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Aniam



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuity,

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Errr - I'm sure that's *really* deep, but I'm afraid I can't figure it out - are you talking about the rapture?


The law of cause and effect is one of the most basic laws of the universe (even the Bible makes reference to it in Galatians 6:7). It is only deep to those who don't want to accept that it affects personal character as much as it does physical science.

However, in answer to your question, no, I am not talking about the rapture. The present day teaching of the rapture is a theological fabrication rooted in the counter reformation of the 16th century. It was brought to the US in the early 20th century by John Nelson Darby and started to become mainstream eschatology after the publication of The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey in 1978. The effect I was referring to involves the consequences of America's presumptous spirit in regards to its "Jesus Jihad." I addressed that in my first post on this thread.


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Chorus: All religions make me wanna throw up / All religions make me sick / All religions make me wanna throw up / All religions suck / They all claim that they have the truth / They’ll set you free / Just give ‘em money and they’ll set you free / Free for a fee / They claim that they have “the Answer” / When they don’t even know the Question / They’re just a bunch of liars / They just want your money / They just want your consciousness


Those who have the truth don't have to claim it. They just speak it, and it is so. This is what separates the Bride of Christ from the lying religions of the world (especially those that take the name of Christ). And, those who know the truth can see that no one really has any money. It is all the property of "the beast." The only real wealth is a character that is in harmony with the truth, and no man can take that away from the soul.

MichaelC,

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Interesting that the two top photos(of the hill-billy preacher and GWB) have nothing to do with the Catholic Church but rather represent the heretical and false 'hill-billy religions' that have found $$$fertile ground$$$ among uneducated, directionless whitetrash Americans.


Anyone who is in agreement with the unification of professing Christianity and civil government have everything to do with the Catholic church. The fact that they may believe different things is irrelevant. Differing beliefs are nothing more than different shades of paint on the same house.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a good friend who lived in Spain in the 1950s, under Franco - when the Catholic Church was the powerful state church. My friend(who was gay) never said to me a single bad word about Franco or anything about life in Spain then. He did often say, though, that he could walk anywhere in Spain at any hour of the day or night and have no fear of attack whatsoever. Sort of the opposite of what it is today, at least in many parts of Barcelona.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the Jesus Never Existed book a few weeks ago. It's very interesting and full of great references.
Even if we could get rid of religion, we still have the problem of other NGOs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are track lists for the two albums I bought after hearing The 4th Branch on the audio - amazing, every song I like and they are obviously intelligent, but also very well informed and reassuring in their philosophy and outlook.

There is a lot said about evolution and philosophy that is - both albums are highly recommended.

Thanks, Fintan.


Immortal Technique - Revolutionary, Vol. 1 (17 Tracks)
Creation & Destruction
Dominant Species
Positive Balance (Featuring Big Zoo)
The Getaway
Beef & Broccoli
No Me Importa
Top of the Food Chain (Remix) [Featuring Poison Pen]
The Poverty of Philosophy
Revolutionary
Spend Some Time (Remix)
Dance with the Devil
The Prophecy
Understand Why
No Mercy
The Illest (Featuring Jean Grae & Pumpkinhead)
Speak Your Mind
Caught In the Hustle (Bonus Track)

Immortal Technique - Revolutionary, Vol. 2 (18 Tracks)
Revolutionary Intro
The Point of No Return
Peruvian Cocaine
Harlem Streets
Obnoxious
The Message & the Money
Industrial Revolution
Crossing the Boundary
Sierra Maestra
The 4th Branch
Internally Bleeding
Homeland and Hip Hop
The Cause of Death
Freedom of Speech
Leaving the Past
Truth's Razors
You Never Know
One (Remix)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to see us clarify that it may be time to take a stand against organized religion.

I'm not particularly religious, but I have no argument with the concept of God or religion. I think its keep at least a percentage of the population from being worse people than they'd be without it. I feel religion should always be one person's ersonal relationsip with whatever they percieve God to be - hairy thunderer or cosmic muffin (to quote NatLamp). Or nothing at all. But it's when they organize into churches and start making "worshipping rules" that the trouble truly begins.

The whole point of the brilliant Monty Python film Life of Brian was that religion is an almost invariably corrupted entity, that eventually strays so far from the principles of the teachings that it becomes intellectually and morally irrelevant. Within 10 minutes of the crowd suddenly deciding to follow Brian as their Messiah, they have aready split off into several contradictory sects.

'Opiate of the masses' is accurate, when you consider that the damage opiates can do physically, religion can easily match mentally.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'Opiate of the masses' is accurate, when you consider that the damage opiates can do physically, religion can easily match mentally.

The point you make is well taken, Rump, but I must say that despite popular misconceptions, opiates do *not* cause any physical damage to the body (despite maybe a little constipation) - it's the junkie lifestyle, and any contaminants that may also be being injected which does the damage. The greatest damage that opiates cause is mental, with their *huge* addictive potential.

If one were to take pure, pharmaceutical-grade opiates, and had a constant supply, you wouldn't get sick at all.

But that is by the by - the point you were making is still a valid one.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuity wrote:
The point you make is well taken, Rump, but I must say that despite popular misconceptions, opiates do *not* cause any physical damage to the body (despite maybe a little constipation) - it's the junkie lifestyle, and any contaminants that may also be being injected which does the damage. The greatest damage that opiates cause is mental, with their *huge* addictive potential.


Okay folks, who you gonna believe... me or some obvious drug pusher?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that reminds me - ya wanna buy any pharamceutical-grade opiates, y'all. Special discount for kiddies! 50% off for under 12-s!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuity wrote:
50% off for under 12-s!

I saw the same deal offered on Mark Foley's pants.

(Times are a-changin'. Normally that would have been a Michael Jackson joke.)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Good Point Reply with quote

Continuity wrote:

If one were to take pure, pharmaceutical-grade opiates, and had a constant supply, you wouldn't get sick at all.


All joking aside, you are correct when dealing with the reality of pain management. Fintan has discussed the issue in past audios with persecuted pain doctors/patients and I can tell you from personal experience that the "fear of opiates" is nothing more than a "war on drugs" opp ... not enough profit from the legitimate usage of this class of drug.

My wish for all of you is simple ... that you never have to face the possibility of persecution because you want to help those in pain or ease your own ... enough said.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The crux of the matter for me was when Fintan remarked that the positive aspects of Christianity is just our natural humanity.
To that I add, we don't need the middle men, never did.

Through organizing 'religion', the hook is attributing the inborn decency in humanity to an all powerful god who guarantees you'll be okay as long as you believe and submit to the priesthood. It works that way for all of them.

I actually had one free roaming mall 'witnesser' get in a debate with me many years ago, who finally got exasperated and said, "Look. You ain't going to make it without Jesus".

Many have been 'losing their religion' during this age. That's part of the globalist plan too.....thought they have one more use for Chistianity. Using it as a weapon to crush the Islamic peoples for being the most resistant to our system of porno and credit, and drugs both 'legal' and 'illegal'.

As one raise kinda sorta Catholic mainly from the momentum of my family's thousand years as Catholics, and respect for the many ancestors in Ireland who paid for it with their lives and suffereing from Elizabeth Rex through the Famine, I tend to hit it off with American Catholics and former Catholics. Hell, a Catholic geneology is almost the sort of traditional thing as being Jewish. I've identified that American former Catholics shaere--believe it or not---a less judgemental view on others. The reason it appears so is that we were not raised up on Calvinism.

American Catholics were freaked out and alienated by Gibson's 'Passion', and embarrassed by his scripted anti-semitic publicity stunt where he gets on the cover of People Magazine with his latest crap, claiming to be the American Catholic Poster Boy. He represents no one. No more than Bono should be taken to represent any group. They're both basically overpaid male prostitutes for the G8 agenda.

And Herr Ratzinger.......oh, my GOD. We knew that the head of what's actually the Inquisition with kinder, gentler branding and marketing represents the next stage after the frontman John Paul.
This became painfully evident with his verbal frontal assault on Islam.
Now, American Catholics I know aren't as dumb by a long shot as the 'religious right' Calvinist somnambuloids. We have history, we have a long frame of reference. We know whatever comes out of the Vatican is politics and bad news---same as it always has been.

No, I don't participate in Catholicism, but when you've got the ancestry, we do keep an eye on what the Vatican is up to. Ratzinger's move was/is horrifying. He's handing the world's Catholics --in spirit anyway--over to the G8 along with the religious right fanatics. To the Calviinists!

Well, I say FK THAT!
Like my grand dad used to say: To hell with the Poop. (he called the Pope the 'Poop').

My point is, Fintan hit on the answer many are asking now. If we're wise about religions, how can we keep the good stuff alive--and justified?

It's our Humanity, and every human being has a birthright to anything promised by the Church or Jesus, or the Imams and Mohammed for that matter. This is actually the right age for the first time in millenia for taking our Humanity back and owning it. We don't need the seal of a God or Pope's approval to justify it, or to insist it continue to be the foundation of secular law.
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No profiting on the blood, sweat, and tears of others from others just because you can.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[....]the positive aspects of Christianity is just our natural humanity.
To that I add, we don't need the middle men, never did.

You know, I've always argued that exact point - the Bible's all well and good with a lot of it's messages an' all - but I'm not religious in the slightest - never have been, and neither has my family. Yet still I've always lived by my own (what I feel to be built-in) moral codes, which strangly coincide with much of what most religions preach. But I never needed any 'holy book' or preacher to tell me about it - it's just *me*, y'know?

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