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Azoth



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject: c Reply with quote

"all is vanity"..."impermanence"...."maya"...."fickle"...

alliteration. wasn't this unique to old norse/icelandic poetry? this thought turns to Tiwaz.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: All will be revealed Reply with quote

Casting your lot with runes might lead to ruination? Or perhaps just rueing the day? It could lead to extensive beard growth as well... Very Happy


http://runereadings.blogspot.com/

That was, the week, Tiwaz ... Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: c Reply with quote

Another (somewhat crude) tidbit on the oddity of sex. Mainly with guys. Note how you can be totally possessed by sexual fantasy right up to the point of orgasm. That is, ejaculation. Then what happens? The sweet aroma of the imaginings vanish, completely... until a recharge. It's such an energy kill that it's outright conspicuous. I never considered it but did read the question, "where does that energy go?" Good one.

I also wonder how the nondualist (practitioner, as it were) views sex. They ask questions to self like "who is it really that wants this?" They feel if you keep it up you'll trace it back to nothing (to then realize pure awareness). The illusions of ego demand...
But what about sex? If you ask this you could get the answer, "this fucking biological unit that's who!!" Non dualism can be effective for getting out of the game... but I don't yet see how it helps in the practical (first circuit etc) senses of physiological demand.

Mar(c)k

Oh, a revisit if I may. A new age metaphysics' adage is like attracts like. Fine. Then what about the fact that like charges repel? surely the former is based on resonance and sympathetic magick. So What indeed about the latter then? I recall the scientist B Dratch addressed this and warned about this new age concept. His take was that if you (psychically) send healing energies they end up Inverting at target! So you could make person B worse....

I read too much. But one of these views has to be wrong unless em charge has absolutely nothing to do with these more subtle vibrations.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: I like what I like? Reply with quote

The whole law of attraction bamboozle is a perverse and perfidious play on Fintan's favorite, the mirror plane.

Symmetry is very pleasing to the human senses. This is because balance is a form of symmetry and we require this state to have access to all aspects of our existence. LoA takes this fundamental property and twists it around to show that if you see what you like, it is just a reflection of what you are....and you do like yourself, don't you? But if you do, why do you want to change the way that you are? Perverse in its own way, the baffled and bamboozled acolyte is obliged to submit to the will and desires of the master. Succumbing to the need for integration, the interjection of this interference takes the place of the person and allows the ego free rein to hitch its horse to the wagon in question.

Sexual congress is the opposite in terms of energy. We share to provide mutual pleasure. Both "opposites" attract because they can combine to provide a neutral and all-encompassing result. That is the balance that is needed and that provides the satisfaction. Those that dominate may feel a greater result but that is at the behest of the subjugated and the net total is inferior to what would be available and accessible under totally balanced conditions. Fantasy is just the inwardly directed portion of this energy flow. Rather than sharing, it is an attempt to reflect all energy into one's own centers.

EMF describes a physical reality that is both immutable and inviolate. Psychic energy subtends this and allows for access to all realities which explains the potential for misdirection and malfeasance. "Healers" need to be compensated by more than just wanting to help and do good. Otherwise, the net minus comes back as some other form and the work is never-ending.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole law of attraction bamboozle is a perverse and perfidious play on Fintan's favorite, the mirror plane.

>>> In which I see the gnostic formula IAO. Or I <> A <O>>>>> Note however the right side of one's face is rather different than the left! Chiral, as Raphael of the Eastern Quadrant says...

LoA takes this fundamental property and twists it around to show that if you see what you like, it is just a reflection of what you are....and you do like yourself, don't you? But if you do, why do you want to change the way that you are? Perverse in its own way, the baffled and bamboozled acolyte is obliged to submit to the will and desires of the master. Succumbing to the need for integration, the interjection of this interference takes the place of the person and allows the ego free rein to hitch its horse to the wagon in question.

>>>> I took the doctrine to mean Everything is a reflection of your innards. Shadow atteh..hut!! I think the (niche industry's) LoA was tailored for folks dissatisfied with externals. So yes, ego is still playing it's game.
But let me respond in kind; shadow material, if repressed, reaches a bifurcation due to stresses at resonant junctures. Similar dynamics can be found in the lower circuits when activated by external events. Providing there is sufficient bio energy available, instinctual impulses may be sublimated via the repressed nature of the shadow material, if having reached a bifurcation point. Thus, repression is itself repressed but only in so far as being conscious repression.

Sexual congress is the opposite in terms of energy. We share to provide mutual pleasure. Both "opposites" attract because they can combine to provide a neutral and all-encompassing result. That is the balance that is needed and that provides the satisfaction. Those that dominate may feel a greater result but that is at the behest of the subjugated and the net total is inferior to what would be available and accessible under totally balanced conditions. Fantasy is just the inwardly directed portion of this energy flow. Rather than sharing, it is an attempt to reflect all energy into one's own centers.

>>> You are typing along the lines of an ideal scenario. In typing this I realize that if everything was balanced we may as well pop back into Void.
Rather, IT's game is up...
But the long term degradation agenda on society has done well in this regard. Hollywood and porn. Balance out the window. Game is on...

EMF describes a physical reality that is both immutable and inviolate. Psychic energy subtends this and allows for access to all realities which explains the potential for misdirection and malfeasance.

>>> Are you saying there is no causal connection whatsoever? I think there may be a medium or connecting energy. See above; IAO
But perhaps scalar waves. Don't know but the kabbalisitc tree seems to have branches indicating E and M and so on...perhaps just in the lower seven sephira or microcosm... but likely relegated to malkuth. Don't know.


"Healers" need to be compensated by more than just wanting to help and do good. Otherwise, the net minus comes back as some other form and the work is never-ending.

>>>> I was stupified when reading some russian findings concerning both Channels and Healers. Incredible fact is most of these folks, the dedicated, end up with cancer. That could be a hot topic for another thread; why this is.

Do you consider porn neutral and or according to each individual's make up? Or as something entirely derailing regarding balance and inner harmony? Put the importance of relationship aside in answering however! It would appear porn was loosed on the masses for an intended result. I actually heard that the Vatican played a part in this. Seems devious as it can be benign - depending on the state of one's um shadow reaching bifurcation....

Well how's it goin' Pete? You're the only guy who ever replies as you know. Warum? I may pm you for some fringe type queries or shareabilities.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: glitch Reply with quote

something's wrong with the program. your quote about balance isn't making it into my submitted reply. hence just my reply.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: The road much less traveled? Reply with quote

Interference comes in many forms but the most perfidious is our own convictions and the bias that they inherently cause to our perception of reality.

Chirality (the "handedness" of an orientation) and enantiomerism (the actual differentiation of the same item seen through the "looking glass") both provide a sense of sameness while demonstrating the fundamental difference that perspective provides.

Caraway and spearmint are enantiomers. In a racemic mixture (equal amounts of both) they balance out but give a greater than "average" sensation. Even in "pure" samples, even the slightest presence provides a perceptible counterpoint. Next time you chew some spearmint gum, think rye bread with caraway seeds and you will see what that means.

Dextrous versus sinister? Together they are more than the sum of their parts and demonstrate that integration can provide the "extra" boost that we need to reach the next level, whether we can perceive it or not.

I gave up hoping for consensus or even recognition, some time ago. Not conducive to the efficient use of resources. Return is a start and respect is the fuel that lights my fire. We may not know where the road leads but we can be sure that if we create that path then it is our own.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: c Reply with quote

Azoth wrote:
Another (somewhat crude) tidbit on the oddity of sex. Mainly with guys. Note how you can be totally possessed by sexual fantasy right up to the point of orgasm. That is, ejaculation. Then what happens? The sweet aroma of the imaginings vanish, completely... until a recharge. It's such an energy kill that it's outright conspicuous. I never considered it but did read the question, "where does that energy go?" Good one.



In Samael Aun Woer's "The Perfect Matrimony" which I hesitatingly bought but halfway through find a fascinating read, he states that according to high initiates of the mysteries, which apparently he was one, the energy from the orgasm is represented as "solar atoms" in both men and women and as orgasm is being experienced, it is sent down to the Coccyx(the coccyx of the ASTRAL BODY, that is; CREATING A TAIL UPON THE ASTRAL BODY.)

Now, when one can hold from going into orgasm, the sexual energy is sent the other way up to the pineal gland and cosmic forces are accumulated in the depths of the soul. This apparently is one of the ways high initiates use sexual energy to a spiritual advantage. If true this makes more sense of those orgies by the Dionisyian Bacchic cult, who probably were using it as a reason to simply get laid. Smile

The famous logo with the sexy high healed angel with wings on the one side of the logo and the sexy devil girl with a tail on the other side of the logo reveals itself symbolically a bit more now.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: What goes down must come out. Reply with quote

We are, effectively, energy conduits. Refined (rarified) ethereal energies are realized (densified) so that they can become useful in the material plane. Sexual energy manifests within the most dense fields so therefore the most palpable. Thus, when your energy emission exits in the sexual plane it is very noticeable. The "gain" that is realized is felt by all of the subtle bodies as it must resonate with all of them during its passage.

Withholding for "higher" purposes? That is counter-productive as that energy (despite what certain tantric principles espouse) is re-circulated and ends up short-circuiting the system. It loses its efficacy but does manage to ennervate and energize all sorts of memorial forms within the boundaries of the astral body wherein lie the "secrets" of ancient wisdom. This leads to the false impression that it serves a useful purpose as opposed to aiding and abetting the enemy.

They are many and their name is legion. We are but one and that is the way.

When you share in the natural manner, you provide the most precious of impetus, the life-force. When you restrain, you waste your energy on what amounts to death as that is what memories are all about. That which is no longer alive.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see taking an opposing stance based upon some posts regarding the supposive "Perfect Matrimony", but I m guessing based upon your answer that you didn't read the book. The first few chapters, interesting, still had me skepical, but as the book went on, the explanation how and why the pineal gland benefits from sexual energy did make sense. Thinking Kundalini, the story of the staff of Moses, the serpent and his powers have a new meaning.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: Take a break and stop applying the brakes. Reply with quote

Fintan didn't discover disinformation.......he is just making sure that we do...

Humanity has a predilection for "embellishing" whatever it doesn't understand or isn't ready to handle. That embellishment is definitely in the (mind's) eye of the beholder. Fool me once, try to learn. Fool me twice, hey!

The new year isn't new, just renewed.

Our perspective is under constant renewal but our reality is an evolutionary process. To keep up, we need a clear and neutral presence that can make use of every energetic morsel that is available to it.

Breaks are good when you need to wait for events to occur. Brakes control your speed or are useful to keep you from going over a cliff. They are not intended to be applied continually.

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