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Fintan
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Alex Jones Plays Rope-A-Dope with Ron Paul ? Reply with quote

Whenever things go quiet, the 'Imminent Attack on Iran'
thing gets floated. Can't have the peasants thinking Iraq
is the only problem, now can we?

Let's take a look at the end product Disinfo and track it back.

How do the Disinfo Merchants stoke up these kind of flames?

First we have had the Neocon whisper that only an escalation can save 'em.
Then the Homeland Security boss gets a gut feeling of an Al-Qaida attack....

Then they send a third carrier to join the two in the Gulf.

Shock Horror! They're GONNA INVADE !!!!!!

Quote:
US denies warship signals Gulf build-up

By Geoffrey Bew, 2th July 2007

THE US Navy yesterday denied that sending a third aircraft carrier to the Gulf was an escalation of forces in the region.Officials have confirmed the world's first nuclear powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise (CVN-65) is already on its way to the Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet area from its base in Norfolk, Virginia and is set to arrive in a matter of weeks.

It will join the aircraft carriers USS John C Stennis and USS Nimitz, which are already based in the Gulf to provide air support to ground troops operating in Iraq and Afghanistan. The last time more than two carriers were based in the Gulf was in 2003 when the allied forces went into Iraq.

But navy officials stressed the vessel's deployment has nothing to do with heightened tensions with Iran, saying whatever the number of vessels present, they were there only for peaceful purposes.

Navy spokesman Lt Tom Porter told the GDN the departure of other US aircraft carriers in the Gulf was "extremely likely", but could not confirm if the USS Enterprise would be swapped with a vessel already in the region.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=187560&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=30114

Pretend you didn't read that last bit about the third carrier being just a
swap for one of the other two. We are up and running!

Now for another vaporware creation.
Here's the spin on NewsMax:

Quote:
Israel 'Approved' to Strike Iran

Friday, July 13, 2007 10:00 a.m. EDT

Israel’s Minister of Strategic Affairs said he has received approval from the U.S. and Europe for an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

"If we start military operations against Iran alone, then Europe and the U.S. will support us,” Avigdor Lieberman said following a meeting with NATO and European Union officials.

Lieberman said the Western powers recognized the Iranian nuclear threat to Israel, Israel Today magazine reported. But military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan are "going to prevent the leaders of countries in Europe and America from deciding on the use of force to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities,” and they are sending the message that Israel should "prevent the threat herself.”

© NewsMax 2007. All rights reserved.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/7/13/100257.shtml?s=ic

Here's the same spin on Huffington Post:

Quote:
Has the US Given Israel a "Green Light" to Attack Iran?

July 12, 2007

It may sound preposterous, but apparently Avigdor Lieberman, Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs, is claiming that the US and Europe have given Israel a green light to attack Iran. Israel Today reports.....

If U.S. officials think that they can attack Iran by proxy using Israel without putting U.S. forces in the region in greater danger, they are living in a dangerous fantasy land. An attack on Iran by Israel is tantamout to an attack on Iran by the United States. Congress has just as much responsibility to prevent the former as it does to prevent the latter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/has-the-us-given-israel-a_b_56010.html

So let's go check back with the source of this amazing information about
the Green Light for an Israeli attack. The initial report is on Israel Today.

Quote:
Lieberman: US will back Israeli strike on Iran

Wednesday, July 11, 2007 by Staff Writer

Israeli Minister of Strategic Affairs Avigdor Lieberman said on Tuesday that he received the tacit blessing of Europe and the United States for an Israeli military strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

“If we start military operations against Iran alone, then Europe and the US will support us,” Lieberman told Army Radio following a meeting earlier in the week with NATO and European Union officials.

Lieberman said the Western powers acknowledged the severity of the Iranian nuclear threat to the Jewish state, but said that ongoing conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq are “going to prevent the leaders of countries in Europe and America from deciding on the use of force to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities,” even if diplomacy ultimately fails.

The message Lieberman said the NATO and EU officials conveyed to him is that Israel should “prevent the threat herself.”

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=13407


Pretty clear eh?

Until you check with the Jerusalem Post account of the same events,
instead of relying on the Israel Today rag:

Quote:
Lieberman: Europe leaving Israel to deal with Iran

By JPOST.COM STAFF Jul. 10, 2007 10:48

Strategic Affairs Minister Avigdor Lieberman said on Tuesday morning that it looked more and more as if Europe would leave Israel to deal with the Iranian nuclear threat on its own.

"Winds of Chamberlain are blowing in Europe," he said in an interview with Army Radio, in which he addressed an article in Yediot Aharonot that said NATO leaders had told him Israel could not rely on the international community to prevent Iran's nuclear armament.

"When I hear from a respected prime minister like [Italian Prime Minister] Romano Prodi that Israel should agree to a peaceful Iranian nuclear program, it seems like something surrealistic," he said. "The political situation is such that they are trying to turn this into our problem alone."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1183980040648&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

WTF!! Spin Spin Spin Spin Spin
The Jpost article is the total reverse of the Israel Today account.

The former has the US & EU saying to Israel: "Get Lost!"

But after a brief Spin Cycle....

The latter has the US & EU saying to Israel: "Go Ahead!"

This is going Great!

Now they have a vaporware "Go Ahead!" meme up and running....

Time to deploy Mr DisInfoWars Himself, Alex "Hypemeister" Jones....

Who drags Cindy Sheehan on air to hyperventilate about all the imminent
concentration camps, martial law hysteria which the crew of CIA infiltrators
around her have been priming her with for years....

"Cindy, I just heard on the D.C. grapevine that Bush is going for it!"... etc...

Naturally, with a little arm-waving encouragement from ol' AJ, Cindy obliges...

Allowing MI5's Man on the Spot to write this report:

Quote:
Sheehan: Distinct Chance Of Staged Attack, Martial Law

Peace Mom warns of false flag terror as she prepares to take on sell-out Pelosi

Paul Joseph Watson- Prison Planet - Thursday, July 12, 2007


Cindy Sheehan, the famous Peace Mom who recently expressed her intention to run against Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco, says there's a "distinct possibility" that America will be hit with another staged terror attack that will allow Bush to enact the martial law provisions he recently signed into law.

Sheehan spoke to The Alex Jones Show as she prepares to embark on a two week trek towards Washington to confront Pelosi.

Asked what she thought of numerous recent comments on behalf of politicians, military analysts and GOP kingpins that the Bush administration needs more terror to save a doomed foreign policy, along with recent legislation that establishes the framework for martial law in the event of an emergency, Sheehan was open to the plausibility that another false flag attack could be visited upon the American people....

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/120707distinctchance.htm

Excellent.

NOW for the final move in the buildup....

It's time for AJ to play Rope-A-Dope with Dr. Ron Paul.

Quote:
Ron Paul: U.S. In "Great Danger" Of Staged Terror

Congressman & presidential candidate warns of economic collapse precipitated by bombing of Iran

Prison Planet | July 13, 2007 Paul Joseph Watson

Presidential candidate Ron Paul says the U.S. is in "great danger" of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation while also warning that a major collapse of the American economy is on the horizon and could be precipitated by the bombing of Iran and the closure of the Persian Gulf.

Speaking to The Alex Jones Show, the Texas Congressman was asked his opinion on Cindy Sheehan's recent comments that the U.S. is in danger of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, as well as public pronouncements from prominent officials that the West needs terrorism to save a doomed foreign policy.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/ron_paul_us_in_great_danger_of_staged_terror.htm


Nice piece of Work!

Ron Paul has been primed well with all this Neocon Lunatics Iran Attack fever.
Alex Jones threw it all at him in the first seconds of his interview, before
Paul could exercise his judgement correctly.

Listen to Ron Paul on Alex Jones: http://breakfornews.com/audio/130707RonPaul-AlexJones.mp3

And Finally....

Quote:
Ron Paul: Conspiracy Theorist

Posted Jul 13th 2007 12:41PM by Scott

We've known for quite some time that Ron Paul is a "9/11 Truther" (or at least supported by those who are)--one who believes that 9/11 was done with the knowledge or complicity of the Bush administration. Now he's agreeing that conspiracies that have not yet happened will in fact come to pass:

Speaking to The Alex Jones Show, the Texas Congressman was asked his opinion on Cindy Sheehan's recent comments that the U.S. is in danger of a staged terror attack or a Gulf of Tonkin style provocation that will validate the Neo-Con agenda and lead to the implementation of the infrastructure of martial law that Bush recently signed into law via executive order, as well as public pronouncements from prominent officials that the West needs terrorism to save a doomed foreign policy.

"I think we're in great danger of it," responded the Congressman, "We're in danger in many ways, the attack on our civil liberties here at home, the foreign policy that's in shambles and our obligations overseas and commitment which endangers our troops and our national defense."

He believes that a terror attack will be staged to allow the evil Neo-cons of the Bush administration unimpeded access to attack Iran.

OK, I've had serious issues with Ron Paul's campaign. Besides his hypocrisy on earmarks and other issues, he's pretty much been...well, sane. Now, I'm not quite sure.

Here we have a presidential candidate (sure, one who is polling at 0%) who is saying on the record that he believes the current administration is capable of faking a terror attack, which will kill people, simply to advance their ideology. That's not campaigning, that's in the realm of JFK conspiracy theorists and Heavens Gate......

Ron Paul's campaign has attracted a large Internet following, one that is boisterous and vocal (watch the comments to this post), but to think that they could defend this is preposterous and downright scary. The thought of the Ron Paul Brigades in tin hats is, of course, amusing though.

http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/07/13/ron-paul-conspiracy-theorist/


Of course another possiblilty is that Ron Paul was playing along with
the hysteria... You can make that call yourself.

But either way, I'd like to send my congratulations to the CIA-Fake Slimeballs.

Take a Bow Everybody.

MISSION ACOMPLISHED!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are you saying Fintan?

That nothing is going to happen?

Remember, we are heading into the 5th night in a few months - I believe something is going to happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If something does happen, and Alex "the prophet" Jones has made the call, it seems like we would have all the makings for a domestic "retaliation" incident from some of AJ's followers. I'm not sure if there is a specific reason why "domestic incident" has become the new phrase that is automatically associated with AJ, but if there is anything to it...

Imagine:

Rudy "911" Giuliani vs. Ron "The Truth" Paul

Cindy "Weepy" Sheehan vs. Nancy "Blinky" Pelosi

Alex Jones threatening the "Redshields" from an undisclosed location

That all might be a little much. The 911 "truth" movement doesn't seem to be big enough to be squashed just yet. Maybe just a little hype to fully discredit Dr. Paul and Cindy Sheehan and keep some of their inconvenient truths from reaching the surface?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:

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Of course another possiblilty is that Ron Paul was playing along with
the hysteria... You can make that call yourself.


It seemed as if AJ and Ron were having a "scare phrase" competition!

Quick count, in 100 seconds we heard "danger" 6 times, "terror" 3 times, "attack" twice and "war" once.

Dr. Paul brought up Iran all on his own. AJ didn't refer to Iran specifically. Hmmm...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AJ goes bananas.....guess we're not the only ones seeing thru his BS.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/140707nodoubting.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrewTerry wrote:
So what are you saying Fintan?

That nothing is going to happen?

Remember, we are heading into the 5th night in a few months - I believe something is going to happen.


Put your head back under your pillow and wake up after this OP is over.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of us here don't watch the MSM talk shows, I've only seen the gamut of schills through watching anywhere that Ron gets an interview.

What emerges is a pattern across the spectrum of venues that have had him on. ABC, MSNBC, Bill Mahr, and the high profile MSM outlets. But unlike the other candidates Ron accepts interviews with anyone because his priority is exposure to as many people as can be reached.

But there is a pattern to how these interviews are conducted. In fact please do watch every Ron Paul interview and see what you see.
The schills and cointelpro media guys and gals tip their hand, for when you see the clear pattern of set-up you see they each spring a topic heavily charged with 'conspiracy nut' or 'Patriot movement extremist' memes, to accomplish 'guilt by association'.

So THAT'S the frameup, that's the cointel op. AJ is doing it too, he may as well be working for ABC, MSNBC. The entrapment is the same.

Ron Paul hasn't promoted this tiresome Iran 'scare' op they've been pulling twice a year since 2003. AJ's interview is a setup to make it appear that he his.

One value for the smear op is to make it appear RP is saying to be scared of imminent attack of Iran, and 'false flag' domestic acts... which he is not.
The long term value is that when it doesn't happen, RP will look as flaky as Tom Flocco and AJ and such cointelpro pied pipers later on when the MSM goes to work undermining his support for reopening further investigation of 911.

As for Jones.....pay no attention to the big fat slob behind the curtain. That guy gets far too much attention from people. He's never right, his predictions never come off, and he's a fear monger. That's his job.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Fintan is right. They don't need a terror attack to carry out the plans for the USA. Once they chip use and the chip has a 'kill' switch we'll be done.

The commercials deriding anyone who doesn't swipe their card (chipped hand now in card form but later embedded) while in line slows down the shopping experience thus the economy. It won't take much to tell everyone an embedded chip is more comfortable and secure. Once the chip is in your body kiss your cognition goodbye once most people are chipped.

You think embedded media with the troops is something, wait till its embedded in you.

They don't need a terror alert to do that. They need terror to illegally invade and occupy other nations and sovereign people.

Fintan, your analysis rocks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navari wrote:
DrewTerry wrote:
So what are you saying Fintan?

That nothing is going to happen?

Remember, we are heading into the 5th night in a few months - I believe something is going to happen.


Put your head back under your pillow and wake up after this OP is over.
Fuck Off Navari.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrewTerry wrote:
navari wrote:
DrewTerry wrote:
So what are you saying Fintan?

That nothing is going to happen?

Remember, we are heading into the 5th night in a few months - I believe something is going to happen.


Put your head back under your pillow and wake up after this OP is over.
Fuck Off Navari.


DrewTerry you have a valid point. Even if the Hidden Hand doesn't need violence to take over the United States they do love violence and inflicting pain on others. They really don't need a reason, just the opportunity.

Others may laugh, I'm still gonna lock my doors.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help wondering why some of the forum members who hanker after action all the time...don't learn how to translate Mr.Dunne's little story flow above into a simple graphic flash movie to post on youtube.

Robert's 2nd Law of Psyop dynamics states that

"Thinking up new tricks is far more resource depleting than re-using old tricks.
Thus anyone wanting to resist the operation merely has to expose the contemporary trick efficiently rather than have to think up anything new."

Robert
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Fintan I think Jones as wild as he sounds, can be playing the role of the “Boy who cried wolf”. When they march in our neighborhoods to do the damage he speaks of it will be his – “boy who cried wolf” antics that help them do that with immunity.

When Jones goes silent, thats when we should whatch out, become really vigilant
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