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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Pilotless Robot Bomber Squadron Heads for Afghanistan, Iraq Reply with quote

ah good ole CyberInterNetics. One day they'll have no use for Human Beings altogether, eh. Smile

PS

I think they know how well this system works. (cough)9-11(cough)

(1) Pilotless Robot Bomber Squadron Heads for Afghanistan, Iraq

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:43:56 -0700
From: Jeff Blankfort <jblankfort>

From David Peterson who writes: This ought to make that substantial
segment of the "anti-war" movement in the States and elsewhere happy
whose overriding concern is with U.S. casualties, rather than what the
U.S. military is doing to the "enemy."

Pilotless Robot Bomber Squadron Heads for Afghanistan, Iraq
Sunday , July 15, 2007

BALAD AIR BASE, Iraq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070715/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_air_surge_ii


The airplane is the size of a jet fighter, powered by a turboprop
engine, able to fly at 300 mph and reach 50,000 feet. It's outfitted
with infrared, laser and radar targeting, and with a ton and a half of
guided bombs and missiles.

The Reaper is loaded, but there's no one on board. Its pilot, as it
bombs targets in Iraq, will sit at a video console 7,000 miles away in
Nevada.



The arrival of these outsized U.S. "hunter-killer" drones, in aviation
history's first robot attack squadron, will be a watershed moment even
in an Iraq that has seen too many innovative ways to hunt and kill.

That moment, one the Air Force will likely low-key, is expected "soon,"
says the regional U.S. air commander. How soon? "We're still working
that," Lt. Gen. Gary North said in an interview.

The Reaper's first combat deployment is expected in Afghanistan, and
senior Air Force officers estimate it will land in Iraq sometime between
this fall and next spring. They look forward to it.

"With more Reapers, I could send manned airplanes home," North said.

The Associated Press has learned that the Air Force is building a
400,000-square-foot expansion of the concrete ramp area now used for
Predator drones here at Balad, the biggest U.S. air base in Iraq, 50
miles north of Baghdad. That new staging area could be turned over to
Reapers.

It's another sign that the Air Force is planning for an extended stay in
Iraq, supporting Iraqi government forces in any continuing conflict,
even if U.S. ground troops are drawn down in the coming years.

The estimated two dozen or more unmanned MQ-1 Predators now doing
surveillance over Iraq, as the 46th Expeditionary Reconnaissance
Squadron, have become mainstays of the U.S. war effort, offering
round-the-clock airborne "eyes" watching over road convoys, tracking
nighttime insurgent movements via infrared sensors, and occasionally
unleashing one of their two Hellfire missiles on a target.

From about 36,000 flying hours in 2005, the Predators are expected to
log 66,000 hours this year over Iraq and Afghanistan.

The MQ-9 Reaper, when compared with the 1995-vintage Predator,
represents a major evolution of the unmanned aerial vehicle, or UAV.

At five tons gross weight, the Reaper is four times heavier than the
Predator. Its size — 36 feet long, with a 66-foot wingspan — is
comparable to the profile of the Air Force's workhorse A-10 attack
plane. It can fly twice as fast and twice as high as the Predator. Most
significantly, it carries many more weapons.

While the Predator is armed with two Hellfire missiles, the Reaper can
carry 14 of the air-to-ground weapons — or four Hellfires and two
500-pound bombs.

"It's not a recon squadron," Col. Joe Guasella, operations chief for the
Central Command's air component, said of the Reapers. "It's an attack
squadron, with a lot more kinetic ability."

"Kinetic" — Pentagon argot for destructive power — is what the Air
Force had in mind when it christened its newest robot plane with a name
associated with death.

"The name Reaper captures the lethal nature of this new weapon system,"
Gen. T. Michael Moseley, Air Force chief of staff, said in announcing
the name last September.

General Atomics of San Diego has built at least nine of the MQ-9s thus
far, at a cost of $69 million per set of four aircraft, with ground
equipment.

The Air Force's 432nd Wing, a UAV unit formally established on May 1, is
to eventually fly 60 Reapers and 160 Predators. The numbers to be
assigned to Iraq and Afghanistan will be classified.

The Reaper is expected to be flown as the Predator is — by a
two-member team of pilot and sensor operator who work at computer
control stations and video screens that display what the UAV "sees."
Teams at Balad, housed in a hangar beside the runways, perform the
takeoffs and landings, and similar teams at Nevada's Creech Air Force
Base, linked to the aircraft via satellite, take over for the long hours
of overflying the Iraqi landscape.

American ground troops, equipped with laptops that can download
real-time video from UAVs overhead, "want more and more of it," said
Maj. Chris Snodgrass, the Predator squadron commander here.

The Reaper's speed will help. "Our problem is speed," Snodgrass said of
the 140-mph Predator. "If there are troops in contact, we may not get
there fast enough. The Reaper will be faster and fly farther."

The new robot plane is expected to be able to stay aloft for 14 hours
fully armed, watching an area and waiting for targets to emerge.

"It's going to bring us flexibility, range, speed and persistence," said
regional commander North, "such that I will be able to work lots of
areas for a long, long time."

The British also are impressed with the Reaper, and are buying three for
deployment in Afghanistan later this year. The Royal Air Force version
will stick to the "recon" mission, however no weapons on board.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're gonna cover the globe with these fucking things.

Total "security".

We were joking about them bombing Caribou Coffee the other day, while we were there having a political discussion. Not yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why they have launched Transformers movie - machines are becoming more and more humanoid...

Audience has to be prepared in advance.

Frogs are cooked on small fire.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dilbert_g wrote:
They're gonna cover the globe with these fucking things.

Total "security".

We were joking about them bombing Caribou Coffee the other day, while we were there having a political discussion. Not yet.


Total Security as in TOTALitarian. Smile

I was thinking that perhaps the 911 discussion on the twin towers built for demolition audio where Fintan thinks the planes were remote control and Chris Brown thought there were pilots, that this remote control mentioned in this article is more to what happened. Remote control yet not on auto pilot ????

What do you think dilbert_g?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have used pilots with back up remotes. That's just me though. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bri wrote:
I would have used pilots with back up remotes. That's just me though. Razz


That certainly would be the smart thing to do rather than leave something like this to chance. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I was thinking that perhaps the 911 discussion on the twin towers built for demolition audio where Fintan thinks the planes were remote control and Chris Brown thought there were pilots, that this remote control mentioned in this article is more to what happened. Remote control yet not on auto pilot ????


That was the very first thing i thought when i read this article.

Now killers can be even more removed from their killing.

The utter evil emptiness of this is mind and soul boggling.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The REAPER"?

Even the names assigned to these weapons of mass murder bely the real intentions and attitudes of a government that speaks of 'Spreading Democracy" and "Liberating those people".

Why not just name it "the Psychopath", "the Serial Killer", or "the Power Reapist".?

US MILITARY UNIT PATCH

RQ-1 "Predator"




SPREADING DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM

"Give me your huddled masses.........."

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we are willing to support individual sovereignty which protects and encourages mutually assured respect and dignity then we all win.

Evil is the desire to control others.

We need cooperation not corporation.

Individual Sovereignty is stronger than weapons.

Don't let them embed you with a chip. It's got a 'kill switch'.

As long as we stay sentient sovereigns we shall prevail.

Stay Sentient - Stay Sovereign
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ormond wrote:
Why not just name it "the Psychopath", "the Serial Killer", or "the Power Reapist".?


Or 'The Genocider' ... 'The Holocaust Bringer' ...

Yeah bornfree.. just stay sovereign no matter what.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

War crimes would be smooth like butter in this guise of a computer game. No remorse, regret or meeting of eyes. This is truly a sad thing to see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bri wrote:
War crimes would be smooth like butter in this guise of a computer game. No remorse, regret or meeting of eyes. This is truly a sad thing to see.


.. Aim...Shoot...Score !
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