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Peter



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:54 am    Post subject: It's lonely out in space... Reply with quote

Interesting juxtaposition of the apex and the nadir of "spirituality".

"Higher" consciousness was never about being taken over by some disincarnate entity and becoming its mouthpiece.

The former presentation, while pandering to a spiritualized Gaia mindset, was definitely accurate. The latter, however, was best used as a poster-child for the mind-field of refuse collection.

Thanks, Neil, for providing the contrast.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freshly baked & hot from the oven!

Yum.


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Some teachers are arguing that since we are entangled
in a quantum mechanical sense we are all one. I feel such
statements are so trivial that they are meaningless to make.
Of course, we are all one in the sense that all humans are
the products of the same reality and totally interconnected
in this. Yet, a mere mental realization of a concept or a
spiritual insight is not enough for us to actually experience
oneness and anchor it in reality.

Unity consciousness is
something we need to craft and work with to see manifested
through the support of this Ninth wave and again it may only
be possible to do so after a global monetary collapse.




The point to realize is that oneness is not an
attribute of ourselves as individuals, but of
our relationships to others and the divine
.

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/Beginning_4thNight_9thWave.htm


Great Stuff by Carl.

The west is most certainly about to collapse with global ripples.
Some big banks, big media, big psycho dirtbags are gonna be
hit HARD.

Rupert Murky murdering Murdock is petrified despite the
smiley photo ops. They're all terrified. The collapse of
mainstream media is ESSENTIAL to an opening and
sprouting of a unity consciousness. I sense Chaos!
But not an anarchic dark breakdown. Economies will
survive, people like to be active.

Some of the best IDEAS ARE ABOUT TO BE BORN

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:58 pm    Post subject: being is knowing Reply with quote

A unity consciousness is not a mass-consciousness. The mass can only commonly use those aspects of our lower mental reaches because they are transmissible by interaction in the physical (psychological, emotional) plane.

A unified field in the upper mental reaches is indeed the home of the entanglement phenomenon. Entangled not by either proximity or similarity but by exchange of realities. We unify our awareness by providing others with our unique perspective. A complete, holistic and 360 degree vision of reality is what is needed and it can only come about when all representatives of that reality reveal their perceptions.

Apocalypse = revelation = singularity.

A single-minded awareness of a totality. As one with reality. Unity. The end of the universe because it is just a beginning.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/CosmicConvergenceSeptember23-26.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: planning commission Reply with quote

Thanks for that post, Bri, and nice to see you back and in shape Very Happy

My exposure to the "actual" Maya (K'iche as well as natives that are also day-keepers and elders etc.) tends to bring my appreciation of Carl into perspective. They express concern that he tends to "westernize" their legacy, but they accept that it's all good.

http://sacredroad.org/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=2&showtopic=935#1068

There is the proviso, however, that when I read statements from Carl like:

I thus feel that the comet Elenin signals to us that we should surrender our egos to the all encompassing cosmic intelligence and also that this is our last chance to be part of the polarity shift to unity consciousness

that it bodes well to remain circumspect and neutral whenever dealing with matters that can be easily polarized by personal structures or belief systems.

Either way, whether we transform our egos into transparent and crystalline devices for tuning in to our spiritual nature or if it happens for other reasons, we are certainly best served by the free exchange of information and ideas so that we can discern which ones suit our purpose more exactly. It is, after all, part of the plan.
Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, posted a somewhat well thought out reply
earlier Pete but it looks as if I didn't let
the page load all the way before I shut down
and rushed out. Smile

Lazy summary:

Yeah...get the phase shift thing,
feeling it, seeing it micro and macro.


Calleman has said things that have
raised one of my eyebrows or two
now and again but overall less than
most Mayan Calender white guys.

I identify with Fintan as in although
there are likely no aliens (beyond what
is incomprehensible to us at least)
there is a sort of Cosmic intelligence.

To me, Carl is not saying anything too
far fetched there, the depths of the Internet
contain much darker and creepier ideas.

Are these comets not part of ourselves in
the grand sense?

Fuck, now I'm getting all airy fairy.

Digging your words as well,
always an inspiration, keep it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: go your own way Reply with quote

It is never lazy to:

eliminate the excessive
accentuate the exact

that is being efficient. (Even if somewhat arcane means are required to help us along... Cool )

Every exchange strives to establish a balance, both between us and within us. The value in that expression is the revelation of the degree and measure of our intent. We are mirrors for each other but we are also portals that provide a unique perspective for our perceptions.

I sense a certain assuredness in your "presence" here. Your recent absence was surely profitable, I expect.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find that it can be useful to disconnect,
even from the net, ...refreshing.

Lol of course this wasn't entirely by choice,
computer issues for starters, mostly personal.

It's a bit bizarre how sometimes my life reflects
this Mayan thing on a micro level. Sometimes I
wonder if I've been reading bfn too much or simply
gone mad.


I feel more assured than ever,
ready complete the carving of that path.
We are all the so called chosen one
whenever we are ready to be and
even make a few fuck ups along the way,
Big deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. I miss my keyboard.
If God made thumbs they damn well weren't for typing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: speak up but never talk down Reply with quote

bri wrote:
p.s. I miss my keyboard.
If God made thumbs they damn well weren't for typing.


Does your phone not have that little microphone icon on the virtual keyboard? When using my phone on the web, it is invaluable.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Fifth Night of the Ninth Wave starts as of August 18th of 2011 and many are wondering what this energy will carry. When we look back at history the fifth night usually appears as a very destructive time period and this naturally adds drama to the interest. Typically, the Fifth night means a ¨dark age¨ with some kind of destruction and without exception it has meant a sharp economic decline. It is however never entirely true to talk about an energy in the Mayan calendar as exclusively being destructive or constructive, because similarly to how the god Shiva among the Hindus is both the creator and destroyer all calendrical energies carry both aspects and the destructiveness is there to give room for something new to be created. For us who are living in this momentous end time what is important is to be able to grasp the most relevant information from the Mayan calendar and not get stuck in simplistic labels. It was by recognizing this multifacetness of the calendrical energies (and, if you like, Revelation 16) that I was able to correctly predict that the economic collapse caused by the Ninth wave would be precipitated by the Fifth day that started July 31 and ends now on August 17. (http://www.calleman.com/content/
articles/Third_day_Ninth_Wave.htm, May 22 and http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/
Beginning_4thNight_9thWave.htm, July 13). To some this downturn may seem like a destructive event, inconsistent with a day, but from the perspective of the emergence of unity consciousness, which is the chief purpose of the Ninth wave, the economic crisis is actually a constructive event that paves the way for the future. Based on that assumption it can actually be said that the development of this economic crisis has followed the Mayan calendar with exceptional precision. In the fifth day the stability of several major European banks has been seriously threatened and government leaders are in constant teleconferences to discuss how to halt the crisis. The US, on its part, has lost its status as AAA and since the midpoint of the fourth night (the seating of the energy of the fifth day) 7 trillion dollars of stock value has gone up in smoke.

Yet, a downgrading of the US creditworthiness and the loss of 7 trillion dollars of stock value really does not mean anything except that the numbers associated with certain papers have been depreciated. It is thus essentially correct when commentators say that so far the crisis has not had any effect on the ¨real economy.¨ The unity consciousness of the fifth day simply shocked the mental duality between abstract values and real values. There is however no reason to expect that it will be possible to limit the crisis to the ¨unreal economy¨. Thus, I expect that in the now beginning Fifth night also the real economy will be hit. How quickly this will actually manifest is hard to tell but I expect that events in the fifth night will lay the foundation for massive unemployment in many major Western countries (It is of course high already, but for many it has still been possible to keep on with the previous lifestyle). I also expect that there will be a large runaway from the stock markets and the stability of currencies will be negatively affected to a point where new radical solutions need to be considered.

In terms of real changes (in contrast to those merely on paper) the breakthrough energy of the fifth day was most clearly visible in the political arena where the authority of governments of major western nations is beginning to collapse. The looting and riots in the UK is one example. Another is that the political system of the United States could not prevent the Tea Party minority to impose its will on the debt ceiling discussions. something that has very seriously weakened the power of its whole political system. This political situation was also the main reason for the downgrading of the creditworthiness of the US, even it can be said that the US government along with many other western governments in fact are way too indebted for their own health and this is not something that was caused by the Tea Party. Regardless, the US political institutions have taken a major beating and no one is really able to see how its functioning is to be restored.

The world is thus entering the Fifth night of the Ninth wave with seriously weakened prospects for its economy and seriously weakened authority of some of its major governments. Such developments were of course what I always have predicted in my books based on the shifts in consciousness that humanity is undergoing with the eighth and the ninth waves: The weakening and downfall of hierarchies of dominance. I have however also often said that there is little reason to expect that the transition to unity consciousness to be smooth and easy, but that it will include very difficult reactions as well. The dramatic changes are coming now with the Ninth wave more rapidly than anyone could have imagined. As part of this, in addition to the crisis beginning to hit the real economy in the fifth night, I think it is realistic that there will be some kind of political reaction to the developing chaos. In the US this could for instance take the form of giving extraordinary powers either to Obama or to the new so called Super Congress possibly under the pretext of some act of terrorism. Given the spread of chaos especially in the economic arena it is not unlikely that such measures also could gain a significant popular support.

My own view is that the economic crisis will only deepen as we go throughout the fifth night into the Sixth day and take large proportions onwards until the end of the Mayan calendar on October 28, 2011. Naturally, many will then ask if there is a solution which could stop this, as I believe, ongoing decline of the current political and economic system. My answer would be that a solution simply does not exist within the framework of the world`s current economic system, since this mandates growth for its own functioning and survival. Yet, there is a fairly simple solution out of the collapse of the world`s economy that we now see the beginning of. The solution is the forgiveness of all debts, not only on the government levels, but most importantly debts that regular people have in the form of credit cards, mortgages and rents, etc etc. Such a forgiveness of all debts would have to be combined with the end of the use of money meaning that people just continue to do their jobs without any form of exchange. This would set an end to growth and help save the planet. It would also liberate people from having to make money in order to survive. All that would be required is that people care enough for one another to continue to do the necessary work for everyone`s survival and wellbeing day by day without asking for money in return. Technically this would not be so difficult to implement, but what is blocking such a solution to the problems of the world`s economy are primarily political and legal. It is however difficult to see why a government or any banks would be needed in such a system and so these groups that hold the world's military power would most likely resist it. Moreover, for many regular people at least in our current world it also may seem difficult to simply enjoy being and so constantly need to be doing things rather than being at peace with them. Yet, I do expect that in the sixth day of the Ninth wave, starting September 6th, we will see the first examples pointing in the directions of such solutions carrying the end to debts and money paving the way for the new world to be born after the end of the Mayan calendar on October 28, 2011. Unfortunately, billions of people lack basic knowledge about the Mayan calendar or even when its end date is and without this basic knowledge it is not easy to understand what is happening in the world.
We all have to work to correct this.

Carl Johan Calleman
Paris, 5 Manik, 17th day of the Fifth day (August 16, 2011)

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/5thNight_9thWave.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"My own view is that the economic crisis will only deepen as we go throughout the fifth night into the Sixth day and take large proportions onwards until the end of the Mayan calendar on October 28, 2011. "

Ha, my dog could predict THAT. Anybody see a leader of FDR caliber on the horizont?

Witout a leader we ARE going to hell in a basket....
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