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Aniam



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumpl4skn wrote:
You belong to an obscure religious sect that forbids the recognition of sarcasm.


Although our sect could very well be considered obscure by most people's standards, I am not forbidden to recognize anything. You asked a question, and I answered it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aniam wrote:
rumpl4skn wrote:
You belong to an obscure religious sect that forbids the recognition of sarcasm.


Although our sect could very well be considered obscure by most people's standards, I am not forbidden to recognize anything. You asked a question, and I answered it.

So, I guess I just struck you as the type who believes in shit like The Rapture. Laughing

Man, I gotta take off this 700 Club t-shirt.

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Aniam



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rumpl4skn wrote:
So, I guess I just struck you as the type who believes in shit like The Rapture.


Not necessarily. I simply addressed the fallacy of it because you brought it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the 'Untied Reformed Church of the Bypassed Sense of Humour'

Praise be to them - amen. Just avoid their coffee mornings - it's like a bloody morgue in there, I tell you.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aniam wrote:

Not necessarily. I simply addressed the fallacy of it because you brought it up.

I appreciate that.

Tomorrow we'll discuss the Pope's religious affiliation, how Ursus arctos tends to defecate in wooded areas, and whether or not Rose Kennedy ever owned a black dress.

Okay, I'll stop now. Points taken, decision pending.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alain Jourgensen (Ministry) had it right too.

Congregation, please be seated and open your prayer guides to the book
Of revelations, psalm 69

Drinking the blood of jesus
Drinking it right from his veins
Learning to swim in the ocean
Learning to prowl in his name

The body of christ looked unto me
A preacher with god-given hands
He wants you to suck on the holy ghost
And swallow the sins of man

Psalm 69

The invisible piss of the holy ghost
Comes down like acid rain
Theyre making a bonnet of terminal guilt
The scavengers go on parade

The fathers who write that eternity
Is used to fight the sword
Have filled you up with the devils cock
And hell come in the name of the lord

The way to succeed and the way to suck eggs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNrFCXHD0k&mode=related&search=

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Evangelist admits buying meth but denies sex

By Steven Saint

[Steven Saint? Are you fucking kidding????!!!!!]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Reuters)

Embattled evangelist Ted Haggard admitted on Friday to buying the drug methamphetamine and seeking a massage from a gay male prostitute but denied he had sex with the man or used the stimulant.

Haggard, a vocal opponent of gay marriage, resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals on Thursday after being accused by a male escort of having had a sexual relationship with him and using meth.

"I did call him. I called him to buy some meth. But I threw it away. I was buying it for me but I never used it," Haggard, who looked uneasy as he sat in a car with his wife, said in an interview with KUSA TV in Colorado broadcast on CNN.

Asked if he had sex with his accuser, he replied tersely, "No I did not." He said he had sought the man out at a Denver hotel for a "massage."

Haggard said he stayed at a number of hotels in Denver because he went to the city to write.

Evangelicals said they were praying for Haggard but were troubled by the situation.

"This is a blow as the National Association of Evangelicals is a significant organization for us. We would always want to lift up a high standard of conduct for church leaders," said Gary Ledbetter, the director of communications for the Dallas-based Southern Baptists of Texas Convention.

The NAE is composed of 60 member denominations representing 45,000 churches across the United States.

Haggard also temporarily stepped down as senior pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs.

"I have put myself on an extended suspension [ooooh, kinky! Very Happy ] from my senior pastor's role. I've resigned from the NAE -- because both of these roles are based on trust and right now my trust is questionable," he said. [You don't fucking say!!!!!]

POSTER BOY

With his chiseled features and wide smile, Haggard was a poster boy for the evangelical movement and social conservative causes. Harper's magazine reported he had regularly advised the White House.

White House spokesman Tony Fratto said on Friday Haggard had been on a couple of evangelical calls with the White House, "but was not a weekly participant in those calls. I believe he's been at the White House one or two times."

Conservative Christians are a support base for the Republican Party and President George W. Bush. Evangelical leaders have been urging the faithful to vote on Tuesday with polls showing Republicans set to lose control of one and perhaps both houses of Congress.

They also have encouraged conservative voters in eight states including Colorado to support proposed amendments to ban same-sex nuptials.

Some evangelicals expressed suspicion at the timing of the accusations so close to the elections.

"We've been praying that the whole truth will come out, either way. Even if Mike Jones (Haggard's accuser) is telling the truth, it seems weird that this is coming out five days before an election," said Chris Uhles, an evangelical lay minister based in Colorado Springs, a major center of evangelical activity.

Some analysts said they saw little impact at the polls.

"People have settled their opinions of Republicans and Democrats and this is especially true of evangelicals. It's come too late to have an impact on the poll," said Scott Keeter of the PEW Research Center.

The episode has revived memories of the financial and sex scandals that brought down two of the most prominent televangelists of the 1980s, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart.

(Additional reporting by Ed Stoddard in Dallas)


Here's an interesting link:

http://ncrnews.org/abuse/

atm Shocked Exclamation


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His "trust is questionable." I think he's being unduly hard on himself.

(Oops, the use of "hard on" in there was purely coincidental.)

Btw, atm, that's the best avatar yet. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: TED HAGGARD "SPEAKS IN TONGUES," Reply with quote

TED HAGGARD "SPEAKS IN TONGUES," sees visions and talks to
God in quiet times the way Frank Buchman did.

Ted Haggard is a leader of The Arlington Group, founded by
Paul Weyrich -- the national coordinating executive for the
deployment of anti-homosexual initiatives for Republican Party
advantage, such as the current ballot initiative in Virginia, and
that in Ohio in 2004.

Haggard heads the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)
based in Colorado Springs, in tandem with and down the street
from The Navigators, a prime agency in the religious conversion
of President George W. Bush. NAE and the Navigators cooperate
with James Dobson's Focus on the Family and other groups, all
based in Colorado Springs, CO, clustered around the U.S. Air
Force Academy. The Navigators spun off the Promise Keepers, and
developed the curriculum that was used in the Texas men's group
to which George W. Bush belonged in his conversion to fundamentalism.

Ted Haggard's political status with Bush and Karl Rove is
described in this excerpt from a 2004 {Wall Street Journal}
article (Elizabeth Bernstein, "All the Candidates' Clergy", WSJ, Aug. 13, 2004):

"Like many pastors, the Rev. Ted Haggard has a packed
schedule ... But in his Palm Pilot, next to an electronic copy of
the Bible, Mr. Haggard has one Monday appointment that stands
out: `3 p.m.: White House.' It's a weekly conference call Mr.
Haggard dials into that's led by Tim Goeglein, the White House's
liaison to the conservative community, and includes prominent
religious leaders. `We have direct access,' says Mr. Haggard,
senior pastor of the giant New Life Church in Colorado Springs,
Colo. `I can call [Mr. Goeglein], he'll take my concern to the
president and get back to me in 24 hours.'

"... The Rev. Ted Haggard ... founded New Life with 20
members in 1985, after having a vision of the church while
fasting for three days atop Pikes Peak. Today, the church has
11,000 members, and is building one of the largest church
sanctuaries in the state. Mr. Haggard, president of the 30
million-member National Evangelical Association, speaks
nationally against abortion and in favor of the war in Iraq, as well as other topics.

"The weekly conference call with the White House lets Mr.
Haggard, 48, give the administration `the pulse of the
evangelical world,' he says. One recent Monday, he says, the
discussion centered on Sen. Kerry's post-convention polling
(participants were delighted there was no large `bump'). `It's
useful to communicate,' he says.

"On Sept. 19, [Haggard] will co-host a two-hour broadcast
encouraging viewers to make it to the polls and to call their
congressional representatives in support of the Federal Marriage
Amendment, which would ban same-sex marriages. The show will be
carried on three Christian television networks and as many as
1,500 Christian radio stations.

"Meanwhile, Mr. Haggard makes no secret of his support of
President Bush. Of the three framed pictures hanging outside his
office, two are of himself and the president. (The other is of
himself and Mel Gibson, who pre-screened `The Passion of Christ'
at a conference organized by Mr. Haggard.)"

In the recently published memoir by former White House
official David Kuo, {Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political
Seduction}, it is reported that Karl Rove and George Bush worked
very closely with evangelical leaders such as Ted Haggard and
James Dobson for political reasons, but privately thought that
they were crazy religious fanatics. Rove reportedly referred to
Haggard and Dobson as "the nuts."

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing warms my heart as much as self-righteous hypocrites being dragged through the streets by their genitals.

It seems as though this society places virtue above freedom, and holds moral decency at a higher value than individual liberty.

The problem with religion in the end is that it is self-serving, and is used as a tool to control and manipulate the masses.

There are still large numbers of Americans who need religious leaders to tell them what to think and believe in order to feel secure.

Unfortunately, they require the rest of the nation to believe in their twisted codependent idealogy in order to validate their choices.

This is why the concepts of individual choice in personal issues bothers them the most. This is also why there are so many ridiculous reality TV shows on the air. The religious right has incorporated a toxic form of shame into their belief system, and are constantly projecting their self-loathing onto the rest of society.

They cling to conservatism as though it represents some moral high ground and refute all things liberal as being unGodly and demonic.

The root of the word liberal is liberty.

The root of conservative is con man.

The Christian Right is neither Christian nor Right.



btw, pretty nice election results last week, I must say.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: It's fun to stay at the........ Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumpl, you are a very disturbed individual.

















..., and I approve that message Laughing

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