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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shitty Halloween this year kids.





Is global warming going the way of global cooling?

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/green/detail?entry_id=49466&tsp=1#ixzz0U4dW50EE


Global Warming? The “Deniers” are my Heroes


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Unstoppable Solar Cycles

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: danger danger Reply with quote

the push is on for Copenhagen and may be worse than you think

http://www.350.org/


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24 October 2009
INTERNATIONAL DAY OF CLIMATE ACTION


What does the number 350 mean?

350 is the most important number in the world—it's what scientists say is the safe upper limit for carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.


Two years ago, after leading climatologists observed rapid ice melt in the Arctic and other frightening signs of climate change, they issued a series of studies showing that the planet faced both human and natural disaster if atmospheric concentrations of CO2 remained above 350 parts per million.

Everyone from Al Gore to the U.N.’s top climate scientist has now embraced this goal as necessary for stabilizing the planet and preventing complete disaster. Now the trick is getting our leaders to pay attention and craft policies that will put the world on track to get to 350.

Is 350 scientifically possible?

Right now, mostly because we’ve burned so much fossil fuel, the atmospheric concentration of co2 is 390 ppm—that’s way too high, and it’s why ice is melting, drought is spreading, forests are dying. To bring that number down, the first task is to stop putting more carbon into the atmosphere. That means a very fast transition to sun and wind and other renewable forms of power. If we can stop pouring more carbon into the atmosphere, then forests and oceans will slowly suck some of it out of the air and return us to safe levels.

Is 350 politically possible?


It’s very hard. It means switching off fossil fuel much more quickly than governments and corporations have been planning. Our best chance to speed up that process will come in December in Copenhagen, when the world’s nations meet to agree on a new climate treaty. Right now, they’re not planning to do enough. But we can change that—if we mobilize the world to swift and bold climate action, which is what we're planning to do on October 24th.


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"In December of 2009, this meeting will be in Copenhagen, Denmark. There, delegates, non-governmental organizations, and businesses from every nation will meet to finalize a new global climate change agreement.

It is crucial that decision-makers at this meeting understand and are held accountable to crafting policy that is informed by the most recent science.

Just over a year old, 350 is a relatively new target being discussed in the scientific community, compared to 450ppm or 2 degrees Celsius that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change supports. Currently many policy-makers, institutions, and NGOs are still supporting targets that are out of date and greatly increase the risk of catastrophic climatic changes.

Yet at the last UN climate negotiations in Poland at the end of 2008, the 350 target began to attract more endorsers as new scientific reports and evidence of early impacts made it clear that we are already above the safe level for CO2. In his annual speech, Nobel laureate Al Gore told delegates to the most recent climate negotiating session that we must now ‘toughen our goal’ to 350ppm.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Strong words, yet Lord Monckton worked "as policy adviser to Thatcher".
What's his deal?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama may sign the Copenhagen Treaty but....

according to what's left of the Constitution


He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

Did the USA "sign" the Kyoto protocol? Well, the "Clinton administration" did sign it. It was actually signed by Al Gore. So the USA is in fact a "signatory". But. Did Clinton ever submit it to the Senate? No. Because he knew they would not confirm it. . From wikipedia

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the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95–0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98 ), which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing nations as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States".

So Obama can sign the treaty but "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing" (of 2/3 of the senate) I don't see any repugs voting that way

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bri:
Strong words, yet Lord Monckton worked "as policy adviser to Thatcher".
What's his deal?

Well Thatcher and Reagan were true blue anti-Statists.
In principle at least.

Though Thatcher never actually managed to shrink the State in practice.

And Reagan would be turning in his grave at the antics of the
Repugnicans --let alone the Dems. Both parties have expanded
the role of the State and so Monkton would be opposed to them.

By the way....

The powerpoint presentation for Monkton's speech is here [17.5 MB]

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: USA Sets 4500 New Snowfall, Low Temp Records Reply with quote

Remember to Wrap Up Warm, Won'cha.
Don't Want You To Catch a Bad Cold.


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Over 4500 New Snowfall, Low Temp,
And Lowest Max Temp Records
Set In The USA This Last Week


The Record Events map depicts the official National Weather Service
records recorded for the defined date(s) or time period, which includes
record high and low temperatures, record high minimum temperatures,
record low maximum temperatures, record daily rainfall and record daily
snowfall. Source: Hamweather Climate Center and NOAA/NWS

Record Events for Sat Oct 10, 2009 through Fri Oct 16, 2009

Total Records: 6257

Rainfall: 859
Snowfall: 297
High Temperatures: 369
Low Temperatures: 785
Lowest Max Temperatures: 3473
Highest Min Temperatures: 474

While there are way too many lowest maximum temperature records set
to list here, the record lows and the snowfall records are listed below.
US Low Temperature Records 10-10 thru 10-18 2009

State Location Date New Record (°F) Previous Record (°F)

WY Yellowstone Pk Mammoth Mon, 12 Oct 2009 5 12 in 1986
WY Worland Faa Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 21 in 1993
WY Worland Faa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1977
WY Thermopolis Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1949
WY Tensleep, 4 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 20 in 1977
WY Tensleep, 4 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 17 in 1986
WY Ten Sleep, 16 miles SSE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9 11 in 1987
WY Ten Sleep, 16 miles SSE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 16 in 1985
WY Shirley Basin Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8 10 in 1986
WY Shirley Basin Sun, 11 Oct 2009 6 10 in 1987
WY Sheridan Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 15 in 1993
WY Sheridan Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 18 in 1986
WY Rock Springs Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 21 in 1987
WY Riverton Sat, 10 Oct 2009 6 13 in 1932
WY Rawlins Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 15 in 1987
WY Pavillion Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 21 in 1977
WY Pavillion Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10 16 in 1969
WY Newcastle Sat, 10 Oct 2009 8 13 in 1970
WY Midwest Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 16 in 1986
WY Midwest Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 17 in 1986
WY Midwest Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 18 in 1982
WY Medicine Bow Sun, 11 Oct 2009 7 9 in 1987
WY Laramie Rgnl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 7 12 in 1977
WY Lander Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 18 in 1969
WY Jeffrey City Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8 9 in 1987
WY Glenrock, 5 miles ESE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 18 in 1969
WY Glenrock, 5 miles ESE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13 19 in 1982
WY Gillette Campbell County Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 19 in 2006
WY Gillette, 4 miles SE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 17 in 1958
WY Gillette, 4 miles SE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 17 in 2006
WY Gillette, 4 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1959
WY Douglas, 1 miles SE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1917
WY Douglas, 1 miles SE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 13 in 1919
WY Deaver Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 15 in 1969
WY Crandall Creek Sun, 11 Oct 2009 6 11 in 1977
WY Crandall Creek Mon, 12 Oct 2009 6 6 in 1969
WY Cody Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11 18 in 1928
WY Cody Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1928
WY Cody Sat, 10 Oct 2009 6 8 in 1919
WY Clark, 3 miles NE of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14 15 in 1969
WY Chugwater Sat, 10 Oct 2009 8 12 in 1958
WY Centennial, 1 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 12 in 1982
WY Casper Wscmo Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 14 in 1982
WY Casper Wscmo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 18 in 1969
WY Buffalo Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1969
WY Buffalo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11 16 in 1922
WY Buffalo Sat, 10 Oct 2009 8 9 in 1919
WY Buffalo Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 15 in 1922
WY Boysen Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1986
WY Boysen Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1969
WY Boysen Dam Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 22 in 1985
WY Bitter Creek, 4 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 16 in 1987
WY Billy Creek Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10 16 in 1969
WY Billy Creek Sun, 11 Oct 2009 8 15 in 1986
WI West Allis Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 29 in 1987
WI Waukesha Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 23 in 1909
WI Watertown Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1908
WI Two Rivers Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2006
WI Rhinelander Oneida County Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1987
WI Port Washington Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1988
WI Oconomowoc Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1988
WI Milwaukee Mt Mary Col Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1967
WI Milwaukee Mt Mary Col Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1964
WI Lone Rock Tri Co Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 24 in 1964
WI Lone Rock Tri Cnty Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1987
WI Lancaster, 4 miles WSW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1906
WI Lancaster, 4 miles WSW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1906
WI Ladysmith, 3 miles W of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1978
WI Ladysmith, 3 miles W of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1965
WI Kenosha Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 30 in 2006
WI Kenosha Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1964
WI Horicon Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1990
WI Dodgeville Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1988
WI Beaver Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1967
WI Beaver Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1964
WI Arlington Univ Farm Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1987
WI Arlington Univ Farm Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1991
WI Arlington Univ Farm Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 24 in 1988
WA Yakima Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 27 in 2003
WA Yakima Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 24 in 1990
WA Winthrop, 1 miles WSW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1980
WA Winthrop, 1 miles WSW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 20 in 1930
WA Whitman Mission Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 24 in 1987
WA Whitman Mission Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 19 in 2008
WA Wenatchee Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1977
WA Wenatchee Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1997
WA Wenatchee Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 30 in 1931
WA Wenatchee Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 28 in 1931
WA Wapato Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 29 in 1990
WA Wapato Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 28 in 1983
WA Walla Walla Faa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 33 in 2008
WA Walla Walla Faa Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 32 33 in 2008
WA Upper Baker Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 30 in 1972
WA Upper Baker Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 30 in 2008
WA Upper Baker Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 26 33 in 1969
WA Sunnyside Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1924
WA Stampede Pass Tue, 13 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1969
WA Stampede Pass Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 30 in 2002
WA Stampede Pass Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1977
WA Spokane Intl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 24 in 2002
WA Spokane Intl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 25 in 1977
WA Spokane Felts Field Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 25 in 1990
WA Spokane Felts Field Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1977
WA Spokane Felts Field Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 25 in 2008
WA Seattle Boeing Field Sun, 11 Oct 2009 35 35 in 2008
WA Ross Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 33 35 in 2008
WA Ross Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 33 35 in 1966
WA Ross Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 35 in 2008
WA Ritzville, 1 miles SSE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1924
WA Ritzville, 1 miles SSE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 24 in 1990
WA Ritzville, 1 miles SSE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 23 in 1985
WA Richland Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 33 in 1987
WA Quincy, 1 miles S of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 26 in 1954
WA Pullman Moscow Regional Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 18 in 2008
WA Priest Rapids Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 32 35 in 1987
WA Priest Rapids Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 34 in 1960
WA Priest Rapids Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1969
WA Pomeroy Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 22 in 1946
WA Omak, 4 miles N of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 20 in 1977
WA Olympia Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2008
WA Newhalem Tue, 13 Oct 2009 36 37 in 2002
WA Newhalem Mon, 12 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1997
WA Mt Adams Rs Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 22 in 2002
WA Moxee City, 10 miles E of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 28 in 2002
WA Moses Lake Grant County Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 26 in 2008
WA Moses Lake Grant County Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 27 in 2006
WA Monroe Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1930
WA Monroe Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 32 in 2002
WA Mazama Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 19 in 1969
WA Lacrosse Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 17 in 1946
WA Kennewick Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1931
WA Holden Village Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 21 in 2002
WA Goldendale Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 24 in 2002
WA Ephrata Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 30 in 2008
WA Ephrata Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 29 in 2006
WA Ephrata Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 26 in 1990
WA Diablo Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 28 30 in 1930
WA Diablo Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 31 in 2008
WA Dayton, 1 miles WSW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 22 in 1899
WA Davenport Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1924
WA Davenport Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 15 in 1990
WA Dallesport Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1990
WA Coulee Dam, 1 miles SW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 31 in 1977
WA Coulee Dam, 1 miles SW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 27 in 2002
WA Colville Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 18 in 1919
WA Colville Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 21 in 1907
WA Colville Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 20 in 2002
WA Cle Elum Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1930
WA Chief Joseph Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 26 in 2002
WA Chief Joseph Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20 27 in 2002
WA Chelan Tue, 13 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1981
WA Bickleton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 28 in 2002
WA Bellingham Intl Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 32 in 2002
WA Bellingham Fcwos Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 32 in 1972
WA Baring Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1972
VT Newport Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1978
VT Newport Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20 24 in 1972
UT Panguitch Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1990
TX Wellington Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 40 in 1979
TX Turkey Sat, 10 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1994
TX Turkey Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1994
TX Turkey Mon, 12 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1986
TX Tulia Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 33 in 1990
TX Tahoka Mon, 12 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1986
TX Tahoka Sun, 11 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1990
TX Stratford Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 28 in 2005
TX Stratford Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 30 in 1982
TX Silverton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 31 32 in 1986
TX Silverton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 34 in 1993
TX Post Mon, 12 Oct 2009 36 37 in 1986
TX Post Sun, 11 Oct 2009 36 37 in 1970
TX Plainview Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 35 in 1990
TX Panhandle Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1986
TX Pampa 2 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 30 in 1986
TX Paducah Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 36 in 1990
TX Paducah Mon, 12 Oct 2009 31 37 in 1977
TX Olton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1986
TX Muleshoe #1 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 34 in 1982
TX Memphis Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 35 in 1952
TX Matador Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 40 in 1970
TX Matador Mon, 12 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1977
TX Lubbock Intl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 38 in 1932
TX Lubbock Intl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 37 38 in 1993
TX Lipscomb Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1993
TX Hereford Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1907
TX Guthrie Mon, 12 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1977
TX Guthrie Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1990
TX Gruver Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 33 in 1982
TX Gruver Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1977
TX Gail Sun, 11 Oct 2009 38 38 in 1994
TX Follett Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 31 in 1986
TX Floydada Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 36 in 1970
TX Floydada Mon, 12 Oct 2009 31 32 in 1977
TX Dumas Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20 24 in 1952
TX Dimmitt, 2 miles N of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 31 in 1986
TX Dimmitt, 2 miles N of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1982
TX Dalhart Faa Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 30 in 1990
TX Dalhart Faa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1982
TX Crosbyton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 35 in 1990
TX Clarendon Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1994
TX Childress Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 36 41 in 2000
TX Brownfield #2 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 35 37 in 2000
TX Brownfield #2 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1986
TX Bravo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1990
TX Borger Sat, 10 Oct 2009 29 35 in 1993
TX Borger Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 32 in 1982
TX Andrews Sun, 11 Oct 2009 40 40 in 2000
TX Amarillo Wso Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 33 in 2005
TX Amarillo Wso Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 34 in 1993
SD Yankton, 2 miles E of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1987
SD White Lake Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 24 in 1959
SD White Lake Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1987
SD Wessington Springs Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1987
SD Wessington Springs Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 23 in 1987
SD Webster Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1987
SD Watertown Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1959
SD Vermillion, 2 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1987
SD Timber Lake Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 18 in 1935
SD Stephan, 2 miles NW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11 18 in 1908
SD Spearfish Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 22 in 1933
SD Roscoe Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1959
SD Roscoe Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 20 in 2006
SD Redfield Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 21 in 2006
SD Rapid City Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 18 in 1987
SD Rapid City Rgnl Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 18 in 2006
SD Rapid City, 4 miles NW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 18 in 1993
SD Porcupine, 11 miles N of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 9 16 in 1990
SD Pierre Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1946
SD Pickstown Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 27 in 2006
SD Oral Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1986
SD Oelrichs Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11 17 in 1948
SD Oelrichs Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16 19 in 2006
SD Newell Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 22 in 1986
SD Newell Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16 16 in 1986
SD Murdo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 21 in 1959
SD Mt Rushmore Natl Mem Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10 15 in 1986
SD Mitchell Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 28 in 2006
SD Mission Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 22 in 2006
SD Mission Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 24 in 1990
SD Mission Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1970
SD Milesville, 5 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1987
SD Milesville, 5 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18 19 in 1987
SD Menno Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1987
SD Mc Intosh, 6 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1959
SD Maurine, 12 miles SW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13 17 in 1985
SD Maurine, 12 miles SW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 20 in 1987
SD Martin Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1993
SD Ludlow, 3 miles SSE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1959
SD Lead Sat, 10 Oct 2009 7 10 in 1919
SD Lead Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11 15 in 1909
SD Interior, 3 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1959
SD Huron Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1935
SD Hot Springs Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 15 in 1909
SD Hot Springs Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 20 in 1899
SD Gregory Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1959
SD Gettysburg Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 16 in 1946
SD Ft Meade Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 22 in 1985
SD Forestburg, 3 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1987
SD Edgemont Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 18 in 1980
SD Edgemont Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1986
SD Edgemont Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23 23 in 2006
SD Edgemont Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1993
SD Cottonwood, 2 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9 14 in 1987
SD Clear Lake Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2006
SD Clear Lake Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 20 in 1970
SD Clear Lake Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1959
SD Clark Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 16 in 1935
SD Cedar Butte, 1 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 25 in 1921
SD Cedar Butte, 1 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 22 in 1959
SD Academy, 2 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 23 in 1908
PA Johnstown Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1987
PA Erie Wso Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 34 36 in 1977
OR Roseburg Regional Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 36 37 in 1991
OR Redmond Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2006
OR Prineville Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1985
OR Pendleton E Or Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 25 in 2008
OR Pendleton Dwtn Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 22 in 2008
OR Pendleton Dwtn Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 21 in 2008
OR Owyhee Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 25 in 2002
OR Moro Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 28 in 1990
OR Meacham Wso Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 15 in 2008
OR Lacomb, 3 miles NNE of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 30 30 in 2002
OR Joseph Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 21 in 1946
OR Joseph Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1899
OR Hood Rvr Exp Stn Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 29 in 2008
OR Hood Rvr Exp Stn Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 28 in 1990
OR Hermiston, 1 miles SE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1931
OR Halfway Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 18 in 2001
OR Halfway Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1990
OR Grizzly Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 17 in 2002
OR Eugene Mahlon Sweet Fl Mon, 12 Oct 2009 30 32 in 2008
OR Drain Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 28 in 2008
OR Drain Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1990
OR Corvallis Water Bureau Sat, 10 Oct 2009 31 31 in 1985
OR Corvallis Water Bureau Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 34 in 2002
OR Bonneville Dam Wed, 14 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1970
OK Ponca City Muni Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1979
OK Mutual Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1993
OK Hooker Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1919
OK Goodwell Rsch Stn Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1977
OK Goodwell Rsch Stn Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 30 in 1919
OK Gage Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1993
OK Boise City, 2 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1982
OK Blanchard, 2 miles SSW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 39 41 in 1994
OK Beaver Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1948
OK Beaver Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1977
NY Watertown Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 25 in 1994
NY Rochester Intl Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1981
NY Rochester Intl Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1996
NY Niagara Falls Intl Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 32 in 1994
NY New York La Guardia Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 39 42 in 1977
NY New York La Guardia Ap Fri, 16 Oct 2009 39 43 in 1978
NY Geneva Rsch Farm Thu, 15 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1993
NY Geneva Rsch Farm Fri, 16 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1996
NY Elmira Corning Regional Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1994
NY Conklingville Dam Thu, 15 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2002
NY Aurora Rsch Farm Thu, 15 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1996
NY Auburn Thu, 15 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1939
NM Tucumcari Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1990
NM Tucumcari Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 32 in 1946
NM Tucumcari Faa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 34 in 2005
NM Tucumcari, 4 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 30 in 1986
NM Tucumcari, 4 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1970
NM Santa Fe County Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 31 32 in 1949
NM San Jon Sat, 10 Oct 2009 31 32 in 1982
NM Melrose Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 33 in 1977
NM Clayton Muni Arpk Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1946
NM Clayton Muni Arpk Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 29 in 1919
NH Pinkham Notch Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1978
NE Wallace, 2 miles W of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1967
NE Wallace, 2 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 24 in 1980
NE Valentine Miller Fld A Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 23 in 1958
NE Valentine Miller Fld A Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 23 in 2006
NE Trenton Dam Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 25 in 1970
NE Superior, 4 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 28 in 1905
NE Sidney Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1948
NE Sidney, 3 miles S of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1948
NE Seward Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1916
NE Scottsbluff Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 16 in 1919
NE Osceola Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1990
NE O Neill Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 25 in 1921
NE North Platte Rgnl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1958
NE North Platte Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1987
NE North Platte Exp Farm Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 23 in 2000
NE North Platte Exp Farm Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 22 in 1987
NE North Platte Exp Farm Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1986
NE Merriman Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 17 in 1959
NE Mccook Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 28 in 1990
NE Mc Cook Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 25 in 1919
NE Madrid Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1906
NE Loup City Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 23 in 1987
NE Lodgepole Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 18 in 1987
NE Kingsley Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 23 in 1986
NE Kimball, 2 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12 17 in 1932
NE Kimball, 2 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1969
NE Kimball, 2 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 19 in 1987
NE Kearney, 4 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1987
NE Imperial Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19 25 in 1967
NE Imperial Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1969
NE Holdrege Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1946
NE Hershey, 5 miles SSE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 19 in 2000
NE Hemingford Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 18 in 1986
NE Hayes Ctr Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 23 in 1987
NE Hayes Ctr Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18 23 in 1935
NE Hastings Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1993
NE Hastings, 4 miles N of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1919
NE Hartington Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 24 in 1919
NE Harrison Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 12 in 1932
NE Harrison Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10 10 in 1946
NE Harrisburg, 12 miles WNW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 13 in 1970
NE Harrisburg, 12 miles WNW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9 13 in 1987
NE Haigler Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 27 in 2006
NE Greeley Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 23 in 2000
NE David City Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 23 in 1987
NE David City Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 23 in 1906
NE Dalton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1969
NE Dalton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 18 in 1987
NE Chambers Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1987
NE Chadron, 3 miles SW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10 15 in 1932
NE Chadron, 3 miles SW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10 14 in 1948
NE Canaday Steam Plt Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21 23 in 2000
NE Canaday Steam Plt Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1987
NE Broken Bow Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 26 in 1996
NE Bridgeport Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 17 in 1905
NE Big Springs Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 18 in 1948
NE Benkelman Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1987
NE Benkelman Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 27 in 1970
NE Arthur Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 17 in 1987
NE Arthur Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1958
NE Alliance, 1 miles WNW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1958
NE Agate, 3 miles E of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12 15 in 2000
ND Watford City, 14 miles S of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 19 in 1986
ND Underwood Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1959
ND Pretty Rock Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1987
ND Minot Intl Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1979
ND Jamestown Muni Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1979
ND Fargo Hector Intl Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1993
ND Fargo Hector Intl Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17 17 in 1979
ND Dickinson Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 20 in 2006
ND Carrington, 4 miles N of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20 23 in 1983
ND Bowman Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 17 in 1977
MT Wisdom Mon, 12 Oct 2009 2 4 in 2002
MT Wisdom Sun, 11 Oct 2009 2 2 in 1987
MT Valier Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 13 in 1972
MT Valentine Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 21 in 2002
MT Valentine Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 17 in 1987
MT Thompson Falls Ph Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18 22 in 1987
MT Superior Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 15 in 1919
MT Sula, 3 miles ENE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9 12 in 2002
MT Ryegate, 18 miles NNW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10 17 in 1986
MT Roundup Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1986
MT Roundup Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 18 in 1959
MT Rapelje, 4 miles S of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1969
MT Rapelje, 4 miles S of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10 14 in 1969
MT Powderville, 8 miles NNE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1980
MT Port Of Morgan Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11 12 in 2002
MT Opheim, 10 miles N of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 6 12 in 1965
MT Moorhead, 9 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 17 in 2006
MT Missoula, 2 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 21 in 1990
MT Martinsdale, 3 miles NNW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 16 in 1986
MT Martinsdale, 3 miles NNW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 13 in 1986
MT Malmstrom Afb Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12 18 in 1977
MT Malmstrom Afb Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 18 in 2008
MT Lewistown Fcwos Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 18 in 1969
MT Lewistown Fcwos Sat, 10 Oct 2009 5 12 in 1987
MT Joliet Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1986
MT Joliet Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1986
MT Jackson Sun, 11 Oct 2009 5 10 in 1990
MT Hysham Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 20 in 1977
MT Hysham Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1985
MT Hysham Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12 18 in 1986
MT Huntley Exp Stn Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11 16 in 1986
MT Huntley Exp Stn Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1986
MT Huntley Exp Stn Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1949
MT Hungry Horse Dam Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12 12 in 2002
MT Hungry Horse Dam Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18 23 in 1969
MT Hungry Horse Dam Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 18 in 1985
MT Hungry Horse Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12 14 in 2002
MT Heron, 2 miles NW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 17 in 1924
MT Heron, 2 miles NW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 17 in 1919
MT Heron, 2 miles NW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 19 in 2002
MT Helena Ap Asos Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1990
MT Helena Ap Asos Sat, 10 Oct 2009 9 15 in 1987
MT Havre City Co Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1977
MT Havre City Co Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1972
MT Hardin Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1969
MT Hardin Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1986
MT Hamilton Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1987
MT Hamilton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9 12 in 1895
MT Hamilton Tue, 13 Oct 2009 9 11 in 1895
MT Hamilton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1987
MT Great Falls Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 16 in 2002
MT Great Falls 16st Sat, 10 Oct 2009 7 14 in 1919
MT Grass Range Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 20 in 1986
MT Grass Range Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 16 in 1959
MT Gardiner Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1969
MT Ft Benton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17 20 in 1986
MT Ft Benton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1990
MT Flatwillow, 4 miles ENE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 13 in 1919
MT Ennis Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 17 in 1987
MT Ennis Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8 13 in 1986
MT Ennis Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11 14 in 1919
MT Ekalaka Sun, 11 Oct 2009 9 15 in 1977
MT Divide Mon, 12 Oct 2009 7 10 in 2008
MT Dillon Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 8 15 in 1987
MT Dillon Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12 14 in 2008
MT Dillon Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 17 in 1986
MT Del Bonita Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8 8 in 2002
MT Del Bonita Sat, 10 Oct 2009 6 7 in 1977
MT Cut Bank Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 3 10 in 1977
MT Culbertson Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 15 in 1965
MT Culbertson Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1959
MT Cooke City, 2 miles W of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 5 5 in 1969
MT Cooke City, 2 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 6 6 in 1985
MT Columbus Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 21 in 1969
MT Columbus Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 19 in 1987
MT Columbus Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12 12 in 1993
MT Choteau Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 17 in 1931
MT Chinook Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 15 in 1919
MT Butte Bert Mooney Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11 14 in 1987
MT Butte Bert Mooney Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 6 10 in 2008
MT Broadus Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1948
MT Bridger, 2 miles N of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1986
MT Bridger, 2 miles N of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17 17 in 1969
MT Bridger, 2 miles N of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12 19 in 1959
MT Bredette Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 15 in 2006
MT Bozeman Montana St U Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11 18 in 1969
MT Bozeman Gallatin Fld Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 15 in 1987
MT Bozeman 6 W Exp Farm Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13 18 in 1969
MT Billings Wtp Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 20 in 1909
MT Billings Wtp Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1986
MT Billings Intl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1987
MT Biddle, 8 miles SW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1980
MO Kirksville Regional Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1964
MN Worthington, 2 miles NNE of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2006
MN Wheaton Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22 24 in 1914
MN Pipestone Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1987
MN Owatonna Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 23 in 2006
MN Owatonna Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23 23 in 2006
MN Owatonna Wed, 14 Oct 2009 25 26 in 2006
MN Ottertail Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23 25 in 1979
MN Ottertail Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1987
MN Ottertail Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1970
MN Melrose Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1961
MN Melrose Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1987
MN Melrose Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1992
MN Long Prairie Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1946
MN Long Prairie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1917
MN Long Prairie Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18 19 in 1898
MN Litchfield Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 21 in 1980
MN Litchfield Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21 25 in 1986
MN Litchfield Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1909
MN Litchfield Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 23 in 1987
MN Isle, 12 miles N of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20 24 in 1978
MN Hibbing Faa Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1978
MN Hibbing Faa Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13 15 in 1993
MN Gull Lake Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1987
MN Gull Lake Dam Wed, 14 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1918
MN Grand Meadow Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1987
MN Gaylord Wed, 14 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1986
MN Gaylord Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1987
MN Gaylord Tue, 13 Oct 2009 24 24 in 2006
MN Forest Lake, 5 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 23 in 1987
MN Forest Lake, 5 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1996
MN Forest Lake, 5 miles NE of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23 28 in 1961
MN Duluth Intl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2006
MN Cloquet Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1937
MN Cass Lake Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1988
MN Buffalo Wed, 14 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1970
MN Buffalo Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1985
MN Browns Valley Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18 22 in 1986
MN Browns Valley Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 26 in 2006
MN Browns Valley Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1983
MN Brainerd Crow Wing Co Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23 23 in 1988
MN Brainerd Crow Wing Co Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 26 in 1979
MN Brainerd Crow Wing Co Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 26 in 2006
MN Brainerd Crow Wing Co Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 24 26 in 2006
MN Brainerd Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1979
MN Brainerd Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1987
MN Austin, 3 miles S of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 23 in 2006
MN Austin, 3 miles S of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1987
MN Alexandria Chandler Fl Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 24 in 1985
MN Alexandria Chandler Fl Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1986
MI Watersmeet, 5 miles W of Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15 22 in 1978
MI Watersmeet, 5 miles W of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1945
MI Watersmeet, 5 miles W of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 19 in 1993
MI Tahquamenon Falls Sp Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1978
MI Stambaugh, 2 miles SSE of Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1944
MI St Ignace Mackinac Br Thu, 15 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1978
MI St Ignace Mackinac Br Wed, 14 Oct 2009 29 30 in 2002
MI Sandusky Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1958
MI Pellston Rgnl Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20 20 in 2002
MI Ontonagon, 6 miles SE of Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23 25 in 1997
MI Ontonagon, 6 miles SE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 25 25 in 2006
MI Munising Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1967
MI Munising Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1964
MI Midland Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1996
MI Marquette Wso Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20 21 in 2002
MI Maple City, 1 miles E of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 29 in 2006
MI Manistique Wwtp Thu, 15 Oct 2009 25 26 in 1939
MI Howell Wwtp Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1906
MI Houghton Faa Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1993
MI Houghton Faa Ap Fri, 16 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1952
MI Houghton Faa Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 25 27 in 2006
MI Houghton Faa Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2002
MI Hesperia, 4 miles WNW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1996
MI Grosse Pointe Farms Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 29 in 1964
MI Grosse Pointe Farms Mon, 12 Oct 2009 31 31 in 1988
MI Detour Village Wed, 14 Oct 2009 30 30 in 2002
MI Alberta Ford For Ctr Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1978
ME Rumford, 1 miles SSE of Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1979
ME Rumford, 1 miles SSE of Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1950
ME Millinocket Faa Ap Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22 24 in 1980
ME Long Falls Dam Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1994
ME Long Falls Dam Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18 21 in 1979
ME Houlton Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19 21 in 1959
ME Ft Kent Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 19 in 2000
ME Dover-foxcroft Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21 21 in 1980
ME Caribou Wfo Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21 24 in 1996
ME Caribou Wfo Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1980
ME Brunswick Fri, 16 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1978
ME Brassua Dam Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1978
ME Brassua Dam Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20 21 in 2000
MA Vineyard Haven Marthas Vineyar Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 33 in 2000
MA Taunton Municipal Ap Wed, 14 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2006
MA Taunton Municipal Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 30 in 2000
MA Taunton Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 33 in 2000
MA Pittsfield Wb Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 25 28 in 2006
MA Nantucket Faa Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 35 38 in 1961
MA Hyannis Barnstable Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 35 36 in 1980
MA Buffumville Lake Thu, 15 Oct 2009 27 27 in 2002
LA De Ridder Sun, 11 Oct 2009 40 41 in 1989
KS Wilson Lake Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 33 in 1967
KS Wilson Lake Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 31 in 1977
KS Wichita Mid-continent Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 36 in 1993
KS Washington Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 31 in 2000
KS Wamego, 4 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 31 in 1987
KS Wakeeney Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 28 in 1919
KS Wakeeney Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 27 in 1919
KS Ulysses, 3 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 28 in 2000
KS Ulysses, 3 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1896
KS Ulysses, 3 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1977
KS Tribune, 1 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 23 in 1948
KS Tribune, 1 miles W of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21 23 in 2000
KS Topeka Forbes Field Sat, 10 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1993
KS Sublette Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1919
KS Sterling Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21 27 in 1969
KS Sterling Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1977
KS Sterling Sat, 10 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1990
KS Sterling Mon, 12 Oct 2009 31 31 in 1977
KS Smith Ctr Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 28 in 1987
KS Smith Ctr Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 27 in 1958
KS Sharon Springs Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 25 in 1977
KS Salina Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1993
KS Russell, 1 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 33 in 1982
KS Russell, 1 miles E of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 29 in 1967
KS Richfield, 1 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 28 30 in 1990
KS Richfield, 1 miles NE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 28 in 1919
KS Richfield, 1 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1917
KS Plainville, 4 miles WNW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 26 in 1948
KS Plainville, 4 miles WNW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 27 in 2000
KS Olathe Johnson Co Industrial A Sat, 10 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1993
KS Oakley, 4 miles W of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 24 in 2000
KS Oakley, 4 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 26 in 1948
KS Oakley, 4 miles W of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1977
KS Norton Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 28 in 1982
KS Minneapolis Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1919
KS Mc Donald Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 23 in 2000
KS Mc Donald Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 23 in 1987
KS Liberal Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 29 in 2001
KS Liberal Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 32 in 1982
KS Leoti, 1 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1948
KS Kingman Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 33 in 1982
KS Kingman Tue, 13 Oct 2009 34 34 in 2002
KS Kanopolis Lake Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1967
KS Hutchinson Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1994
KS Hugoton Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 27 in 1913
KS Hoxie Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 26 in 2000
KS Hoxie Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1987
KS Holton, 7 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1987
KS Hill City Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 29 in 1993
KS Hill City, 1 miles NE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 28 in 1935
KS Healy Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 27 in 1990
KS Goodland Renner Fld Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 25 in 1958
KS Garden City Regional Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 30 in 1990
KS Garden City Exp Stn Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 29 in 1990
KS Garden City, 9 miles ESE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 30 in 1990
KS Eskridge Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 31 in 1932
KS Emporia Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1977
KS Emporia Faa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1977
KS Elkhart Mon, 12 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1917
KS Elkhart Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 26 in 1905
KS Dodge City Rgnl Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1948
KS Dodge City Rgnl Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 30 in 1993
KS Concordia Blosser Muni Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 30 in 1993
KS Concordia Blosser Muni Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1977
KS Colby, 1 miles SW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20 25 in 2000
KS Clay Ctr Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1919
KS Beloit Sat, 10 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1990
KS Beloit Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22 29 in 1917
IN Terre Haute Caa Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1996
IL Wheaton, 3 miles SE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 26 27 in 1996
IL Rockford Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 26 in 1987
IL Rochelle Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 26 in 1987
IL Paw Paw, 2 miles NW of Thu, 15 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1997
IL Paris Wtr Wks Sun, 11 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1964
IL Joliet Brandon Rd Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 31 31 in 2000
IL Freeport Waste Wtp Sat, 10 Oct 2009 27 27 in 2000
IL De Kalb Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1993
IL Chicago Midway Ap, 3 miles SW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1964
IL Chicago Midway Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1964
IL Chicago Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1996
ID Winchester Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14 20 in 2002
ID Saint Maries, 1 miles W of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17 23 in 1978
ID Saint Maries, 1 miles W of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16 22 in 2008
ID Saint Maries, 1 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1912
ID Riggins Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 30 in 2008
ID Riggins Mon, 12 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1915
ID Powell Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10 17 in 1969
ID Mullen Pass Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1954
ID Middle Fork Lodge Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 17 in 1985
ID Middle Fork Lodge Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1985
ID Middle Fork Lodge Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15 18 in 2002
ID May, 2 miles SSE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 8 14 in 1985
ID May, 2 miles SSE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 9 14 in 2002
ID May, 2 miles SSE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13 16 in 2003
ID Mackay Lost Rvr Rs Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1980
ID Lewiston Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 29 in 2008
ID Lewiston Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 28 in 2008
ID Kellogg Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 23 in 2002
ID Kellogg Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1983
ID Kellogg Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 22 in 1932
ID Headquarters Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 20 in 1990
ID Headquarters Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13 20 in 2008
ID Grangeville Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 21 in 1969
ID Gibbonsville Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10 16 in 1985
ID Gibbonsville Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12 17 in 2002
ID Elk City, 1 miles NE of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 8 15 in 1987
ID Coeur D Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 27 in 1896
ID Coeur D Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1954
ID Boise Lucky Peak Dam Tue, 13 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1969
ID Boise, 7 miles N of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 27 27 in 2008
ID Bayview Model Basin Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 22 in 2003
ID Bayview Model Basin Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15 21 in 2002
IA Webster City Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1980
IA Waterloo Muni Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23 25 in 1983
IA Tripoli Wed, 14 Oct 2009 24 25 in 2006
IA Swea City, 4 miles W of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2006
IA Swea City, 4 miles W of Wed, 14 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1979
IA Swea City, 4 miles W of Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23 23 in 2006
IA Swea City, 4 miles W of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1987
IA Spencer Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 21 in 2000
IA Sioux Rapids, 4 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1987
IA Sioux City Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 24 in 2000
IA Sidney Sat, 10 Oct 2009 28 29 in 2000
IA Sibley, 5 miles NNE of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1987
IA Shenandoah Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1990
IA Postville Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1988
IA Ottumwa Industrial Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1987
IA Ottumwa Industrial Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 27 in 1964
IA Onawa, 3 miles NW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 23 in 1946
IA Newton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1895
IA Newton Wed, 14 Oct 2009 26 27 in 1898
IA New Hampton Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1959
IA Mason City Muni Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21 25 in 1979
IA Mason City Muni Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 24 in 2006
IA Lamoni Sun, 11 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1932
IA Elkader, 6 miles SSW of Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1988
IA Eldora Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1987
IA Dubuque Wso Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21 23 in 1987
IA Dubuque Wso Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1964
IA Dubuque Wso Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1988
IA Denison Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1987
IA Cedar Rapids Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1964
IA Cedar Rapids Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 27 28 in 2006
IA Britt Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1919
IA Ankeny Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2000
IA Ankeny Tue, 13 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1979
HI Kailua 446 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 56 58 in 2008
HI Kailua 446 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 57 57 in 2006
CT Bridgeport Sikorsky Ap Thu, 15 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1999
CO Yuma Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1977
CO Wray Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1958
CO Waterdale Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 18 in 1946
CO Waterdale Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1977
CO Walsh, 1 miles W of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 29 in 1993
CO Walsenburg Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21 26 in 1946
CO Trinidad Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1993
CO Tacony, 13 miles SE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1993
CO Sterling Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 18 in 1932
CO Sedgwick, 5 miles S of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1987
CO Rush, 1 miles N of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1990
CO Pueblo Rsvr Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1977
CO Pueblo Mem Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 26 in 1992
CO Pueblo Mem Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1987
CO Leroy, 9 miles WSW of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1987
CO Leroy, 9 miles WSW of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 19 in 1932
CO Lamar Municipal Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1990
CO Lamar Municipal Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 27 in 1982
CO Lamar Mon, 12 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1992
CO Lakewood Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22 25 in 1990
CO Lakewood Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16 22 in 1977
CO Lake Moraine Sun, 11 Oct 2009 1 4 in 1946
CO Lake Moraine Fri, 16 Oct 2009 3 3 in 1923
CO Lake Moraine Tue, 13 Oct 2009 3 6 in 1923
CO Lake Moraine Sat, 17 Oct 2009 2 9 in 1948
CO La Junta Muni Ap Sun, 11 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1977
CO La Junta Muni Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23 28 in 1993
CO Julesburg Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 20 in 1894
CO John Martin Dam Sun, 11 Oct 2009 24 24 in 1977
CO Holyoke Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1948
CO Greeley Unc Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1987
CO Grant Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14 16 in 1990
CO Georgetown Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20 25 in 2005
CO Ft Morgan Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 19 in 1977
CO Ft Collins Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 18 in 1905
CO Evergreen Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13 13 in 1977
CO Eads Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1977
CO Eads Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 25 in 1985
CO Durango La Plata County Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1990
CO Colorado Spgs Muni Ap Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20 23 in 1987
CO Castle Rock Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1977
CO Canon City Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22 22 in 1977
CO Canon City Sat, 10 Oct 2009 24 25 in 1987
CO Byers, 5 miles ENE of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16 21 in 1987
CO Burlington Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17 21 in 1969
CO Burlington Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1986
CO Akron, 4 miles E of Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15 21 in 2000
CO Akron, 4 miles E of Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15 19 in 1977
AK Ketchikan Mon, 12 Oct 2009 28 30 in 1926
AK Gustavus Tue, 13 Oct 2009 24 26 in 2003
AK Annette Wso Ap Tue, 13 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1992
AK Annette Wso Ap Mon, 12 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1992


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:
The director of "Not Evil, Just Wrong," a documentary challenging
Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," dares to ask a question at the
Society of Environmental Journalists annual conference. Apparently
Mr. Gore only allows the 'right kind' of questions to be asked of him.




Not Evil Just Wrong:
The Film Al Gore Doesn’t Want You to See


October 19th, 2009

Last night Heritage hosted the world premiere of “Not Evil Just Wrong,” a feature-length documentary that reveals the true cost of global warming hysteria. The film was broadcast live on Ustream.tv.

Following last night’s screening at Heritage, Andrew Breitbart moderated a panel featuring Richard Lindzen, a professor of meteorology at MIT; Donald Roberts, professor emeritus of tropical health in the Department of Preventive Medicine and Biometrics at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences; and John Fund, an author and columnist at the Wall Street Journal.

Here’s video of the panel discussion:

Quote:
Panel Discussion Highlight Begins @ 19 Minutes into Video
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One of the participants is Richard Lindzen who destroyed the basis
for the global warming theory with his recent paper showing that
the Earth sheds extra heat at rates inconsistent with the hype:

Quote:
Climate Sensitivity Estimates:
Heading Down, Way Down?


by Chip Knappenberger
August 26, 2009

MIT climate scientists Richard Lindzen and collaborator Yong-Sang Choi soon-to-be published paper (Geophysical Research Letters, American Geophysical Union) pegs the earth’s “climate sensitivity”—the degree the earth’s temperature responds to various forces of change—at a value that is about six times less than the “best estimate” put forth by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The smaller the climate sensitivity, the less the impact that rising carbon dioxide levels will have on the earth’s climate. The less the impact that CO2 emissions will have on the earth’s climate, the less the “problem” and ability to reverse the “problem.”.....

http://masterresource.org/?p=4307

See Also:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/23/new-paper-from-lindzen/

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The site noteviljustwrong.com was down earlier today.

Back up now with this message:

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We have been attacked.

A spammer has attacked our site and caused our transactions to be shut down.

http://www.noteviljustwrong.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a very interesting panel debate I posted above.

Totally disorganized and worth further study and comment.

Meanwhile, this email in from a reader:

Quote:
Although I think AGW is a phony issue, I certainly don't trust the Heritage Foundation to help correct the misperceptions of Mann, Gore, Hanson, et al.

This is just more divide and conquer. The hard right could have easily been chosen to play the role of evil doers (AGW believers) except this works so much better as a vehicle to bring the "conservatives" (a.k.a. fascists) back to power and to resurrect the Bush image as a wise statesman who did not bend to false science.

This same trick was played for Nixon using the left and the China issue, and now they will use the right. This is not a left vs. right issue, it is an issue of science/truth seeking. First the (fake) "left" politicized the issue and now, in the other corner, comes the fightin' back (fake) "right".

More Glen Beck vs. Obama -- just a stage production. We are so easily manipulated. The Sierra Club gets funding from the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations; the joke's on us.

I agree with Shroom's science[ http://www.nov55.com/ ] , but I am not sure that Anthony is not just one of the players -- he could/would have easily been stopped if he poised a real threat to the real plan -- just saying.
Have a lovely day/night.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
That was a very interesting panel debate I posted above.


Always good info on this site but it's been on overload---in a good way---trying to catch up, will check out that panel debate right now.

In the meantime, yeah Gary Novak rules. He should stop in again sometime.

TONS of good info at nov55 that's very relevant to the discussion.

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http://www.nov55.com/35mpg.html

Abolishing the Lightbulb

This principle is demonstrated by the light bulb. The crazies are in the process of abolishing the common light bulb and forcing people to use replacement fluorescents. Supposedly, the replacements use less electricity. But they only give off a fraction of the light. By the time the number of bulbs is increased to make up the difference, no electricity is saved. But perhaps even more significant is that the fluorescents do not start rapidly, which means people are going to leave them on semi-permanently and use ten times as much electricity for that reason. About ninety percent of the normal light bulbs in a house are only turned on for a minute or two. The fluorescents cannot be started that fast. So they will be left on all the time, just as old ladies have to drive SUVs, where they would rather drive something more practical.

Here's what General Electric says on their web site:

"Compact fluorescent bulbs are best used in fixtures that are left on for longer periods of time, rather than in fixtures that are turned off and on frequently...These types of lamps can take up to 3 minutes to warm-up...the lamp needs to warm-up in order to reach the point of most efficient operation. Frequently switching them on and off will shorten the life of the product. If the life of the lamp is shortened significantly, you will not reap the financial benefits (includes energy & life of lamp), that are common to CFL lamps."

Guess what. Modern houses already use fluorescent lights for most purposes, and all business lighting is fluorescent. Probably about 1-3% of indoor lighting is incandescent. Then a major part of lighting is street lights, which are not going to be switched to fluorescent.

What it means is that when frauds talk about a major chunk of the energy supply being improved by compact fluorescent lights they are misrepresenting the numbers. Less that 1% of the energy used for lighting is subject to conversion.

Even if there were improvements as claimed, the gains would be too trivial to justify the expensive glass, mercury and inconvenience. But the truth is, there will be more electricity used and materials wasted. Yet incandescent bulbs are already disappearing from the stores because of the overwhelming fraud. Where are people going to get incandescent bulbs for the inappropriate fixtures and conditions which GE mentions? They will cost about $5 each.

Any analysis would show that the fluorescent light bulb scheme is nothing but an expensive fraud which will waste energy. The same is true of every scheme designed to supposedly reduce energy use, when it is forced onto someone instead of letting people decide for themselves what works best. Since any honest person knows this, the obvious conclusion is that the frauds are using environmentalism to establish their Nazi control of society, not to save energy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good post Fintan,

from a reader:
"Although I think AGW is a phony issue, I certainly don't trust the Heritage Foundation to help correct the misperceptions of Mann, Gore, Hanson, et al. "


I certainly second that.

my thoughts:
this was a pro-business, pro-capitalism forum whose points are
1 the capitalist free market will provide solutions
2. yet they pick on Al Gore (and his unmentioned wall street boys) as environmentalists, when in fact they are just ruthless capitalists, trying to make a buck.
3. the theme is the problems of the third world are due to "environmentalism"
4.Capitalist colonialism had nothing to do with babies dying in Ghana

just because you point out the error of others doesn't make your answer correct.
I agree that the environmental movement has been hijacked
I agree that regulating CO2 is nonsense but that regulating pollution and capitalism, a major source of pollution, is necessary.
i agree that third world countries may need DDT to stop malaria
but the long term solution is better sanitation, food supply and employment. not resource exploitation and propped up civil wars that forces people to live in squalid conditions.

maybe their next film should be:
'undoubtably Evil and wrong"
How robber baron capitalism is destroying the environment and increasing poverty

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The makers of the movie, Ann McElhinney & Phelim McAleer are a pair
of journalists turned movie makers. Their last prior project was a movie
called Mine Your Own Business which was billed as:

"critical of environmentalist opposition to against
large scale mining projects in the developing world."


Disconcertingly for an 'independent' movie, it was in fact funded by
Gabriel Resources --a gold mining company. (and by Rio Grande Foundation)

The movie focused on the environmental opposition to plans for a
gold mine development in Romania....... by Gabriel Resources.

Lurking behind the environmentalists was none other than George Soros:

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Soros, who has investments in rival gold mining companies, organized opposition to the project via his Open Society Institute in Romania, working hand-in-hand with several non-Romanian NGOs against the project.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/bill-hobbs/2007/12/05/victory-george-soros
http://www.osf.ro/en/comunicate_detaliu.php?comunicat=25


So Gabriel Resources wheeled in McElhinney & McAleer to make an
'independent' movie to counter Soros.

Given that background, it's no wonder the pair of movie-makers are
deeply embedded in the Left-Right political divide --a perspective
which emerged in the panel discussion after the recent netcast of their
latest movie: Not Evil Just Wrong.

McElhinney ranted against the Right, shouted into her microphone,
usurped the role of the panel chairman, dominated the discussion, and
tellingly revealed her background as a schoolteacher. Whoud'a thunk!

Overall, McElhinney has all the credibility and nuance of a Sarah Palin.


The movie does make a good point about the environmentalist campaign
against DDT, and how that campaign robbed the world of the most
effective commercial insecticide to counter malaria, resulting in the
death of many millions in the developing world. McElhinney ranted
against Rachel Carson, whose book Silent Spring was key to the
demonization of DDT.

But, as is typical of shallow propagandists, it missed the real story.

The environmentalists fighting DDT were not the real enemy. The patent
on DDT was about to expire at the time the campaign peaked. And the
patent-holder was Pharma giant Glaxo Welcome. Their profits were set
to collapse on expiration of the patent. But the company had a patent
on a replacement for DDT(which is an organochlorine insecticide).

That product was an organophosphate: Roundup.

The ban on DDT eliminated the organochlorine; sidelined the rivals who
were about to compete with Glaxo on expiry of its patent; and left the
field clear for Glaxo's new organophosphate replacement.

Ranting against the environmental stooges in that devious corporate plot
just diverts us all from the key role role played by a ruthless corporation.


The campaign against the global warming hysteria needs to address
the middle-ground opinion not polarize the debate into the dead-end
of Left-Right politics. The movie makers are propagandists, and their
entry into the debate is as much a hindrance as a help.

My email correspondent made good points, but wrote:

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The hard right could have easily been chosen to play the role of evil
doers (AGW believers) except this works so much better as a vehicle to
bring the "conservatives" (a.k.a. fascists) back to power and to resurrect
the Bush image as a wise statesman who did not bend to false science.

I reckon the environmental Nanny-State-ism of global warming really
only fits properly with the Left and not at all with the Right. The game
all along was to use negative feelings against Bush to portray the AGW
opposition to the global audience as: 'yesterday's men'.

But, indeed the danger is that the Right will hijack our victory.

He also wrote:

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I am not sure that Anthony is not just one of the players -- he could/
would have easily been stopped if he poised a real threat to the real plan..

He's referring to Anthony Watts of http://wattsupwiththat.com/

That science blog is probably the most vital resource for opponents
of the warming hysteria, and unlike the movie, it is moderate in
tone, rigorous in science and a terrific asset.

Sometimes the Truth finds an outlet.

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