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MichaelC

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: Russian spy 'poisoning': What's the real scoop? |
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I'm pretty sure it's not what we are being told on CNN.
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zak247

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| I don’t know Mike, but those guys seem kind of wild. Shooting each other down on the streets like dogs, poisoning each other with radioactive devices at sushi bars, at least they have got their own style |
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matt

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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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i literally accidentally tuned into the end of channel 5 (UK) news last night and they said traces of radiation found at his home *(i think that's what they were saying) - and possibly they said something about some posession or the home of his friend showed radiation traces
welcome to the John ReID reich (he used to hang around with Radovan Karadzic don't you know) read more here _________________ all things will proceed according to the whim of the great turtle |
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Hocus Locus

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 846 Location: Lost in anamnesis, cannot forget my way out
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Someone just 'retired' Litvinenko [today]
Someone doesn't like Putin. [1998-today]
Someone wants us to be afraid, generally.[today]
Someone wants us to be afraid, specifically of radiation. [today]
Someone "doesn't care" about collateral exposure at sushi bar and hotel. [today]
Someone likes to use allegations of 'anti-semitism' as a weapon.[in 1998, if they wrote the script]
Someone had a loose end to clean up. [done?]
This guy sounds like a real doofus, someone I wouldn't hire to assasinate a goldfish. I find it difficult to believe that in 1998, FSB would give him an assignment, then "threaten him" is he failed to carry it out? Then stand back while he goes and spills the beans on Russian TV?
No, if FSB had ordered Litvinenko to kill anybody and he was going to expose them like that, he would have been boom! gone, then.
HOWEVER, someone could have hired him in 1998 to go public with an (untrue) strory of a (never happened) order to kill a prominent Russian Jew (who was never in danger). The formula anti-semite comment is sweet, someone in the FSB is (falsely) quoted as saying that refusal to carry out the order wouold "preventing patriots from the motherland from killing a Jew who robbed half his country"
Who writes this stuff?
Whose loose end was this?
Mossad?
EDIT: or someone trying to implicate them ( but isn't that Always The Case :) , someone who would have had a motive to do so in 1998. The "patriots from the motherland" quote (obviously literal trans from Russian) sounds a bit campy, but in the USSR they do use direct emotional fervor when debating politics, sort of a Nation of Alex Joneses.
Still the question: if there is a 'who' behind the 'rise of anti-semitism in Russia today' then who for what purpose? I am a firm believer in the precept that unless something political or economic has been demonstrably seething, or someone with an agenda is weilding the blunt club of hate, people usually pick other than race/origin issues to get excited about. Because I neither believe in 'original sin' nor 'original hate'.
| Quote: | 1-Jul-1999 Moscow Times Editorial
EDITORIAL: Leave Voting To Citizens, Not Chekists
On Tuesday, Prime Minister Sergei Stepashin addressed a meeting of the
Federal Security Service. His message: FSB agents have a crucial role to play
this winter in keeping undesirable elements from being elected to the
parliament.
We would disagree with the prime minister's assertion entirely. Let the
voters decide who should be in the parliament.
It's hard to imagine a situation in any democracy where the security services
should be encouraged to place their own political judgments above those of
the electorate. But it's even harder when that security service is the
not-so-reformed former KGB. This is the same organization that in April
offered parliament its cheeky and unsolicited opinion that the Duma's drive
to impeach President Boris Yeltsin was illegal.
Stepashin told his Chekists that "criminals" are about to slip into the Duma
through the December elections and called for vigilance. Now, again, this is
the same FSB that earlier this year was torn between two camps -- each of them
accusing the other of running organized crime rings within the agency.
Alexander Litvinenko and two other former FSB agents told a national
television audience they had been instructed by superiors to assassinate
Russia's best-known political intriguer, tycoon Boris Berezovsky. Amid
giggles and criminal slang, the three also bragged of their own exploits,
which included kidnapping, torture and killings.
So no matter how one parses this, it seems that the FSB is having a problem
keeping contract killers out of its ranks. How is it going to keep more
run-of-the-mill criminals out of the entire national political scene?
For that matter, why should we trust Stepashin when he publicly wrings his
hands about organized crime creeping into politics? Isn't this the same
Stepashin who, as interior minister, airily announced he would ignore an
arrest order for Berezovsky issued by the prosecutor general? We are not
making a commentary here on Berezovsky, only on Stepashin's sense of duty --
here was the nation's No. 1 police officer, defiantly brushing aside orders
from the prosecutor. Berezovsky will come in his own good time and "explain
matters," was how Stepashin put it. (After this performance - to say nothing -
of Chechnya - how could self-described "democrats" applaud Stepashin as prime
minister?)
Stepashin has been vague about how FSB vigilance might translate into action.
However, he has put forward one concrete task: to keep these elections
"clean" of kompromat, compromising materials. But what is kompromat - except
evidence of criminal wrongdoing on the part of government officials that
finds its way into the news media? And what can the FSB do to stop this,
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| Quote: | The Independent 18 November 1998
Russian spies 'running protection rackets' By Phil Reeves in Moscow
RUSSIA'S SECRET service, successor to the KGB, is being used to carry out assassinations, seize hostages and extort money from big business, agents have claimed.
In an extraordinary public appearance, Federal Security Bureau (FSB) officers said the agency was being used "to settle accounts with undesirable persons, to carry out private political and criminal orders for a fee, and sometimes simply as an instrument to earn money". The men, several wearing reflective sunglasses and one clad in a black balaclava, unveiled their allegations at a press conference in Moscow, plunging the agency into one of its more serious, and mysterious, post-Soviet scandals.
"Our aim is to draw public attention to the deviations in the work of the Federal Security Bureau that are exceedingly dangerous for society and which have become features of its activities," they said in a statement. "We do not want the shadow of the criminal actions of a number of officials to be cast on the service and its honest officers." The statement was signed by two colonels, two majors and a senior lieutenant.
Security officers publicly attacking their bosses is unheard-of in post-Soviet Russia, and immediately dominated television news headlines, casting a shadow over the meeting in Moscow between President Boris Yeltsin and the German Chancellor, Gerhard Schroder.
In recent years, reports have regularly linked organised crime and the FSB, which has suffered from low morale, poor pay and a brain drain, following the break-up of the far larger KGB. Thousands of ex-KGB agents have taken paid jobs in the shady world of Russian business and banking.
Some media reports have linked FSB elements with contract killings, bombings and hostage-taking. But this is the first time that officers, apparently from the heart of the security system, have so openly spelt out allegations of top level corruption.
They acknowledged that they risked reprisals. "We were told, 'we will first boot you out of the service and then stifle you like pups'," said Lt-Col Alexander Litvinenko.
The most dramatic revelation has been the men's claim that a senior FSB officer ordered the colonel to kill Boris Berezovsky, one of Russia's top business and media magnates, who played a leading role in releasing two British hostages in September. Lt-Col Litvinenko, Mr Berezovsky's former bodyguard, claimed he did not carry out the order, which he received last December, because he regarded it as illegal.
The colonel said as a result he was assaulted, received death threats and was threatened with prosecution. In May, media reports accused him and his colleagues of being involved in murders, assaults, torture and extortion.
Lt-Col Litvinenko claimed one FSB officer also accused him of "preventing patriots from the motherland from killing a Jew who robbed half his country". Mr Berezovsky has Jewish roots, an issue that has acquired significance because of the resurgence of anti-Semitism in Russia.
Another officer, Major Andrei Ponkin, yesterday claimed that in late 1977 the FSB leadership planned to kidnap the brother of a prominent Moscow businessman, Umar Dzhebrailov, Hussein, then take him to a country house. "In case of resistance ... we were ordered to kill the policemen who guarded him and then kill him, as one of the options," he said. The order was never carried out.
The agents argue that these were not isolated incidents. "The order to assassinate ... Berezovsky, unfortunately, is not an exceptional event in the present life of the FSB," said their statement. The director of the Federal Security Bureau, Vladimir Putin, has confirmed that Russia's chief military prosecutor's office is investigating the Berezovsky case. But he has also threatened to sue accusers if their claims prove groundless.
The officers have stressed the director is not their target and the agency's problems began under his predecessor, General Nikolai Kovalyov. claims prove groundless. The officers have stressed the director is not their target and the agency's problems began under his predecessor, General Nikolai Kovalyov. |
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matt

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:02 am Post subject: |
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quite so, Hocus, turtles turtles everywhere
nice angle, always looked like another a scare-op, but i didn't have the info that you have just added
this also makes sense of this hammy acting here raised by Turner _________________ all things will proceed according to the whim of the great turtle |
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MichaelC

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The story must be very important to the NWO because they are really running it into the ground - as in "ad nauseum". |
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Hocus Locus

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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Good read on modern nuclear threats.
>> AVERTING ARMAGEDDON: PREVENTING NUCLEAR TERRORISM IN THE UNITED STATES
>> Duke University (author undiscovered, seems to meticulously cite everyone but themself)
Haven't gotten through it but any document that starts with
It is difficult to swim in hydrochloric acid with your legs chopped off. ~Russian General Alexander Lebed
has my attention already. Like the T-shirt in Russian in Sum of All Fears: "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to catch up." Probably available in all languages. There is a coorelation to another joke I have heard,
RUNNER #1: Faster! Or we'll never outrun the bear!
RUNNER #2: I don't need to outrun the bear -- I just need to outrun you.
With nukes as well as biology, it's natural (even noble) to come up with theories that attempt to show that modern science has created a monster. Because someday it will, and scientists will throw the carcass, evidence and cultures into a river upstream from your location, and burn their notes. Unlike Doctor Phibes, whose (hydrofluoric?) acid pit absorbed countless mistakes without incident.
I found the document while attempting to get a reality check on the 'isotope skip trace' method used in Sum of All Fears, here is what I found. It looks like it's real enough... no doubt the rougue nuke nightmares is at least half a century old. Curious as to whether the 'records' are mirrored anywhere. Probably not, so you can expect a successful database lookup only if it is a 'good' thing. A step in some direction, still better than lack of direction at all. As to whether Litvinenko's is traceable, who knows.
Hocus's Razor for Nuclear Science: unless you are able to successfully replicate the experiment in your own basement, don't rest complete faith in laboratory results.
| Quote: | H. Tracing the Bomb to its Origin
The ability to trace a nuclear weapon, detonated or not, back to its point of origin could restore the aegis of deterrence. If potential attackers are aware that their handiwork can and will be traced, they might think twice due to fear of retaliation.300 Even in the case of a stolen weapon, the United States could identify a country which lacked adequate controls on the security of its weapons.
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory has begun studying how to determine the origin of a nuclear bomb after detonation to track unattributed terrorist attacks.301 Despite the power of the atom, little matter is actually destroyed in an atomic explosion, meaning that traces of fissile material and bomb components will remain, though they may be difficult to reach in a radioactive environment.302 NEST members or other experts can use special equipment to locate those fissile material fragments among the rubble. Once the fragments, possibly no bigger than dust particles, are recovered, they can be analyzed. Samples can be placed in a gamma-ray spectrometer, which identifies elements and isotopes.303 The pit, or physics package, of a nuclear warhead is mostly plutonium or uranium, but other elements and isotopes will be present. Among them could be tritium, U-240, neptunium, americium, gadolinium, curium, and promethium.304 The presence of these substances, and the ratios in which they are present, can indicate the source of the fissile material in a nuclear device. Some of the isotopes are impurities inherent in the enrichment process, indicating which enrichment process was involved, something else to provide clues. Other isotopes could indicate where the pre-enrichment fissile [*pg 125] material in the bomb was mined.305 Each of these traits is a clue to the bomb's origin.
The IAEA keeps detailed records of fissile material production runs and the exact ratios of elements and isotopes present in any given year's output.306 But these records are only kept for those facilities under IAEA safeguard, which excludes the five official nuclear powers and nonsignatories to the NPT (i.e. Israel), as well as facilities operated in a covert manner, outside the scope of IAEA monitoring. 307 The United States supposedly keeps such records of its own fissile material output, 308 and it is likely that Britain and France do as well. Russian records may not be as good, and even if they are, the Russians may not want to share them in the aftermath of a terrorist incident, as the revelation that the United States was attacked with misappropriated Russian material would be enormously embarrassing to Moscow. (Right, unlike Israel, whose very existence of its robust weapons program has always been a open and sincere) Still, records from the United States and other countries can serve to narrow the gap by ruling out certain sources, and not all clues require access to such records. Again, scientists may be able to determine the geographical origin of fissile material by tracing impurities to particular uranium mines. (Sounds like a best maybe 'only' bet. We need volunteers to go collect samples! You first.). The makeup of fissile material also indicates which enrichment process was involved, something else to provide clues.
Given all of the above, one way to trace nuclear weapons would be to tag fissile materials.309 Just as conventional explosives can be marked with paper taggants or unique chemical combinations,310 nuclear materials could be similarly modified by altering the ratios of isotopes so that a bomb was easily identifiable. A multilateral treaty with all nuclear weapons powers could mandate that each country use a particular ratio of isotopes so that nuclear weapons and fissile material outputs are easily identifiable.
But even if the experts are able to determine the bomb's origin, the question remains: Then what? The weapon's origin is certainly a valuable clue, but the perpetrators are still unidentified. Was the bomb stolen? Purchased? By whom? The cooperation of officials from suspected countries would be crucial to answer such questions. [*pg 126] Thus, while tracing a bomb to its manufacturer will certainly be helpful in aiding investigators and restoring deterrence, it will not in itself solve the problem presented. |
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| Quote: | CONTENTS
I. INTRODUCTION
II. THE THREAT: WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING?
A. The Changing Nature of Terror
B. Special Delivery -- Getting the Bomb to the Target
III. THE THREAT: ACQUIRING THE BOMB
A. The Basics of Bomb Building
B. Prolific Proliferation
C. Loose Nukes -- The U.S.S.R.'s Going-Out-of-Business Sale
D. The Brain Drain: Weapons Designers for Hire
E. Shopping Wholesale -- The Civilian Market
F. A Messy Alternative: Radiological Weapons
IV. THE THREAT: FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN
A. A Note on Threat Credibility and Terrorist Demands
B. Deterrence Failure
V. COUNTERMEASURES
A. Intelligence
B. Covert Operations
C. Counterproliferation
D. Safeguarding Nuclear Facilities
E. Controlling Loose Nukes and Brain Drains
F. Technology Options for Bomb Security
G. NEST
H. Tracing the Bomb to its Origin
VI. THE FUTURE: PROSPECTS AND PRESCRIPTIONS
A. Counter-Terrorism: Hit the Sponsors
B. U.S. Security
C. More Proliferation: The Expanding Nuclear Club
D. The New Deterrence and a Comprehensive Policy
VII. CONCLUSION
FOOTNOTES |
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Hocus Locus

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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| MichaelC wrote: | | The story must be very important to the NWO because they are really running it into the ground - as in "ad nauseum". |
Well Mossad does keep track of people, even in exile, they do supply names for general purposes (the '9/11 hijackers' list with the poor Egyptian pilots whose identities were borrowed); Litvinenko not generally beloved by his FSB employers, but they didn't snub him in 1998 either.
Note that his smear of FSB in 1998 had "one senior officer" "one officer", note the seriousness of the charge and the 'unprecedented' nature of his action, yet lack of names or even actual position titles given. If you are a whistleblower in fear of your life and only have one chance, you take the gambit and get the names out there so if you meet an untimely accident there are real people to call in to answer questions.
It seems he was someone who didn't carry any deep secrets on his person (evidence: survival) who suddenly came out with these (untrue) allegations. That would pique the interest of FSB who would be watching him closely, more curious as to who his handlers were than anything else. In today's context then he would just be a has-been warm body who was chosen to deliver a radioactive message to the World, (be Very Afraid), one for whom the press's portrayal as an 'ex-spy', notice they tend to drop the 'ex', makes it even sexier... brought down by the most Rube Goldberg yet 007-thriller-keen method of killing someone that has ever been concieved. Something Dr. Phibes would do. With a little more flair, even.
Think it, there are so many ways to kill people, even ways to kill people if you want it to be obvious murder to send out a 'message'. They chose this? This stuff has a half-life of 130 some days, but that's the time it takes to decrease by half, and it's a logarithmic curve, it could be detectable for years.
There's no way I can slice this except as a anti-nuclear psyop, to make people generally afraid of all things nuclear and radioactive.
A number of the lung cancers in the US that had been attributred to 'second-hand smoke' (by desparate assumption mostly) may in fact have been radon gas buildup in homes. Because radon is odorless and invisible, and smokers aren't.
Many homes were refitted with moden insulation, using IR imagers to seal every cracks, to keep heat in Winter during the 70s energy crisis. After such treatment, healthy homes with plenty of natural ventilation became stagnant air traps. The thermal treatment not sufficient to keep radon out (you need a complete hemetic seal below ground)... Radon occurs in all 50 states, is heavier than air, one crack in the foundation or around a water pipe is all it takes.
Radon is something people should be concerned about, especially those with children.
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And I just spotted Jerry the Bellybutton Elf.
At least we know where we are now. |
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Ormond

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I think I see where they're going with this one.
I've got a post on my take on the latest spin on it, that's been going on for two days. It's all about changing public perception of the displaced YUKOS 'oligarchs'. But I followed the case in detail since it first came out in October 2003. Most people in the West didn't.
I heard it reinforced on NPR this evening, and I'm certain it's running hard in the MSM. The source is the French press.
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1364&sid=d54a37987a9ad37bca0faa832bc4a3a4
Big stakes here, huge stakes. Russia seized back Russian oil. Since then, their scientists and government haven't been chiming in with the 'Peak Oil' and 'Global Warming' agendas.
| Quote: | | there are so many ways to kill people, even ways to kill people if you want it to be obvious murder to send out a 'message'. They chose this? ~ Hocus Locus |
Murder by radioactive poisoning is just so over the top it's obvious the killers were deliberately wildly exotic. It's the 'sexiest' murder in a long while---rates in weirdness with the hanging of that banker in the P-2 Lodge hung with bricks in his pockets from a London Bridge back in the early 80's.
Such murders are designed to stick in the press...
The sensationalist murder with a twist worthy of Ian Fleming was just the clarion call to get max public attention to the story---so people will pay attention when they deliver the real psyop revisionist message. Putin 'bad', Oligarchs 'good'.
Well, Putin's bad, but that doesn't make the Yukos tools poor innocent victims.
This is to restore the image that the oligarchs were the champions of 'democracy' in Russia. They want the oil monopoly back. Then suddenly Russian scientists will concur with global warming theory, and Peak Oil. _________________ The anticipated never happens. The unexpected constantly occurs |
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Hocus Locus

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Now I am getting seriously creeped out. It appears that I have a doppelthinker at a spookly place called OPORD Analytical, "The Premier Intelligence Company". My 'Loose end' message was 26-Nov, this page dated 24-Nov-2006 @ 2:05pm -- didn't peek, honest! Found it an hour ago.
If Putin is under seige, who? And who would benefit if Russia's bid to join WTO is parried due to scandal? A successor? An international adversary? This is a power play in real time. the nuclear poison fear card has been up someone's sleeve, someone has just played it.
With a crisis tying FSB & Russian Mafia & Putin as stooges, could Russia be poised to go from mice to lions? Or is putin a cat, dog or elephant? It's animals all the way down. Something about this is vaguely reminicient of Jimmy Carter's final days. Not sure how, might be brain swamp gas.
| Quote: | Litvinenko: Friday, November 24, 2006
Litvinenko
Friday, November 24, 2006
Alexander Litvinenko, a former Colonel with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), died of Polonium 210 poisoning at University College Hospital in London as a victim of assassination. Litvinenko was also a former soldier with the Russian Army. Litvinenko defected to England after he claimed that sinister forces loyal to Russian President Vladimir Putin were plotting to murder him.
The recent news stories about Alexander Litvinenko’s assassination are deliberate fabrications and misinformation. While no defender of President Putin by any stretch of the imagination, I must tackle a deeper psychological operations construct that has appeared in the international media regarding Alexander Litvinenko so the facts regarding this individual can be looked at critically.
First, when Alexander Litvinenko learned that he was poisoned he admitted that he was meeting with “sources” in London that had specific information about the assassination of former journalist Anna Politkovskaya in Moscow on October 7, 2006. Alexander Litvinenko was a very vocal proponent of the theory that the Kremlin ordered the assassination of Politkovskaya because she was trying to tie together a story that the Putin government had an official torture policy in the war in Chechnya. Now where does that sound familiar?
Alexander Litvinenko, himself a vocal critic of Putin’s government in Moscow, repeatedly told the international media apparatus since his defection to London that there was no possible method that Chechen terrorists could have planned and then executed the Moscow apartment bombings that occurred on September 8, 1999, September 13, 1999, and September 16, 1999, which paved the way for President Putin to order military action against Chechen terrorists in Chechnya.
In fact, Litvinenko also made the claim that the Putin government itself staged the bombings as a prelude to war in the breakaway republic of Chechnya. Again, where does that sound familiar?
Take a look at Alexander Litvinenko’s book synopsis for his conspiracy theorist book “Blowing up Russia: Terror From Within”, S.P.I. Books (March 1, 2002), ISBN: 1561719382.
“The war in Chechnya has made human life cheap in Russia. The brutal killings and the trade in slaves and hostages have thrown our country back to the days of slavery. Thousands of people who go through the war in Chechnya are forced to kill. They can never go back to civilian life.”
According to Alexander Litvinenko, military veterans that serve in times of war: “can never go back to civilian life”? Now where have we heard that before! The quick answer is revolutionary communist organizations that oppose the free-state from defending itself from outside aggression. In graduate school when I was mastering revolutionary theory I studied this psyop because it is widely used against US veterans of war. The psyop basically goes something like this:
“A professional soldier that has served in a military force of a democratic nation-state is salvageable, provided that the soldier has not engaged in direct combat action against outside aggressors. The professional soldier of a democracy that has engaged in direct combat action against aggressors is the individual that is unsalvageable to Marxism because those professional soldiers can never be convinced of the theory and necessity of Utopia. What this means then is that “something must be done”-these individuals can never go back to civilian life.”
I have seen first-hand this logic applied at the university-level. It also accounts for the terrible and unjustified discrimination that many veterans of the US Armed forces experience when they leave military service and is a product of the vast intellectual base internationally that is hostile to the idea of America.
Alexander Litvinenko’s book description then is that of deliberate and functional communism and the Marxist’s desire to dismantle all military forces of the free-state. That is precisely what the ideology linguistics of his book description means. It is coded language to announce his loyalty to the far-left ideology.
Regardless of Alexander Litvinenko’s credentials, the facts as the media portray them do not add up. Litvinenko was arrested by the FSB in 1999, on what he claimed were “trumped up charges” and then he was released. After the Moscow apartment buildings were destroyed in a string of terrorist attacks by Chechen terrorists, it is predictable that the FSB would arrest one of their own if that individual was blaming the government for the terrorist attacks. Russia has always behaved that way, even as an emerging democracy. That does not mean that Russia orchestrated the attacks-it means that in the confusion in government following any terrorist attack upon it that agents of government that immediately blame the government itself for such activity may create dangerous national security conditions for the entire nation-state.
Alexander Litvinenko never provided proof of his assertions and they mirror the September 11, 2001, conspiracy theorist crowd that has emerged in the United States and the west since the al Qai’da terrorist attacks upon the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the doomed flight that crashed in a Pennsylvania field that was on its way to the White House to wipe out the Executive Branch of the US government. Even though film footage has been shown publicly that reveals Usama Bin Ladin meeting with the September 11, 2001, terrorists in Afghanistan at one of al Qai’da’s and the Taliban’s vast terrorist training camps, conspiracy theorists still perpetuate the fallacy that the US government was behind the September 11, 2001, attacks upon the American people.
The journalist Anna Politkovskaya’s slaying is demystified even easier. Politkovskaya was well-known for her investigative reporting of Russian organized crime elements in Russia and other locations, seedy and shadowy groups and other dangerous elements that may have wanted to do her harm. However, when she was assassinated outside her apartment in Moscow, it simply must have been due to her investigation of “state-sponsored torture” in Chechnya. According to the leftist media, no other explanation was credible and Russian organized crime would never eliminate Politkovskaya even though she worked tirelessly to expose their activities and the personalities that drove such elements. The fact is that Politkovskaya had many enemies, enemies that she fomented through her work as an investigative journalist. International media apparatuses that are hostile to democratization efforts by President Putin’s government and certainly hostile to the war in Chechnya took a different angle on the matter and dismissed all other possibilities as nonsensical. The only possible reason that Politkovskaya was assassinated was because of her investigative reporting on the use of Russian intelligence services against terrorism and the torture techniques those intelligence services were implementing against the Chechen terrorists in Chechnya.
Again, does this tired international media psyop sound all too familiar?
Of course it does. The hostile anti-Bush media has been after the Bush Administration for the same reasons that the international media and Alexander Litvinenko specifically have been trying to push their stories about Politkovskaya-US government intelligence activities in the War on Terrorism. Western media apparatuses reported that American detaining of terrorists amounted to the “Gulags of our times”. Criticisms of Putin’s efforts in Chechnya were just as severely treated by the international media.
All said and done however, the untimely deaths of Anna Politkovskaya and Alexander Litvinenko do feed directly into the anti-democratic conspiracy movement that has been attacking democracies in an unsympathetic way in favor of terrorism since September 11, 2001. The construct of these psychological operations used by the international media against those defending from transnational terrorism are very sophisticated.
Never mind the fact that Russia is on the verge of entering the World Trade Organization as a member state and would risk that by assassinating an FSB defector that set up shop in London perpetuating conspiracy theories. Also, never mind the fact that Moscow would order the assassination of an widely-known investigative journalist because of her “theories” on torture by Russian intelligence in Chechnya, while her investigations into Russian organized criminal elements on the other hand would never put her in harms way.
This is what the international media is selling.
The assassination of Alexander Litvinenko at this point and time has been played beautifully by the leftist media with great intrigue. Not only is the Putin government being blamed for the action, but the method of assassination has been changed from “Thallium” (to tie in the FSB), to a new and unknown “poison” (polonium 210) that doctors can’t even detect using every modern test known to the vast western medical community. This has been done to elevate Alexander Litvinenko’s standing from that of the defecting narcissist that really had no special knowledge or importance to western intelligence, to the “victim” of a specially designed plot that must have originated from a Cold War esque Moscow that sent covert agents into a foreign country to assassinate him. In fact, the plot must involve Moscow, according to the media, because the poison can’t even be detected by modern medicine, and that means that only a sophisticated intelligence service could develop such a substance at great expense and risk of detection when the assassination attempt was carried out. If this media psyop under way is to be believed then, we must also believe that modern medicine can find a single bone buried underneath the ground from 200 years ago and determine the age, gender and cause of death of the human being, but a living human being that has been poisoned and sent to the hospital and dies over a period of “weeks” is an “absolute mystery” that has “baffled” and “astonished” doctors in London’s premier hospital.
If you buy into the September 11, 2001, conspiracy theory crowd, the leftist media angle on the deaths of Alexander Litvinenko and Anna Politkovskaya are perfectly explained. In fact, their deaths are being explained in ways that match the conspiracy theory nonsense that is being perpetuated in the United States against the Bush Administration.
However, when the curtain is pulled back from the circumstances surrounding the deaths of these two individuals, a more ominous plot appears. The culprits behind the plot are unknown, but their intentions are clear-embarrass and damage the Putin government. In fact, one could even argue that these are meticulously planned events to unseat Putin’s government as the Bush Administration has been unseated in many ways, and even derail Russia’s chances for entry into the World Trade Organization and Russian counterterrorism efforts in Chechnya.
Media reports in the coming days that will announce sympathetic “investigations” into the death of Alexander Litvinenko will provide more clues about whom the real conspirators in this matter are and what their objectives are as well.
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Ormond

Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 1559 Location: Belly of the Beast, Texas
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| Quote: | | a spookly place called OPORD Analytical, "The Premier Intelligence Company". |
What a find. The OPORD article contains better intel and chronology that the comic book MSM nonsense on these cases, yet through the lens of Washing neocon indoctrinated intelligence analysts.
Alas, we outsiders have to plough through the 'politically correct' overlay of intelligence analyst sources, since they do present more bits of genuine intel than the ridiculous MSM reports. These fellows are intelligent and privy to some real intel, they have an attention span, and long term memory recall which enables them to recognize incidents over time as being part and parcel of long term psyops.
It's just annoying that we have to have critical faculties fully engaged when ferreting out real intel, as intelligence professionals are so throroughly indoctrinated in political correctness.
| Quote: | | If you buy into the September 11, 2001, conspiracy theory crowd, the leftist media angle on the deaths of Alexander Litvinenko and Anna Politkovskaya are perfectly explained. In fact, their deaths are being explained in ways that match the conspiracy theory nonsense that is being perpetuated in the United States against the Bush Administration. |
"conspiracy theory crowd, the leftist media angle..." He just has to throw that in. Reinforcing his own conditiong, and his neocon readers. I think of it as reading internal Third Reich intelligence documents. Full of the best intel available--but dutifully punctuated with "Heil Hitler!" All intel guys and girls have those blinders on.
There's much truth between the gratuitous neocon jargon.
There is obviously something fishy about the weaving together by the MSM of Anna Politkovskaya with Litvinenko's sensationalist and 'sexy' murder by exotic radiation poisoning. The MSM spin expects us to buy that the FSB would pull blatant assassinations of people with supposedly 'smoking gun evidence' that the FSB assassinates people. Ostensibly, the spectacular Ian Fleming style murders are to 'send a message' from the the FSB?
That doesn't make sense to me. I mean, if Putin were the Batman Joker and this were a movie, I could suspend my disbelief. It's not that the FSB doesn't routinely ransack journalist's offices, beat them up, or murder them, but what would they gain by murdering defectors and journalists under protection of political asylum in such spectacular ways as to enable the western MSM to slander Putin?
The documented history of KGB assassinations in the west had a consistant modus operandi of ingeniously concealing the true cause of death.
The never gunned down expatriat Russian journalists in a hail of bullets, that would be stupid.
Was the choice of murder by radiation poisoning supposed to intimidate Russians thinking of squealing?
If the FSB isn't on the top of my list for whom poisoned Litvinenko, I can't speculate on who did. All I know is that the MSM promotion that "exotic radiaton murder = FSB" is childish.
It appears to me that the whole affair is definitely a psyop. At first I assumed it was yet another smear of Putin--but with Russia about to officially join the WTO and Putin clearly a member of the G-8 frontman club, would he be smeared at this time?
I've no definite conclusions, but now incredibly the spin has turned to innuendo that Litvinenko had 'evidence' that Putin somehow 'framed' the YUKOS oligarchs? Poor oligarchs......
Russia's role in the NWO has always been confusing. We now know that western capitalists created and sponsored the overthrow of the Russian monarchy and installed the greatest socialist experiment of the day--Soviet totalitarian Communism. We also now know that the long term plan has always been to refine Orewllian totalitarian socialism in the East 'lab', while refining Huxlian 'democratic' capitalist socialism in the West 'lab'. The goal was always to merge them both into one efficient system of global social control eventually.
It's too vast for me to draw a definite conclusion about whether Putin really has been acting as a nationalist in the interest of assurring the highest possible position for the Russian zone in the NWO as it solidifies into permant global order, or whether all the intrigues are part of the theater.
Nationalizing the Russian oil industry was quite a compelling move. And Russia does appear to have greatly enhanced it's clout and bargaining position in the NWO since 2000, when the US seemed to have Putin by the balls.
I'm not offering this as a definite conclusion, but the best I can figure from following the East/West dynamics through all this, is that it appears that nation members of the G-8 aren't done with infighting over the positions of power of their zone. And if this is true, the US is definitely going to have a 'junior partner' role in the future. Not Russia.
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Rosalinda

Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 355 Location: Mexico
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject: A CHENEY CONNECTION EMERGES IN THE LITVINENKO CASE |
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[La Repubblica Nov. 26-27]
Yevgeni Limarev, a former FSB official whom Mario Scaramella indicated
was his source for the story that Litvinenko was on an FSB hit
list, gave an interview to Italy's La Repubblica denying
Scaramella's version and adding a few elements on Scaramella's
networks.
Scaramella, Limarev says, has boasted connections to
U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney. Scaramella works for the
Washington-based Environmental Crime Prevention Program (ECPP),
which, according to Limarev, "has institutional support in
military intelligence." Limarev reports that Scaramella told him
that "they could rely on Dick Cheney's team at the White House."
"It is enough for you to know, Mario and [Italian parliament
Mytrokhin committee head] Guzzanti told me, that behind the ECPP
there are Italians and Americans, for security reasons. Once in a
while, they talked, in my presence, about Dick Cheney, but I
never saw Cheney papers.
"They explained to me that ECPP acts officially as an
environmental protection agency, and a section of non-official
activities whose organizational level does not include offices,
base, protocols, etc., financed with tens of million dollars
partially in Italy (through the Carabinieri environmental
protection fund, they told me once) and partially through the
Republic of San Marino-based holding, Finbroker."
Through the ECPP, Scaramella tried to involve both Limarev
and Litvinenko into fabricating dossiers against Italian anti-war
politicians, which were channelled to the Parliament Mytrokhin
investigating committee. Limarev mentions Prime Minister Romano
Prodi and current Foreign Minister Massimo D'Alema as top
targets, but the list includes also several leaders of the PdCI,
Rifondazione, and Green parties. Scaramella tried to get from
both Litvinenko and Limarev dossiers proving that these
politicians had been KGB agents. Allegedly, when Litvinenko and
Limarev realized that Scaramella and his boss Guzzanti were not
interested in harming Putin, they withdrew their collaboration. _________________ "It is through beauty, that one proceeds to freedom." - Friedrich Schiller |
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matt

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could it be that the Litvinenko op was a 'cleanser' ? far too obvious a stunt to really be in Putin's name ? (and so blatant just in case anyone hadn't noticed all the deaths yet), and 'aimed at discrediting' Putin, reverse engineer the logic, and none of the assassinations were at his command ? 'poor Putin has been set up repeatedly', only this is the most blatant to date...'he's a good guy'
and the power shift Ormond mentions may be intended to have the appearance of wrangling, when in fact it could so easily be scripted at this level too - in order that the old 'power/arms race' and 'balance' might be reborn for future utilisation (and as we're all well aware - 'the worlds only superpower' has fulfilled, or nearly fulfilled its role of bombing things and discrediting itself ?) _________________ all things will proceed according to the whim of the great turtle |
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Hocus Locus

Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 846 Location: Lost in anamnesis, cannot forget my way out
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| Quote: | | matt asks, could it be that the Litvinenko op was a 'cleanser' ? far too obvious a stunt to really be in Putin's name ? (and so blatant just in case anyone hadn't noticed all the deaths yet), and 'aimed at discrediting' Putin, reverse engineer the logic, and none of the assassinations were at his command ? 'poor Putin has been set up repeatedly', only this is the most blatant to date...'he's a good guy' |
Good triple-think there matt. My off the cuff is there is too much risk for the FSB/Putin/etc. to take that route, unless they are willing to risk the serious possibility that not enough, or not the targeted people will unpeel the layer. And they usually don't. But it is a good thing to consider anyway, so I would further venture that *if* they were willing to risk using such a tactic, they would have executed it in a less obtrusive manner, say a classic drive by shooting (remember those? I'm feeling old) so they could (reasonably) achieve that objective, to later call attention to the killing with evidence that proves the setup (and it would have to be comic-strip obvious to carry it off) without invoking all the 'unmanageable' sentiment of a nuclear angle.
| Quote: | Yevgeni Limarev, a former FSB official whom Mario Scaramella indicated
was his source [...] denying Scaramella's version [...] Scaramella works for the Washington-based Environmental Crime Prevention Program (ECPP) [...] Scaramella told him that "they could rely on Dick Cheney [...] behind ECPP there are Italians and Americans, for security reasons. [...] Allegedly, when Litvinenko and Limarev realized that Scaramella and his boss Guzzanti were not interested in harming Putin, they withdrew their collaboration. |
Consider Limarev's motivation for releasing this if he is retired, had 'collaborated' with Litvinenko, wishes to be left alone. The poor man is probably watching his diet carefully, this is no joke. He does not deny speaking to Scaramella, just claims the story was wrong. ("denied the version)? But does he say specifically how the story is wrong? All I see there is a type of counter-attack. I may have read it wrong but he seems to be denying the story and not any aspect of it. If so this is not a denial but a "yeah but look where he's coming from, here's the dope on him." Which could be a next move in a pre-arranged game, if Limarev and Scaramella have some relation besides reporter and quarry. But Limarev does (tenuously) confess to being a Putin-hater as well ("they withdrew not "Litvinenko wasn't interested"). There's a tangent: is he?
Scaramella actually named his source -- not the kind of reporter one would like to meet. There is no connotation of them being agents for anyone else, only a claim Scaramella is. If Limarev's ire is genuine, Scaramella's story might be a threatening spin, one along the road towards characterizing the two men, one now dead, as a two-man anti-Putin league, Lone intel gunmen if you will. Contrast that with my take that in the 1998 incident Litvinenko was hired (or coerced) into going public on Russian TV. So it would be natural for those that did the hiring to spin towards a 'two bitter old Putin haters acting alone' angle, just as Oswald acted alone (says the NY Times). Trail would end. Scaramella would be a front for the ones with the 'loose end'. There is supposition here, suppositories for the mind: There are no conculsions here, just trying to lay things out. In my comments, any resemblence to persons living or dead is pure coincidence.
Good connection analyzer for people-connections
Vivisimo search: Litvinenko Limarev. This cluster engine helps to gather me-too fish together so you can jump right to the red fish, blue fish. But then again, Vivisimo is a CIA start-up and run by them (I heard once). But then again so is my country. If you don't want to tell them *I* sent you, right-click copy and paste the link (thanks).
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Top search result is a 'hard liner' 007-angle article that discusses Thallium (not polonium 210? Oh, It's dated 20-Nov. Moving right along here), Oh, this first-listed news item is a sponsored link! in the search result. Kewl. I also note that though my search was (Litvinenko AND Limarev) the sponsored link apparatus matched on (Litvinenko OR Limarev) , good to note. No Limarev in there but this caught my eye,
| Quote: | The Litvinenko File (from "The Poison" section)
[...!...] The CIA plotted to use thallium on Fidel Castro, while the South African government sought to use it against Nelson Mandela. There are rumours that Anna Politkovskaya, the journalist whose death Litvinenko was probing, may also have been targeted.
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thallium is a slow-acting toxin that targets enzymes in the brain, muscles and skin. It takes a fortnight for symptoms to appear: lethargy and numbness, followed by blackouts and hair loss. Tasteless and odourless, just a gram can prove fatal. All of which makes thallium perfect for agencies seeking to silence their critics. It leaves its victims in no doubt they have been deliberately targeted, while serving notice on every other wise guy that they could be next. Meanwhile, the assassins have a fortnight to make good their escape. |
No it doesn't. Popcorn comic-book foof. Such a poison might only be effective for the first instance of its use, or (from then on, in the nuclear polonium 210 sense) only if the batteries are dead in the doctor's Geiger counter. And as to it being a covert message serving notice, well, there are other ways to do that without getting the whole world in an uproar. These silly people just don't think these things through!
I mean, for that kind of purpose the umbrella thing was cool (skim past the JFK stuff) -- a terror weapon Hitchcock would choose -- because its effectiveness as a deterrent and threat relied on the ubiquity of umbrellas and the ability to deliver a horrifying warning. Silly popcorn reporters do not 'get' this, that intel folk don't just take you out like that, they play you with a warning: a stranger say, opens an umbrella rudely in your direction and says, "Pardon me sir. By the way, the next time it'll be real." That is how they operate, because in the real world if a plot if afoot they are far more interested in the phone call you might make five minutes later. It's also a form of professional courtesy, a phrase I find too often in relation for lawyers, not often enough for spies. Should be the other way 'round. These people don't want to scorch the Earth of possibly-useful humans, Pol-Pot style, they just want to get a handle on them. According to this article, ability of the assassins to escape from the scene is a factor in choosing an assassination method? If you drop a piano on them and your foot becomes tangled in the rope, maybe. C'mon.
The use of a poison delivery mechanism that leaves no room for warning, is traceable, gives the affected plenty of time to be debriefed, and terrifies everybody, is a sorry-ass poison. Unless the real purpose is to stampede the sheeple, not the intel folk. When career intel folk see things like this I'll bet they're saying, "Oh no, the politicians are peeing in our soup again. Time to retire, this time for real." Sorry, things like this bother me.
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Subbject: the Republic, intrigues and old men laces, the sewer that Advances
If I didn't have the shoulders by now wide and of indestructible material, I should say that the first feeling would be of panic: if I/you had not seen of it of all the colors, the built lies to tavolino, could whine now amazed and indignant.
Instead I am not amazed and all the accounts return.
The readers of this newspaper don't perhaps know what yesterday Republic put in page a picked interview one year ago and for one year, it would be said, estate in the drawer like a revolver for accoppare me.
I have already denied that newspaper that now I will sue, but the interesting fact is that the article of Republic makes a prophecy true: the prophecy according to which would have been entirely for a long time built to Moscow a false dossier on me (prepared to tavolino with the systems in which yesterday's Kgb and of today it is teacher) that, it was me reported, you/he/she would have tried to connect my name with every turbid story of secret services, reaching the abduction of Abu Omar.
The source of these information has been mine ex collaborator Mario Scaramella which said to have learned her from an ex Soviet agent that he/she lives in France, Eugeni Limarev, and it is a collaborator of the French secret services today.
This Limarev I never have him neither seen neither known. I don't even have never spoken on the phone with him and I have maintained a prudent distance both with him and with all the ex Soviet or Russian agents to the foreign countries, really not to create the least commistione with my precedent job of President of the Committee Mitrokhin, that you/he/she has closed the leaves together with the legislature.
Show up therefore you the surprise, the nausea, ilsenso of disgust that I have tried reading on the quoted newspaper an interview to yesterday such that Limarevs which he/she affirmed to have met me in Italy inside «secret structures».
Naturally it is a fib.
The only structure that I know and that I frequent it is the Parliament of the Italian Republic, of whose Committee Mitrokhin has been for four years the president.
But when I have read of the «structures» that this Limarev would have seen with me, and naturally with Scaramella (how you are wrong you?), have I immediately understood where he/she wanted to go to protect who has created the «manufacture» (from the English «fabrication» word used for pointing out a trap done on purpose).
The manufacture served for saying and to make to say: Ahahà, here what in reality was the Committee Mitrokhin! A dirty burrow of mestatori in the shade that, headed by Paul Guzzanti, they plots against the honest communist left.
A classical. If this people were repetitive and predictable, you/he/she could be also amusing. But it is not him/it.
In reality it is false and sad people, dark, deceitful. The first prize to the unintentional humor goes to the Italian communist senatrice Palermi that enjoins me to discharge me from the presidency of the Mitrokhin, ignoring the poveretta that the Committee Mitrokhin doesn't exist anymore.
But the tone is that: Republic gives the her and the choir departs immediately.
Did it already happen, such and which, in 2002 when a man Vincent Zagami, held in a French jail (but always in France these beautiful characters come?) you/he/she tried to induce to write me some absolute falsehoods on who had perceived the tangent pretensions of Telekom Serbia.
I didn't fall there, I didn't write a line and when I warned with a letter it publishes the president Trantino of the trap, really Republic published a service from which he/she was seen that some journalists of his had followed footstep after footstep the trap extended me and they let in their readers that I had published that believed that I had not published.
Result, the same of today: applications of resignations for unworthiness, insults and insinuations without saving.
To that epoch I still stunned me, so I stunned me. But I held up blow and rintuzzai the attack.
Today the déjà vu repeats him: Republic goes out with a manufacture against me (the journalists and their manager would have had the Duty to feel me and to ask me if I confirmed, instead they have come less to the elementary rules of the journalism) and the honorable Sgobio immediately threateningly warns:
«The ex president of the Committee Mitrokhin will have to explain a lot of things. Revelations give of Republic a picture of turbid manoeuvres it emerges around the errand. There is to wonder if those secret structures are still operational and you weave recently» with other plants spy discoveries.
The same Mark Rizzo up of the Italian Communists that thunders: «We are of forehead to a turbid story that rotates around the activities of the errand Mitrokhin. Guzzanti has to clarify the role of the advisors and, above all, of possible reserved activities as they emerge from the daily paper».
Only I don't now, have not to clarify really nothing, but I pretend that he makes things clear.
Whoever has killed Litvinenko it is also behind these factories of lies and infamies.
I ask that the journalists' order, the magistracy, the secret services, policemen and police do their duty.
The battle starts. The party of the truth cannot lose her/it. |
Oh, about my friends at OPORD Analytical
| Quote: | > whois OPORDANALYTICAL.COM
Registrant:
OPORD Analytical
[...Network solution's identity cloaking snipped. Looks like they paid for the 'full cloak']
Record created on 11-Sep-2006. |
The website is slick, but would a real enterprise of that nature go for the 'full identity cloak'...? Probably means there is no office for the organization, or the organization is really a privacy-desiring individual. Behold, the power of cheesy inference. And that date, looks like they were born yesterday. What does that date remind me of...? I wonder what would happen if one took the red and the blue pill together, gotta check the PDR.
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Ormond

Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 1559 Location: Belly of the Beast, Texas
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| Quote: | | bigger psyop that I'm missing? ~ Ormond |
Okay, as of tonight the 'orgy of evidence' has piled up a little bit too much...
Looks like we've been had. This is a pure psyop for public distraction.
File it under I'm going to file under "Pure, unadulturated Psyop" along with the other "X" files:
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