|Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:46 am Post subject:
|Fintan - (re: Velikovsky & Einstein): Have you read this by Issac Newton and his final 'Scholium?'
Not really groundbreaking but for me eye-opening to know a scientist had such regard and belief in 'god' that he wrote this as his last written work before he died.
Don't forget that at the time this was written the Church had almost executed Galileo so unless Newton wanted to go earlier - he had to watch what he said at the time. However, he clearly knew that there was much he could not prove so best to leave it for another lifetime than get the Pope all riled up again
SCHOLIUM: NEWTON'S MATHEMATICAL PRINCIPALS OF NATURAL PHILOSOPHY
Scholium at the end of Sir Isaac Newton's
MATHEMATICAL PRINCIPLES OF NATURAL PHILOSOPHY
The hypothesis of vortices is pressed with many difficulties. That every planet by a radius drawn to the sun may describe areas proportional to the times of description, the periodic times of the several parts of the vortices should observe the square of their distances from the sun; but that the periodic times of the planets may obtain the 3/2th power of their distances from the sun, the periodic times of the parts of the vortex ought to be as the 3/2th power of their distances. That the smaller vortices may maintain their lesser revolutions about Saturn, Jupiter, and other planets, and swim quietly and undisturbed in the greater vortex of the sun, the periodic times of the parts of the sun's vortex should be equal; but the rotation of the sun and planets about their axes, which ought to correspond with the motions of their vortices, recede far from all these proportions. The motions of the comets are exceedingly regular, are governed by the same laws with the motions of the planets, and can by no means be accounted for by the hypothesis of vortices; for comets are carried with very eccentric motions through all parts of the heavens indifferently, with a freedom that is incompatible with the notion of a vortex.
Bodies projected in our air suffer no resistance but from the air. Withdraw the air, as is done in Mr. Boyle's vacuum, and the resistance ceases; for in this void a bit of fine down and a piece of solid gold descend with equal velocity. And the same argument must apply to the celestial spaces above the earth's atmosphere; in these spaces, where there is no air to resist their motions, all bodies will move with the greatest freedom; and the planets and comets will constantly pursue their revolutions in orbits given in kind and position, according to the laws above explained; but though these bodies may, indeed, continue in their orbits by the mere laws of gravity, yet they could by no means have at first derived the regular position of the orbits themselves from those laws.
The six primary planets are revolved about the sun in circles concentric with the sun, and with motions directed towards the same parts, and almost in the same plane. Ten moons are revolved about the earth, Jupiter, and Saturn, in circles concentric with them, with the same direction of motion, and nearly in the planes of the orbits of those planets; but it is not to be conceived that mere mechanical causes could give birth to so many regular motions, since the comets range over all parts of the heavens in very eccentric orbits; for by that kind of motion they pass easily through the orbs of the planets, and with great rapidity; and in their aphelions, where they move the slowest, and are detained the longest, they recede to the greatest distances from each other, and hence suffer the least disturbance from their mutual attractions. This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. And if the fixed stars are the centres of other like systems, these, being formed by the like wise counsel, must be all subject to the dominion of One; especially since the light of the fixed stars is of the same nature with the light of the sun, and from every system light passes into all the other systems: and lest the systems of the fixed stars should, by their gravity, fall on each other, he hath placed those systems at immense distances from one another.
This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on account of his dominion he is wont to be called Lord God (greek), or Universal Ruler; for God is a relative word, and has a respect to servants; and Deity is the dominion of God not over his own body, as those imagine who fancy God to be the soul of the world, but over servants. The Supreme God is a Being eternal, infinite, absolutely perfect; but a being, however perfect, without dominion, cannot be said to be Lord God; for we say, my God, your God, the God of Israel, the God of Gods, and Lord of Lords; but we do not say, my Eternal, your Eternal, the Eternal of Israel, the Eternal of Gods; we do not say, my Infinite, or my Perfect: these are titles which have no respect to servants. The word God usually signifies Lord; 1 but every lord is not a God. It is the dominion of a spiritual being which constitutes a God: a true, supreme, or imaginary dominion makes a true, supreme, or imaginary God. And from his true dominion it follows that the true God is a living, intelligent, and powerful Being; and, from his other perfections, that he is supreme, or most perfect. He is eternal and infinite, omnipotent and omniscient; that is, his duration reaches from eternity to eternity; his presence from infinity to infinity; he governs all things, and knows all things that are or can be done. He is not eternity and infinity, but eternal and infinite; he is not duration or space, but he endures and is present. He endures forever, and is everywhere present; and, by existing always and everywhere, he constitutes duration and space. Since every particle of space is always, and every indivisible moment of duration is everywhere, certainly the Maker and Lord of all things cannot be never and nowhere. Every soul that has perception is, though in different times and in different organs of sense and motion, still the same indivisible person. There are given successive parts in duration, coexistent parts in space, but neither the one nor the other in the person of a man, or his thinking principle; and much less can they be found in the thinking substance of God. Every man, so far as he is a thing that has perception, is one and the same man during his whole life, in all and each of his organs of sense. God is the same God, always and everywhere. He is omnipresent not virtually only, but also substantially; for virtue cannot subsist without substance. In him2 are all things contained and moved; yet neither affects the other: God suffers nothing from the motion of bodies; bodies find no resistance from the omnipresence of God. It is allowed by all that the Supreme God exists necessarily; and by the same necessity he exists always and everywhere. Whence also he is all similar, all eye, all ear, all brain, all arm, all power to perceive, to understand, and to act; but in a manner not at all human, in a manner not at all corporeal, in a manner utterly unknow'n to us. As a blind man has no idea of colors, so have we no idea of the manner by which the all-wise God perceives and understands all things. He is utterly void of all body and bodily figure, and can therefore neither be seen, nor heard, nor touched; nor ought he to be worshipped under the representation of any corporeal thing. We have ideas of his attributes, but what the real substance of anything is we know not. In bodies, we see only their figures and colors, we hear only the sounds, we touch only their outward surfaces, we smell only the smells, and taste the savors; but their inward substances are not to be known either by our senses, or by any reflex act of our minds: much less, than, have we any idea of the substance of God. We know him only by his most wise and excellent contrivances of things, and final causes; we admire him for his perfections; but we reverence and adore him on account of his dominion: for we adore him as his servants; and a god without dominion, providence, and final causes, is nothing else but Fate and Nature. Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and everywhere, could produce no variety of things. All that diversity of natural things which we find suited to different times and places could arise from nothing but the ideas and will of a Being necessarily existing. But, by way of allegory, God is said to see, to speak, to laugh, to love, to hate, to desire, to give, to receive, to rejoice, to be angry, to fight, to frame, to work, to build; for all our notions of God are taken from the ways of mankind by a certain similitude, which, though not perfect, has some likeness, however. And thus much concerning God; to discourse of whom from the appearances of things, does certainly belong to natural philosophy.
Hitherto we have explained the phenomena of the heavens and of our sea by the power of gravity, but have not yet assigned the cause of this power. This is certain, that it must proceed from a cause that penetrates to the very centres of the sun and planets, without suffering the least diminution of its force; that operates not according to the quantity of the surfaces of the particles upon which it acts (as mechanical causes used to do), but according to the quantity of the solid matter which they contain, and propagates its virtue over all sides to immense distances, decreasing always as the inverse square of the distances. Gravitation towards the sun is made up out of the gravitations towards the several particles of which the body of the sun is composed; and in receding from the sun decreases accurately as the inverse square of the distances as far as the orbit of Saturn, as evidently appears from the quiescence of the aphelion of the planets; nay, and even to the remotest aphelion of the comets, if those aphelions are also quiescent. But hitherto I have not been able to discover the cause of those properties of gravity from phenomena, and I frame no hypotheses; for whatever is not deduced from the phenomena is to be called an hypothesis; and hypotheses, whether metaphysical or physical, whether of occult qualities or mechanical, have no place in experimental philosophy. In this philosophy particular propositions are inferred from the phenomena, and afterwards rendered general by induction. Thus it was that the impenetrability, the mobility, and the impulsive force of bodies, and the laws of motion and of gravitation, were discovered. And to us it is enough that gravity does really exist, and act according to the laws which we have explained, and abundantly serves to account for all the motions of the celestial bodies, and of our sea."
Newton's closing paragraph
"And now we might add something concerning a certain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies; by the force and action of which spirit the particles of bodies attract one another at near distances, and cohere, if contiguous; and electric bodies operate to greater distances, as well repelling as attracting the neighboring corpuscles; and light is emitted, reflected, refracted, inflected, and heats bodies; and all sensation is excited, and the members of animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely, by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain into the muscles. But these are things that cannot be explained in few words, nor are we furnished with that sufficiency of experiments which is required to an accurate determination and demonstration of the laws by which this electric and elastic spirit operates."
1. Dr. Pocock derives the Latin word Deus from the Arabic du (in the oblique case di), which signifies Lord. And in this sense princes are called gods, Psalms, 82.6; and John, 10.35. And Moses is called a god to his brother Aaron, and a god to Pharaoh, Exodus, 4.16; and 7.1. And in the same sense the souls of dead princes were formerly, by the heathens, called gods, but falsely, because of their want of dominion.
2. This was the opinion of the ancients. So Pythagoras, in Cicero De natura deorum i. Thales, Anaxagoras, Virgil, in Georgics iv. 220; and Aeneid vi. 721. Philo, Allegories, at the beginning of Book I. Aratus, in his Phenomena, at the beginning. So also the sacred writers: as St. Paul, in Acts, 17.27, 28. St. John's Gospel, 14.2. Moses, in Deuteronomy, 4.39; and 10.14. David, in Psalms, 139.7,8,9. Solomon, in I Kings, 8~7. Job, 22.12,13,14. Jeremiah, 23.23,24. The idolaters supposed the sun, moon, and stars, the souls of men, and other parts of the world, to be parts of the Supreme God, and therefore to be worshipped; but erroneously.
Translated by Andrew Motte, Revised by Florian Cajore
Published in GREAT BOOKS OF THE WESTERN WORLD #34
Robert Maynard Hutchins, Editor in chief, William Benton, Chicago, 1952.
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|Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: Wave Theory
It can be predicted using the Lorentz transformation. No surprise there : the Lorentz transformation actually is the result of the Doppler effect.
But it can also be predicted using the Doppler effect and a new motion postulate, founded on the fact that the time needed for any wave round trip between two points, hence its cycle, will be two times longer inside such a moving wave structure.
From: The Wave Theory
... to "Woah...."
A new law of action and reaction.
From a mechanical point of view, those active and reactive masses generate active and reactive forces. They clearly indicate that Newton's famous third law is wrong :
" Any action has an equal and opposite reaction ".
Because of the mass increase, the inequality has been demonstrated since a long time. Moreover the Doppler effect is sinusoidal : l' = l (1 – b cos j), and oblique forces also are. So any force should also follow this formula, using a "phi" angle which is null frontward and reaches 180° backward :
F' = F / (1 – b cos j)
Nobody seems to have proposed the correct law. In my opinion it should be worded like this :
" Any action has a simultaneous and opposite reaction in accordance with the Doppler effect ".
From: The Wave Theory
... to "Holy Crap!" once again...
Gabriel LaFreniere is on to something here it seems - something big.
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|Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject:
|I haven't reviewed this entire thread but it's proven to be intriguing. I never really believed in solid things myself, only layers of interference.
On the matter of resonance [as I shall choose to call it] structuring reality, I was reminded of Christopher Dunn's THE GIZA POWER PLANT. I've only read the book once but Dunn examines a wide body of academic sources on Egyptology as well as examining the methods of construction used in the formation of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Dunn is a master engineer whose examination of the Great Pyramid reached some fascinating conclusions.
Quoting from the publisher
This master engineer shows how the Great Pyramid possibly created a harmonic resonance with the Earth, allowing this crystal edifice to convert the Earth's vibrational energies into an unlimited supply of electricity.
Suffice to say that the Giza pyramid appears to resonate at the frequency of Mother Earth and that the correct resonant frequency within the pyramid [when it is in a functional state] would cause the pyramid, with it's massive 80 ton blocks of piezoelectric granite [high quarts content], to generate significant electrical energy.
The structure of the Giza pyramid was primarily granite, with a limestone exterior [long since robbed for other projects]. The so-called "Queen's chamber" was a huge watertight tub beneath the pyramid which has the peculiar feature of a great deal of alkaline salts clinging to the walls of the misnamed Queen's chamber. Alkaline salts, of course, bring to mind the electrolytic process by which fuel cells and the human body operate.
I've been researching health subjects and am currently very much interested in the acid/alkaline nature of the human fuel cell body.
How does that relate to the Giza pyramid?
First consider the chemical composition of granite:
Silica(SiO2) ---------------------- 70-77%
Alumina(Al2O3) ----------------- 11- 14%
Potassium Oxide(P2O5) --------- 3 – 5%
Soda(Na2O) ------------------------ 3 – 5%
Lime ----------------------------------- 1%
Iron(Fe2O3) -------------------------- 1-2%
Iron(FeO) ----------------------------- 1 – 3%
Magnesia(Mg0) ------------------------- .5 – 1%
Titina ---------------------------------- Less than 1%(.38%)
Water(H2O) --------------------------- 0.03%
Now consider the chemical composition of limestone:
The anhydrous carbonates lack both the hydroxyl anion (OH-) and water (H2O) in their chemical formulae. These carbonates are divided into three isostructural groups, called the calcite group, the dolomite group, and the aragonite group.
The calcite group contains calcite (CaCO3), magnesite (MgCO3), rhodocrosite (MnCO3), and siderite (FeCO3). ..
The dolomite group contains the minerals dolomite (CaMg(CO3)2) and ankerite (CaFe(CO3)2)...
The aragonite group is composed of the orthorhombic carbonates, of which aragonite (CaCO3), strontianite (SrCO3) and cerussite (PbCO3) provide examples...
Dunn eventually postulates that the Giza Pyramid was a massive hydrogen firing fuel cell which used resonance and piezoelectricity to generate electrical charges.
What strikes me from the mineral composition of the pyramid is how familiar the minerals are from a study of the acid/alkaline theory of the human body. I will use a well known text on the subject, REVERSE AGING from Sang Whang [alkalife.com]. It's appropriate that the cover of the book shows a tree half in bloom and half in decay: nature's duality.
The Giza Pyramid's physical shell is an alkaline skeleton. Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium and Iron are all alkaline elements of both the Giza Pyramid and the human body.
Why is this interesting. It becomes interesting if we consider water.
I accept, for the purpose of this discussion, that the Giza Pyramid could indeed have generated electricity and made use of the chemical conversion between water and hydrogen/oxygen. I also accept that the human body generates electricity and makes use of the same sort of chemical conversion.
Water, it turns out, is the key. In REVERSE AGING, the author explains the basic nature of acid/alkaline water using pH values. I will here give three examples of the extremes [page 21]:
Popular brand cola:
excess oxygen -158.1x10^20
excess oxygen 0.0
excess oxygen 5.0x10^20
As you can see, the typical soda is highly acidic and extremely low in oxygen. Distilled water is essentially a neutral substance, lending almost nothing to the fuel cell chemistry of the body. Alkaline water has an abundance of hyrdoxyls [OH-] and there is able to contribute free electrons to the chemistry of the fuel cell. Further, alkaline water is rich in oxygen needed for chemical conversion and heat release [the interior furnace of the body]
In a nutshell, H+ causes acidity within the body, which diminish health through acid buildup. OH- scavenges free radicals and releases the all important oxygen into the chemical process.
What strikes me here, is that, if taken from the context of the resonant theory, there is a *harmony* to the proportions of acidity and alkalinity maintained by, for example, the human body:
Stomach juice: pH 1.5
Skin: pH 4.7
Saliva: pH 7.1
Cell: pH 7.1
Blood: pH 7.4
Pancreatic juice: pH 8.8
The skin maintains an acidic state to protect against the exterior environment.
The blood remains at an 7.4 alkaline state and the body takes steps to maintain that 7.4 alkalinity to the point of pulling calcium from the skeleton anytime that blood acidity is threatened. The pancreas is able to release alkaline juices which combat the most serious types of acidity [for example, the acidity resulting from (or causing...take your pick) cancer].
What the entire process seems to be, is a series of in and out waves. For example, the body takes in preferably alkaline water and alkaline producing food and releases acidic liquids and gases.
This is just a hunch, but I have a suspicion that there is a relationship between the numerics of the acid/alkaline balance and the numerics of Fuller. I haven't studied the numerics but, if the resonance principle is indeed fundamental, then I would expect to see mathematical confirmation in both the Giza Pyramid and the human body.
Just a thought...
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|Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: Maxwell
|wow, this is my first look into this part of the forums. rather wordy. i have'nt read much so maybe this moot.
what about James Clerk Maxwell's material on electromagnetic waves? did'nt he piece this all together only to have it cut up by subsequent scientists?
"Maxwells famous equations which were, in the original form, the foundations of electromagnetics and Unified Field Theory (UFT)..."
his quaternion equations dealing with scalar waves as well gravity/em waves...
also wanted to mention that i suspect that sex might shed some light on the in to out transition. not physical sex but the more abstract forces.
i'm only up to the 5th audio... but i'm repeatedly reminded of kabbalistic lore in all this.
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|Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:15 am Post subject:
This just in from Milo Wolff.
His new book "Schroedinger's Universe" has received a
5 star review on Amazon.com from Sutapas Bhattacharya.
Here's the email and the review:
Thank you for your review of my book,
"Schroedinger's Universe - Origin of the Natural laws".
I am deeply impressed with your amazing encyclopediac knowledge of
science, philosophy, history, mathematics and physics. There is no need
for a library as long as you are available!
I am forwarding your review article to two editors (Dr. Cynthia Whitney
and Nancy Kolenda) of excellent smaller journals that publish on the
philosophy of science. I am sure they will regard your review as valuable
material if they have the space. They would also need references - altho
many may be found on a Google.com search. They may ask to shorten
Michael Studencki is currently writing books and translating this book into
Fintan in Ireland, publishes an internet journal called BreakforNews.com.
He is much interested in new concepts and has an amazing scientific
memory like yours.
I am not sure whether they might chose to publish in a format other than
a review letter. They may contact you. They may want permission to
shorten your review.
Geoff Haselhurst publishes an internet journal SpaceAndMotion.com and
conducts an inter forum on the Wave Structure of Matter.
Mike Weber is a professor of Physics/EE and an outstanding member of
Like you, all these persons are amazing people with amazing minds
interested in your thoughts.
Sincerely, Milo Wolff
And here's the Review by Sutapas Bhattacharya. Not only a great review
of the book, but also a terrific overview of Eastern and Western science
|Below is my (5 star) Amazon Review of a new book by US physicist Milo
Wolff whose remarkable Wave Structure of Matter model of the electron
seems to show how the unexplained properties of matter and the so-
called Laws of Nature arise. As Wolff himself notes such notions resemble
various Asian philosophies. I consider Wolffs model to be superior to
those of the late David Bohm (who suggested similar ideas) and the work
of Wolfram Schommers. Please forward this review to anyone interested.
Eliminate Elementary Particles:
Matter and Laws Emerge from Wave Holonomy
Anyone interested in Physics, Metaphysics, New Age Cosmologies such as
the Holographic ideas of Bohm and Pribram, Indian Tantric metaphysics
and notions of the Akasha, or just in amazing new ideas explaining once
mysterious phenomena should read this remarkable book.
The central ideas are easy enough to understand without the need for
mathematics and Wolff conveniently leaves most of the maths out of the
main text placing it in appendices.
By abandoning the Western myth of elementary particles and modelling
the electron as a phenomenon (appearance) created by converging
(Huygens construction) scalar wavefronts which spin around as it were
and diverge again from the (finite not infinitesimal particle-like) wave-
centre (his so-called Space Resonances) and using just two basic
principles, Wolff shows how previously unexplained basic properties of
matter (e.g. charge attraction/repulsion, spin, antimatter), the so-called
Laws of Nature, and mysteries such as the Dirac Large Number ratios
relating the Hubble Universe to the electron and proton etc. emerge from
the (holonomic) wave structure of matter.
Similarly, the seemingly mysterious paradoxes of Quantum Mechanics
disappear as conceptual confusions produced by assuming elementary
particles and related bad metaphysics that has proliferated around it.
Gravity is interpreted in a similar phenomenal (i.e. appearance rather
than existential reality) manner in regard to wave effects making a
particle phenomenon appear closer to a large body such as the sun,
hence the bending of light etc. Apparently this is equivalent to Einsteins
abstract mathematical curving of space in GTR. Such ideas tie in with
recent reinterpretations of Physics using Information Theory (see Seifes
Decoding the Universe) as epistemological analysis of Physics clearly
reveals that much of the content is metaphysical interpretation of the
limited empirically available information. Such notions of Gravity also has
some resonance with Sakharovs view that electromagnetism was
fundamental and Gravity appears as a collective phenomenon rather like
a pressure. I think Puthoffs ideas based on the Zero Point Field picture
Gravity similarly. Similarly the Red Shift which has been interpreted in
terms of an expanding universe can be reinterpreted in various ways
(tired photons etc.).
Note that Wolff's Machian holonomy relates the Hubble Constant to the
horizonal limit constituting a particles extended wave structure. Thus a
universe is conceived relativistically as the nonlocal, spherical light-
horizon limit around each particle. Wolff thus denies the Big Bang and
holds the cosmos to be infinite with each particle the centre of its own
horizonal universe. The simplicity and success in deriving unexplained
phenomena of Wolffs model has prompted me to order books that
question the validity of the Big Bang (Seeing Red; Big Bang Blasted) as
well as Carver Meads and Tonomuras books from Wolffs references.
The Western myth of the Laws of Nature and the Western Mind/Body
dualism both stem from the anthropomorphic Christian myth of Creatio
ex nihilo. Inspired by Chinese inventions like gunpowder, magnetic
compass and the mechanical clock, the Renaissance Christians, holding
God as separate from insentient, inanimate Nature searched for supposed
Laws of Nature.
The Chinese knew Nature was self-organising and such regularities arose
spontaneously and were not god-given laws (Newtons theistic god was
Prime Mover and Maintainer of the laws).
In Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Physical Science, Burtt brings out
Newtons tacit metaphysics of Space as the Sensorium of God, influenced
by Henry Mores Neoplatonic Space as Divine Presence and (contra. Wolff)
Newtons speculations of an Ether to explain magnetism and Gravity.
Galileo further despiritualised Nature with his use of the Greek Skeptics
primary (measurable, quantifiable) qualities as objective and supposedly
real whilst sensory (conscious) qualities like colours were considered
secondary and unreal. Isaac Newton, Edmund Husserl and others have
noted the folly of Galileos notions as measurable quantities cannot be
determined without sensory conscious qualities.
The notions of measurement and observation (regardless of Relativity)
presuppose Consciousness as Eddington noted in Nature of the Physical
World where he refers to scientists as those who start from
Consciousness to read dials and gauges etc. Thus Western Materialism
and Physicalism (as with Wolffs views) are false abstractions from
Wolff lists Clifford, Schrodinger, Einstein and Dirac as predecessors in
regard to the Wave Structure of Matter. In fact, not only are such ideas
found in Indian Tantric metaphysics but very similar notions of converging
and diverging holonomic waves in the implicate order were propounded
by David Bohm and Basil Hiley in the final chapter of The Undivided
Universe (1993 Bohms last book) which I would strongly recommend as
a supplement to this book for serious thinkers.
Such notions are linked to the famous Feynman diagrams. Wolffs
understanding of the historical and philosophical background to such
notions is limited and sometimes erroneous and Eurocentric. He does note
that Asian philosophers had thought up such ideas, stating how clever
they were. However, the notion of Akasha (Space as subtle matter,
ether), holonomy and resonances of form in the Akasha were not
products of thought but mystical realizations through Knowledge by
Identity (becoming one with).
Nobel laureate physicist Brian Josephson has stated that in order to go
beyond Quantum Theory, physicists may need to meditate and
experience the deeper levels of reality in altered states as mystics have
done (see Synthesis of Science and Religion). David Bohm (whom
Einstein befriended at Princeton) later befriended Jiddu Krishnamurti and
Bohms emphasis on Perception reflects this Indian influence. Bohms oft-
repeated metaphor of the particle like phenomenon being constituted by a
series of flashing moments resembles the ancient Indian Buddhist notion
associated with Dharmakirti etc. of atoms flashing in and out of existence.
This is how Buddhist yogis experience the manifestation of matter in
Insight Meditation and this Indian Momentary Atomism also resembles
Wolffs picture (although Wolffs wave centres involve standing wave
formations). Wolff also mentions such dynamic process views of matter in
Tibetan Dzogschen Buddhism where Reality is Light and Consciousness.
Tibetan Buddhism originated in Indian Tantric Buddhism and Dzogschen
(as advocated by Dalai Lama) returns Buddhism to a Brahmanical Ground
and Inner Light (Atman) as in the Brahmanism from which Buddhism
Another Eurocentric metaphysical deficiency is the fact that Clifford (mind-
stuff), Ernst Mach (had a Nature Mysticism ego dissolution experience
leading to Pansensism) and Schrodinger (lifelong advocate of Advaita
Vedanta (nondual Brahmanism)) were Panpsychists. Such wave
mechanical views are commonly associated with mystically derived
panpsychism. Biographer Moore states that Schrodinger was an Advaita
advocate before he became a physicist and held the Advaita Vedanta
doctrine of Atman/Brahman (that the impersonal consciousness within is
one with the universal absolute consciousness, the Ground of all Being) as
the highest thought ever formulated by man (it is not a concept but a
In fact Schrodinger said that his 1924 work on Bose-Einstein statistics,
which Einstein interpreted in terms of de Broglies Matter Waves led to his
Wave Mechanical Schrodinger Equation in 1925. S.N. Bose was a Bengali
Hindu and that Bose-Einstein condensates were created in laboratories a
few years ago. Particulate matter, near to absolute zero, becomes more
wave-like and then macroscopically visible matter becomes like one
gigantic Schrodinger Wave Function! Thus Matter Waves are not merely
Schrodinger detested the probabilistic interpretation of QM. He asserted
that the particle behaviour was described by a WAVE function as a
particle was actually constituted of waves (the particle being an
epiphenomenon). Schrodinger saw QM as perfectly consistent with the
Monism and the All in One/One in All (holonomy) of Advaita Vedanta. Of
course, discontinuous elementary particles are incompatible with
Brahmanic Monism whereas the tantric wave/vibrations of the underlying
Pure Consciousness retain Monism. Schrodinger also asserted in his What
is Life and Mind and Matter, his Vedantic view that Consciousness is
ultimately one ( a view supported by my identification of the physical
correlate of the inner Light of Pure Consciousness (atman) with the
brainwaves of the Reticular Activating System (a fact supported by
overwhelming phenomenological evidence). Thus Schrodingers true
metaphysics is Brahmanic, the phenomenal universe of physics arises out
of the nirguna (distinctionless) Brahman, the macrocosmic Light of Pure
Consciousness (the mystical Plenum/void).
Thus Wolff asks what is Space, the medium of energetic waves whereas
Schrodingers true world-picture would view Space as the Infinite Space of
nirguna Brahman as realised in the 20th Century by American
mathematician and mystic Merrell-Wolff in his Pathways Through to
Space. MW liked Diracs notion of antimatter as it resembled his
experience of the Highest Nondual Consciousness with dichotomous forms
polarizing out of it. Dirac spoke of a material Nothingness.
Similarly, Heisenberg told Capra (in Uncommon Wisdom) that he was
subconsciously influenced by Indian philosophy in his invention of QM.
Later in discussions with Tagore in Calcutta, it came as a great comfort to
Heisenberg that an entire civilisation (Indian) subscribed to a world-
picture that resembled the new QM that had so shocked the Western
Mind. Heisenberg has also questioned the Mind/Body dualism underlying
Western thought and his astrophysicist friend Carl von Weiszacker was an
advocate of Indian Tantric views.
Wolff stresses simple logical thought and intuitively understandable
metaphoric constructions rather than complex abstract mathematics and
so the gist of his ideas are amazingly simple to understand. In fact I
came across his paper in another book Science and the Primacy of
Consciousness where his work was placed in a Quantum Cosmology
section alongside those of Stapp, Evan Harris Walker, Amit Goswami etc.
which I was familiar with and decided to skip.
The ideas of Goswami on Quantum Mind (using completely erroneous
notions of consciousness based on von Neumann and Wigner as well as
assuming without argument Nondual Brahmanism) highlight what I have
referred to as superficial minds presenting their own confused thoughts as
profound mystery. Having myself identified the physical correlate of the
Light of Pure Consciousness with a well-established brain process, I can
see the stupidity of most extremely arcane Quantum Mind approaches.
Reality is much simpler than most blinkered physicists, steeped in arcane
Wolffs paper was entitled Matter Waves and Human Consciousness and
although it had nothing to do with Consciousness (Bohm also talks
misleadingly about Consciousness revealing his roots in Spinoza), I
recognised that his reformulation of physics using Matter Waves and
Machs Principle etc. harmonised with my own work in metaphysics and
Science-Mysticism synthesis related to the Akashic Resonance principles
underlying psychic phenomena which were also related to the ideas of
David Bohm (Active Information, Holonomy) and to the notion of Acausal
Orderedness (developed by Carl Jung after 26 years communication with
Wolfgang Pauli see Atom and Archetype) which Kantian theoretical
physicist Wolfram Schommers has elaborated upon in his own holonomic
(using Machs Principle) reformulation of Quantum Theory (see Symbols,
Pictures and Quantum Reality). Bohms and David Peats talk of Matter and
Mind merging at a deeper level reflects such Jungian inchoate ideas of a
Physicist Nick Herbert also explains in his Quantum Reality that the
attributes of matter are described in QM by waveform families. Herberts
own view is called Quantum Tantra as the Indian metaphysics of Tantra
holds the phenomenal universe to manifest through the energetic
vibrations of the underlying Ground, the Supreme Light of Pure
Consciousness (equivalent to Advaitas nirguna Brahman).
Incidentally, the Indian Maya (illusion) concept refers to how our normal
perception of Space-Time-Causality (STC) masks the true deeper, nature
of Reality which is not limited by STC. In fact, the flow of the Light of Pure
Consciousness (RAS brainwaves), underlying perception constitutes the
yogic Time/Space Matrix of Perception (an understanding much older and
more profound than Kants and Schommers Husserls collaborator Fink also
realised that the Momentary Flow of underlying Temporal Consciousness
constituted a Space-Time matrix).
When this is transcended the yogi experiences the holistic interconnectedness
of all phenomena! This STC/transcendental distinction in perception
underlies the Classical/Quantum distinction which Bohm never clearly
managed to clarify.
On p2 Wolff puts Pythagoras wrongly alongside Democritus as an Atomist
when in fact Pythagoras harmonies were remarkably similar to Wolffs
own musical analogies for waves! Similarly Plato is misrepresented as a
Natural Philosopher alongside Buddha! Contra Wolffs naive views,
McEvilley shows in The Shape of Ancient Thought how Greek philosophia
and Transcendental Monism originated in Indian Jain Yoga. Both
Pythagoras (the One breathed in the Void to fill up the space between
things) and Plato were mystics who believed in reincarnation. The goal of
philosophia for Plato was to escape the wheel of transmigration.
Furthermore, Diogenes Laertius mentions Democritus meetings with
Indian gymnosophists (yogis). Various forms of atomism were created by
Indian philosophers both substantial and momentary flashing types. Bohm
stresses how Democritus atomism was a response to the Eleatics (Zeno
etc.) denying Becoming and Motion. Democritus thus introduced the
notion of empty space (rather than Plenum-Ether) for ultimate atoms to
Contra Wolff, Democritan Atomism has not been dominant in the West
most of the time. As Seife shows in Zero: Biography of a Dangerous
Idea, it was the new Indian mathematics with its Zero (representing the
mystical Void or Nothingness), Infinity, so-called Arabic numerals,
algebra, arithmetic, solutions to general equations, sine function, negative
and imaginary numbers etc. which allowed Galileo, Descartes, Newton et
al. to develop the new mathematical physics and also the reintroduction
of Democritan Atomism. Aristotles rejection of the vacuum had
suppressed Atomism in the West. A.L. Basham notes that the medieval
Arabs called maths Hindisat (Art of the Hindus). Seife notes how the
Indian Zero and Void (actually Indian plenum/void not vacuum) notions
led to Arabs and Sephardic Jews abandoning Aristotle and reconsidering
Atomism and eventually such ideas spread to the Christians.
The notion of philosophia (Love of Divine Wisdom) also relates to the
Akasha. The inner Light of Pure Consciousness (RAS brainwaves) is called
Pure when mental activity ceases and the sensory superimpositions upon
the Light are stilled making it appear contentless. But careful refinement
of attention reveals that the empty Light is itself full of subtle (akashic)
content. The Buddhists say that each mind moment contains the
information of the entire universe. Thus the holonomy of transcendental
Reality (holistic interconnectedness of all phenomena) is realised as
Divine Wisdom or omniscience. True Divine inspiration involves teasing
out information from the inner Light or Godhead.
As Vedanta says of mystical union, the space within a jar becomes one
with the infinite space (akasha) when the jar is broken (i.e. the ego mind
dissolves in the inner Light which is one with the universal Light). Such
Creativity, paranormal psychic phenomena (violating supposed
immutable Laws) and Free Will (ego consciousness as self-agency) also
seem to be related to akashic resonances (the Yoga Sutras resonances of
Form in the akasha, equivalent to Jungian Synchronicity and Westernized
as morphic resonance) which ties in with Bohms notion of Active
Information linked to nonlocal effects.
Wolffs model, as it stands, seems to involve just normal 3D space without
the distinction between Euclidean STC created by sensory perception and
deeper transcendental, nonlocal reality perhaps associated with countless
Although Wolff rejects the probabilistic interpretations of QM associated
with Born etc., I think that there is a need retain notions like Bohms
Active Information and Heisenbergs potentia etc. as the full picture of
Reality must account for paranormal psychic phenomena (as in the work
of Helmut Schmidt or Robert Jahn using random radioactive decay) which
seem to suggest mental influence on the actualization of possibilities
represented by the Wave Function. Herbert also views Tantric Quantum
Reality as vibratory possibilities.
Nonetheless, Wolffs intuitively simple model is much superior to the
abstract energy, momentum prespace of Kantian Schommers and the
rather ad hoc causal and ontological interpretations of Bohm.
Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
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|Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:
|I really think mr Wolff has unearthed some intrinsic reality here. The IN/OUT wave function sit perfectly with my own simple music and number cycle diagrams. The 4.5 axis that I claim is axis/access point to the mirror side would equate to the point where the IN wave switches to the OUT wave. I see two touching triangles, tip to tip, with effortless swapping from one state to the other.
Milo Wolff got a lot of criticism from the mainstream lot over at physorg,
but I think he has successfully married science and spirit with his work.
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|Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: c
|many moons ago i typed that all these primal structures (still part of the illusion some say) are ultimately refined through manifestations in 3rd density (ie earth and it's entity's forms as well as behavioral characteristics).
above i mentioned sex. this seems obvious. this is one of these ultimate refinements (or "refinements" in many cases) in 3d.
what's odd here is how sex (mating/make up/muscles and hence reproduction really) is based on illusion. like the deceptive beauty of a girl; picture her bald. need some viagra?
the whole thing seems to be based or brought about through deception and or seduction.
Apart from the more primal polarity dynamic, this sex thing might be a trap door so to speak to keep 3rd density inhabited. this obviously does not apply to lower life forms. or does it? tis a chemical thing no?
if so, it's ("back") to (some slicky characteristic of) these structures (or structure's slicky interactive dynamic). sorry but, perhaps it's no coincidence about that grade school joke about making leaps at flying doughnuts...
then we have thanatos. (eros and) thanatos; as in the oroborus.
life feeds on life. now this seems to be the penultimate of universal Recursion......
(regarding that german tapered wave spin glyph) also note how our bodies have most of the complexity towards the head. that is, its like a contraction or condensation (or visa versa) - which fits with Eisen's tree of life model perfectly.
it all fits - by hook or crook - back into itself. Hecate Enthroned indeed.
btw, a few months ago i had a very powerful lucid dream. i actually awoke and fell back to sleep 3 times to return to this same lucid dream!!!
tho i was in the process of moving - which may've loosened up
stagnant energies - i'd like to think this was a dream straight from my higher self.
now a year later i read a report from a G. O'Donnell (sp? a teacher of remote viewing) about "divine spheres" (not to mention David Wilcock who relates the work of russian scientists who've found the same thing).
.... indeed, as to what we are discussing here and a host of other sites, i actually saw this most basic torus like sphere (now these underlie electrons and so forth apparently). he said that they tend to clump together ("of like vibration"). this is what i saw...
they were tiny, mostly yellow spheres with tiny yellow struts extending from the poles. i think there were hints of blue...they were clustered in loose formative groups of say, 12, or 20.
i suppose it changes constantly.
but this is us! this is your most connected (to Ground) aspect of Self. they Are the universe and so you are It.
so i find it absolutely pathetic how i can feel so disconnected and worthless much of the time. gee, wonder if seduction/illusion is the mother of various forms of disease to!?
to be clear here, i'm not simply talking chemistry. it's this superficial deception thing playing out every day (to Get To the chemical thing).
........ guess i'd like to find how these most primal divine points differentiate from electrons......or there's something all these great physicists are still not seeing.
just thought of the Anu, discovered by those 2 seers back in the 19th century. doh.
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|Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: exalted state
|Sex is a paradox that is for sure. it can bring together opposites and sometimes we see through the illusions of separateness. Do we all belong unified together one with each other through ourselves? Seduction can lead one away from their "duties", but money and power can also be a seductress. The word "sexy" is now used in public derogatorily. It plays on peoples fear and shame about sex and perhaps it shows their discomfort with their sexuality. Projection is a pernicious bastard. Now we know fear and shame is an illusion. If we could untangle all our baggage from our ideas about sex we would find ecstasy. The other side of the coin, ecstasy heals mind, body and spirit.
"in a frenzy or stupor, fearful, excited," from O.Fr. extasie, from L.L. extasis, from Gk. ekstasis "trance, distraction," from existanai "displace," also "drive out of one's mind" (existanai phrenon), from ek "out" + histanai "to place, cause to stand," from PIE base *sta- "to stand" (see stet). Used by 17c. mystical writers for "a state of rapture that stupefied the body while the soul contemplated divine things," which probably helped the meaning shift to "exalted state of good feeling" (1620).
Bernini’s “St. Theresa in Ecstasy”
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|Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject:
|urbanspaceman wrote: |
| As he mentioned the speed of light changes, but on the whole the change in velocity is not a lot, and certainly the speed of light does not go so fast that energy can be tranferred (ie. information sent) from the sun to the earth instantly. |
I like Milos work.
His standing wave theory...with the wave actually standing connects with several other interesting concepts.
i.e. is it a coincidence that PRIME numbers plotted as binary numbers make an obelisk shaped phallus that stands erect too?
Is the obelisk a representation of PRIME numbers?
Prime numbers are all odd with the exception of the number 2.
In the Yin Yang the odd numbers are MALE too, which associates nicely with the obelisk/phallus.
Also it is important to remember that WAVES do not roll along finally hitting the shoreline like we imagine....my understanding and a much better analogy would be the PISTON engine.
Waves rolling in toward the shore move the energy up and down like pistons.
Which brings us to the next FASTER THAN LIGHT fact of life?
CAN IT HAPPEN?
I believe it can.
And I believe all you need to do is imagine an invisible string connecting us to a distant star that exploded in 1054 AD...
Which actually happened.
It came from the constellation Taurus about 6500 light years away.
THE light from the SuperNova SN1054 reached us in 1054 but it exploded 6500 years before that.
So do the math.
1054 AD - 6500 years = 5446 BCE
I do find that very interesting for many reasons.
The main one is....that there was a FLOOD in the Black Sea Area about 5500-5600 BCE.
FACT of life is the following.
IF such a string did exist....then when this string was plucked, or maybe because of the SuperNova it *snapped* like guitar strings do, then guess what....the NOTE being played is essentially felt down the ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE STRING almost instantaneously.
So being 6500 LIGHTS YEARS distant....we felt a ripple, just a diminshed note of the original full note or vibration created when the star went super nova.
Musical Theory clearly SAYS if you have a string long enough, what I just explained can occur.
The VIBRATION is felt immediately along the entire length of the 'string'.
So the stages would be.
We feel the initial vibration...with the result we have the Black Sea Flood as documented in about 5500 BCE.
Then about 6500 years later we SEE THE LIGHT of this event.
And that is exactly what happened in 1054 AD.
For 23 days there was another visible apparition in the DAYTIME sky.
And for 653 NIGHTS, nearly two years, this extra BRIGHT star to compliment the SUN, the MOON, and planet VENUS was visible.
So how did the CHURCH record this event?
THE folks jockeying for position in the church used this celestial event to DIVIDE into the EASTern and WESTern Church, 12 days AFTER the JULY 4th event of 1054 AD.
So music theory along with the realization that WAVES move more like pistons, suggests that a cosmic 'combustion engine' can relay information across the universe FASTER THAN LIGHT.
MUCH MUCH MUCH FASTER
And underlying the concept is the music of the spheres theory of course.
And the entire galactic universal OPERATION is TIMED like a fireworks display...
ONLY instead of fireworks, we have stars exploding or imploding, two actions needed to create an asymmetrical perpetual cosmic engine.
And the best part is....we have a brand new reason for why our OZONE is suffering.
A GAMMA RAY BURST is the EVIL EYE sent out, like a laser beam, from an exploding star that goes SuperNova.
GRBs have been proved to harm the OZONE.
And ice core sample confirm the one in 1054 hit us pretty good.
And and once our OZONE, the defence shield was lowered, guess what comes in?
UV light being cast our direction by the SON of the distant Sun/Star the exploded in the Taurus constellation.
And this Son of the Sun is known as the Crab Nebula.
It is sending us UV rays from 6500 light years distant.
This is design.
Our OZONE was taken out with an intent.
We are part of a really big SOUND and LIGHT show, it appears.
By the way.
Our Neolithic ancestors FELT the initial star going Supernova in 5500 BCE.
Our middle ages ancestors SAW this event 6500 years later in 1054 AD.
So the only thing that remains ... when will the slower audible SOUND arrive?
OM, aum, anybody have any idea?
Or maybe there are other WAVES on their way still to come?
Stars that went SUPERNOVA 10,000 years ago, and the LIGHT is still to arrive?
KEY 528=Swastika=ancient Spherical Standing Wave Theory
“A theory is more impressive the greater is the simplicity of its premise, the more different are the kinds of things it relates and the more extended its range of applicability…”
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|Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: Ride the wave.
|Also germane to the issue is the vibrational nature of light and all other EMF. As "touchy-feely" as this may seem, just the way that the earth's own magnetic field varies in polarity and reverses field direction, we are part of that electric universe.
That we are becoming exposed to even more cosmic phenomena is all part of the ever-increasing influx of information of the evolutionary process. Consciousness is expanding as part of the process as well as in response to it.
We don't need to know everything there is to learn (indeed we cannot) as long as we learn how to know everything that we need.
The grand design, reflected in the face of Chaos.
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|Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:22 am Post subject:
|Seems to me that that chinaman's line about chopping wood and carrying water still applies in these times.
But I came across material (no longer have the link) about Cygnus X3. It is this celestial entity which is (demonstrably) behind much lore and ancient megalithic structures. Probably can find stuff with google with just that phrase. I got the gist and moved on. Ah, the significance was that this body is situated in or near the Dark Rift; that galactic zone considered a womb (aether condensing into matter) by various ancient cultures. A womb or portal to 4th or 5th density....
I might be able to add to the idea of pistons. I recently viewed a utube vid where the guy opined that (shall we say detectable) aether flow is mainly from the vertical axis. This was based on the model of the old Mike and More experiment. To me, it simply or nicely fits in with the torus. That aether sinks rule....
The thing I don't get here is that others have proven that the magnetic field around a magnet or even earth is shaped more like an 8. It doesn't flow Straight from N to S etc. It goes from N to then dimple in a the mid point/equator, to then expand back out and move on to S.
Perhaps this 8-ish shape reflects the star tetrahedron.
Anyway, there's also this russian guy who made a wooden platform where the "active ingredient" was Khatin from bug shells. He found that the structure of this material acted to what seems to be a (coupled) passive torsion generator. He was able to get this off the ground with him on it etc. So we've got some chaps getting closer to the elite's game I think.
Cool about the instantaneous transference. If so, there must be quite the cacophony. Didn't get the point about an intentional wipe of ozone tho. You must be referring to the fact it's all a big (I/O) Script.
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|Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject:
|Azoth wrote: |
Perhaps this 8-ish shape reflects the star tetrahedron.
or keep in mind that quantum particles with 1/2 spin need to rotate 720 degrees to make ONE complete rotation.
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