foot down hard. Put your foot to their asses. But don't become fools in their silly war games. Don't surrender your position to become the next victim. Think about it.

All rise and remain standing please.

Unconditional divorce, setting firm precedent. Denial of everything to them that is not nailed down. Wield the Constitution as a weapon and flog them daily over the head and neck area with it. Collaborate with and reach out to several someone elses' along your way... you will reach a view into yourselves from which many alternate, reasonable and fitting solutions will spring forth. Celebrate, because you have then erected a bridge that spans and binds chaos into peace and you have provided example for others nearby to discover and mimic. Celebrate, because you have provided immortality, with each creative, liberating deed, providing opportunity for the next Liberty. Celebrate, because you are exercising your native powers while starving out the beasts, not bowing to violent fits of hopeless rage.

We are infinity manifest on the long count. Outside in and inside out, we are not much unlike Pi, I could argue... though our ends never meet or will be solidly met. We know no distant boundaries but those so trivial that we ourselves have erected.

Confidence in taking a bold step forward is all that many of us lack today. Many others simply don't know what to do or what may work for them. A few are just waiting for someone to kick them in the pants. We all need to be down on the courtyards early and often, sure. But we need to do much more than direct our bastard puppets.

We possess the ultimate powers... a universal gift of will in accelerating awareness nano-states. Riding on expanding, neighboring waves of our own local creations we each carry the same urgent message. We are each co-active practitioners in closing this long count deal for humanity. We possess all the rights, we possess the powers to create everything we need and we own all the goddam Documents.

It's as fun as skinny-skiing a mountain or those few teenage trips on acid, too. Only took me 50 years to discover all this natural solution stuff via your' expanding my view, that I've begun to liberally seed them locally. Thanks to you people here, a few collaborative plots are thriving with plenty of my time available to seek opportunities to plant some more. Others nearby will certainly notice and we will welcome them.

All rise your will and sovereign powers. Prepare now for your future, don't fight them again on their terms and their turf, for chrissakes. Create a safety net at the Inn for our brothers and sisters and children. Their violence will find and entrap you all soon enough, so don't go about provoking it now.

Put their threats and wailing winds to your backs, it's a more effortless and productive ride then my friends. And when we die our seeds will continue to multiply. No tellin' what Liberty may become...

Should we all just rise to rational will this moment please. Do it your way, but do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First: "physician heal thyself"


Then:
People need to be educated massively. 99 percent of the people on my job think Alex Jones plays guard for the Globetrotters.
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