FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in 
UK Riots
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Next Level Forum Index -> General Discussion
  ::  Previous topic :: Next topic  
Author Message
IronClad



Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 435
Location: Kent

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do they say the best time to release bad news? When there is a major emotive issue in the news.

Is this a good enough example?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/aug/12/olympic-village-qatari-ruling-family

"The village will be the centrepiece of a new, vibrant East London community".

One that will need a high electrified fence and 24/7 armed security, no doubt.

But seriously folks, who lives in a house like this?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arkestra



Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 273
Location: The Forest.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


_________________
I can see through you.
Some people see you.
To me you're just see-thru
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
arkestra



Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 273
Location: The Forest.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.straight.com/article-422777/vancouver/massive-attack-issues-statement-uk-riots

Quote:
In context with the complicit support of the
government, the banks looted the nation’s wealth
while destroying countless small businesses and
brought the whole economy to its knees in a covert,
clean manner, rather like organised crime.

Our reaction was to march and wave banners and
then bail them out. These kids would have to riot
and steal every night for a year to run up a bill
equivalent to the value of non-paid tax big business
has ‘avoided’ out of the economy this year alone.

They may not articulate their grievances like the
politicians that condemn them but this is absolutely
political. As for the ‘mindless violence’… is there
anything more mindless than the British taxpayer
quietly paying back the debts of others while
contributing bullets to conflicts that we have
absolutely no understanding of?

_________________
I can see through you.
Some people see you.
To me you're just see-thru
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
duaneh



Joined: 26 Feb 2011
Posts: 265
Location: west, pa, usa

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it when someone ties everything together

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/12/european-unrest-entirely-staged-political-theatre/

European Unrest: Entirely Staged Political Theatre

_________________
formerly known as duane in a previous registration
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SuperstarNeilC



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 344
Location: Manchester, England

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
SuperstarNeilC



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 344
Location: Manchester, England

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
IronClad



Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 435
Location: Kent

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First you go one way and then you go the other way trying to answer the question why. 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. You try to make some sense of it. Industry was shipped out - labour followed and the borders were opened up to immigration. This makes no sense so none of the rest will.

But what you don't do is to attack small businesses in your local town or city who are barely making a living but who pay their rents and taxes. You just don't.

That is being narrow minded or just a part of a psyop because the government don't care about the little guy - it's not part of the vision of monopoly capitalism - it's only unwanted competition.

But then this is pretty much what the guy in the street was talking about so you see how you can go round and around trying to find some sense in it. All you can be sure of is it does't hurt the politicians because they can turn it around in their favour. This has done nothing but harm to the "youth movement". Are they worth saving? That is the question the tax payers and peace loving people are asking. But then this question has never been posed before so its a beginning.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
leon



Joined: 22 Aug 2008
Posts: 1046
Location: 3d-rate nation

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sense? Who knows? Maybe it is a color revolution to promote the martial law in UK. Maybe it is an advertising campaign for new secure gated communities. Maybe both.
One thing for sure, it is NOT positive. Positive revolution is impossible without constructive program.
On the positive side, there is measurable increased immigration of UK to the Latin country I live in. Good, more business.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
leon



Joined: 22 Aug 2008
Posts: 1046
Location: 3d-rate nation

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I do believe that secured gated communities will be the new wave in the West. We have a lot of those around here with guys with the shotguns patrolling the streets. The maintenance fee is not that expensive: varying from $120 a month all the way to $1200 a month. Usually it includes backup electricity as well. Definition of being a middle class is about to change big time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Continuity



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1716
Location: Municipal Flat Block 18A, Linear North

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I can say is if you haven't already - read Neal Stephenson's 'Snow Crash'.

He obviously saw this coming a long time ago - he's funny as well as very clever, too. Wink

Also, welcome to BFN, IronClad. Cool

_________________
The rule for today.
Touch my tail, I shred your hand.
New rule tomorrow.

Cat Haiku
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
IronClad



Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 435
Location: Kent

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So they have charged a guy with two counts of arson including the House of Reeve and with intent to endanger life. Reading his other alleged crimes there is stealing a lap top from this store, violent disorder, two burglarys and theft of various items from House of Fraser.

A petty thief to a professional arsonist. The MO is wrong. Take a look at the photos of the store in flames. Every floor is aflame including the roof and even the building next to it [is this the two counts] and flames are stretching skyward. You will naturally say, it was a furniture store and it was a tinder box - well there surely must have been a sprinkler system [an insurance requirement?]. Did the furniture act as an excellerant or was an excellerant used. Would excellerant be picked up and carried to a furniture store to burn it down to the ground? Are you thinking of a riot or intent on committing arson? Do you just have a can with you at all times ready for a riot to break out?

Take a look at that burning store. How many folk do you see standing right up close to it? There is 7 watching the furniture go up. They could almost be confused with window shoppers. How hot do you think it is where they are standing? No expletive please. Lucky none of the burning building collapsed down into the steet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SuperstarNeilC



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Posts: 344
Location: Manchester, England

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Raw with grief, in a voice steady but tight with emotion, his appeal for calm on Wednesday was a beacon of hope amid the tumult and carnage of a horribly dark week for Britain.

Hours before he spoke, Tariq Jahan had lost his 21-year-old son Haroon, murdered in the Winson Green area of Birmingham by thugs who drove at him in their car in what appears to have been a racist attack.

No one could be more aware of the simmering racial tensions between Asians in his neighbourhood and those of Caribbean ancestry.

Yet Mr Jahan had the dignity, the compassion and the common sense to demand an end to the violence that had shattered his life. ‘Blacks, Asians, whites — we all live in the same community,’ he said. ‘Why do we have to kill one another? Why are we doing this? Step forward if you want to lose your sons. Otherwise, calm down and go home — please.’

There was no mention of feral rats or of the sickness in our society. There were no calls for revenge. If he had screamed for retribution, if he had chosen the emotional occasion of his son’s death to denounce whole swathes of the community, there could easily have been an unspeakable outbreak of racial violence.

Instead, Mr Jahan made an open and straightforward declaration of his faith. ‘I’m a Muslim. I believe in divine fate and destiny, and it was his destiny and his fate, and now he’s gone,’ he said. ‘And may Allah forgive him and bless him.’

It was a solemn, peaceful message that will make everyone who stereotypes Muslims as terrorists and fanatics feel ashamed of themselves. Tariq Jahan is a deeply impressive man, and like the great majority of Muslims in this country, he is hard-working, clean-living, guided in his conduct by religious belief, and unshakeable in his devotion to the ideal of family life.


Quote:

I suspect that when time passes and we look back on this week, it is the religious sincerity of Tariq Jahan that we shall remember. All of us — Muslims, Sikhs, Jews, Hindus, Christians — have a rich religious inheritance.

At the core of this inheritance is a sense of right and wrong. And in all these religions, the school where we learn of right and wrong is the family. Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and Hindus have all, very noticeably, retained this twin strand of family structure and ethical teaching.

Faith in Christianity itself began to unravel long ago, and the majority of those whose forebears were Christian are now completely secular. They would not even recognise simple Bible stories.

The events of the past week have shown the enormous value of a living religious faith.

Not only was Tariq Jahan more impressive than any of the commentators or politicians who spouted on the airwaves this week. He was more human.

By his religious response to his son’s death, he humanised not only the dreadful and immediate tragedy. He showed us that without a religion we are all less than human.





UK riots and the Haroon Jahan death: Legacy of a society that believes in nothing | Mail Online
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Next Level Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Page 6 of 7

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

Theme xand created by spleen.