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Fintan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: NewsXtra Audio: The People Versus Big Oil Reply with quote



'Ireland should not negotiate away it's environment for the sake of a few jobs..''
Dr Owens Wiwa, brother of of executed Nigerian poet Ken Saro Wiwa


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Police baton-charge pipeline protesters

News.com.au - November 10, 2006 08:51pm

IRISH police baton-charged protesters at a Royal Dutch Shell gas
terminal in the west of Ireland today after about 200 people blocked a
convoy of vehicles taking construction workers to the site.


One man was taken to hospital following running clashes between police
and protestors that lasted for more than an hour, Irish broadcaster RTE said.

Shell is locked in a dispute with local residents about a pipeline they plan
to build to bring gas onshore. Local residents want Shell to process the
gas on an offshore shallow water platform instead of onshore.

Five men, known as the Rossport 5, last year spent almost 100 days in
jail for protesting against the project, which they said ran too close to
their homes.

Shell's partners in the offshore Corrib gas field are Norway's Statoil and
US-based Marathon Oil Corp.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20736539-1702,00.html



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We are the Shell to Sea network
http://www.corribsos.com/index.php?id=2&type=page

Violent clashes in Bellanaboy
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=604&Itemid=38



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The pressure inside the pipeline will be up to four times greater than that of the biggest Bord Gais pipelines. The pipeline will be going through boggy land with a history of landslides.

Yay! What a capital idea! Also not worried about 'terrorists' getting to it, either, I see. :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Shell in Mayo: A New Nigeria? Reply with quote

Check out this short film to get the background to the case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLpDmh4BU8w

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: The End of big oil? Reply with quote

Who needs oil or gas anyway?

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1


In the flesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An attempt to distract from the issue, if I mistake it not.

So it's ok for government's to give away sovereign resources for nothing then? Good to know.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that you're not being serious with that, rabbiosi?

If you've got shares in Perendev rotors, I'd sell 'em now, if I were you.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is the road to Shell
~ Chris Rhea



Smacks of "Americanization". International Corporate interests endorsed and enforced by sovereign government--who provides the muscle. (aka Corporate Fascism).
Police raid paid for with Irish public taxes, of course.
I believe Shell doesn't pay taxes....

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The End of big oil? Reply with quote

rabbiosi wrote:
Who needs oil or gas anyway?

http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1

In the flesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOl_1S10jTk

Would be very nice indeed.... if electric cars weren't another scam by the energy industry. Electricity needs to be generated, and when you take in account the transfer from oil to kilowatts, those cars run at 1/5th the efficiency of gasoline.

So, they feign dismay at a product that essentially generates 5 times the consumption.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Looking for alternatives Reply with quote

Shell and Co?s business practices are appalling but whilst the global thirst for oil continues to increase their raison d'etre will not diminish. Alternatives to oil / gas are needed together with pressure on the supra national oil corporations.

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Electricity needs to be generated, and when you take in account the transfer from oil to kilowatts, those cars run at 1/5th the efficiency of gasoline


Fair enough but oil is not the only way to generate electricity.

Maybe the Tesla roadster is a red herring but rest assured that oil corporations are expending vast efforts in eliminating the emergence of alternatives to oil.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Looking for alternatives Reply with quote

rabbiosi wrote:
Maybe the Tesla roadster is a red herring but rest assured that oil corporations are expending vast efforts in eliminating the emergence of alternatives to oil.

Of course. But also rest assured - if any "alternative" does make it to the public consciousness, and the Big Oil boys are openly "agin it", it's probably a scam.

It's the same way the bankers sold us the Federal Reserve system.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh guys...

Just because the vehicle has "Tesla" in it's name, doesn't automatically mean it has ANYTHING to do with Nicola Tesla, or "free energy" systems for that matter.
It's just a regular battery powered car. They are using his name for marketing purposes.

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Would be very nice indeed.... if electric cars weren't another scam by the energy industry.


Not exactly... Lots of electricity can be generated using a variety of low-tech, and non-fossil methods, which I am quite intimate with.

Hydrogen fuel cell = scam (must buy "fuel" from big producer/supplier)
Electric powered = NOT scam = open to anyone who can generate power

Electric vehicles have been around for decades, and have barely been given the light-of day by the MSM. Recently ranges of 250Km are not out of the question.

Here is a step-by-step to the conversion of one such vehicle...
Check this out http://www.metricmind.com/

And there are many many out there. Currently there are kits available to do electric conversions for the DIYer, http://www.electroauto.com/ and there are a plethora of electric vehicle owner associations all over the world.

In my mind, electric is the ONLY method which allows the average person to actually be the producer and supplier of their own power.

There are many companies around that are currently SWAMPED doing these conversions (for about $25K) (I have a friend that has succesfully done a diesel conversion, and the electric conversion is now being hashed about. This is common stuff!)

See also the http://nedra.com/ National Electric Drag Racing Association for kicks.

I don't yet see a connection as to how big-oil will make money out of this, unless they are going to be getting part of the "milage tax" that is being slowly implemented, in anticipation of the day when vehicles won't need combustibles to function.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elbowdeep wrote:
Hydrogen fuel cell = scam (must buy "fuel" from big producer/supplier)
Electric powered = NOT scam = open to anyone who can generate power

Yes, you are totally correct. But we must talk in terms of "the masses". How many people are going to generate their own power to charge their electric car batteries? .001%?

You can easily put solar cells on your roof and get free energy. How many actually do it? There are always some pioneering souls who undertake these kinds of procedures, but in the energy industry bottom line, they will always be an infinitesimal minority.

The point is, the overwhelming majority are going to plug the sucker into their house AC outlet, meaning - the oil, coal and nuclear fuel their local utility company uses to generate the power is the source. And the car is going to run essentially at a fraction of the efficiency of a gas-powered car.

Which is MORE profit for the energy industry scum, who are acting like they hate these cars.

Methinks they dost profit too much. Confused

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