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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Documents: Medical Examiners' Report on Benazir Bhutto Reply with quote

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the Collins Brothers give everything a Christian Spin but their data seems accurate...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotland Yard: Bhutto killed by bomb, not bullet

The British investigators also said that the evidence indicates only one assailant in the fatal attack on the former Pakistani prime minister.
By Arthur Bright

from the February 9, 2008 edition

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was killed by the impact of a suicide bomber's blast, not by gunshot, according to Scotland Yard detectives. The detectives' report, which was unveiled Friday, largely confirms the initial findings of Pakistani authorities, who have been accused by Ms. Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) of covering up evidence.

In an official summary of the Scotland Yard report, Detective John MacBrayne writes that "all the evidence indicates that one suspect has fired the shots before detonating an improvised explosive device," though he notes that access to evidence was limited.

The task of establishing exactly what happened was complicated by the lack of an extended and detailed search of the crime scene, the absence of an autopsy, and the absence of recognised body recovery and victim identification processes. Nevertheless, the evidence that is available is sufficient for reliable conclusions to be drawn. ...

[UK Home Office pathologist Dr Nathaniel Cary] states: "The only tenable cause for the rapidly fatal head injury in this case is that it occurred as the result of impact due to the effects of the bomb blast.

"In my opinion, Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto died as a result of a severe head injury sustained as a consequence of the bomb blast and due to head impact somewhere in the escape hatch of the vehicle."

The report adds that x-rays of Bhutto's head, when taken with the accounts of those who washed her body for burial, indicates that she was not shot. In addition, the detectives found no evidence of a second assailant, despite early reports that Bhutto was attacked both by a man with a gun and a suicide bomber. The evidence, the report says, suggests the shooter and the bomber were one in the same.

The BBC writes that "the exact cause of death may help shed light on who was behind the attack. Ms Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) has suggested that if sophisticated weaponry were used it could indicate the involvement of elements of the [Pakistani] security establishment." A lethal impact from the bomb blast would not strengthen the PPP's contention that the Pakistani government was involved.

Agence France-Presse writes that the PPP doubts Scotland Yard's findings, and still believes Bhutto was fatally shot.

"The party is still looking at the Scotland Yard report -- however, it is difficult to agree with its findings on the cause of death," Pakistan People's Party spokeswoman Sherry Rehman told AFP.

"We do believe that she was killed by an assassin's bullet," she added.

The New York Times writes that Scotland Yard's report, released just 10 days before Pakistan's upcoming parliamentary elections, is unlikely to end the accusations over Bhutto's death.

The findings are certain to be met with widespread skepticism, especially from Mrs. Bhutto's supporters who blame the government for her death, in particular Mr. Musharraf and the leading politician of the party that backs him, Pervez Elahi. They also are unlikely to calm the turmoil in the country now that the 40 days of mourning has ended.

[Bhutto's widower, Asif Ali] Zardari and his party's supporters say they believe she was shot, as do people who were riding with Ms. Bhutto when she died on Dec. 27 after her vehicle came under attack as she left a political rally in Rawalpindi.

The doctors who treated Ms. Bhutto told a member of the hospital board, an eminent lawyer, Athar Minallah, that she had most likely been shot. Ms. Bhutto's brazen killing set off days of violent protests and rioting across Pakistan. To allay public anger and to lend credibility to the investigations into the assassination plot, Mr. Musharraf invited a team of Scotland Yard forensic experts to assist Pakistani investigators in early January.

The campaign ahead of the Feb. 18 polls is entering full swing, and the PPP is gearing up now that mourning period for Bhutto has ended, reports The Christian Science Monitor. The party is planning its first campaign rally Saturday.

The Times of London notes that Britain's reliance on Pakistani cooperation in antiterrorism efforts meant that Scotland Yard was compelled to respond favorably to Musharraf's request.

The request from Islamabad was not an easy one for Sir Ian Blair, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, to refuse. Almost every terrorist attack or plot against Britain in the past five years has had links to Pakistan and the al-Qaeda training camps in its tribal areas. Access to Pakistan and cooperation with its police and intelligence services is essential to Scotland Yard and the relationship can be fragile.

The release of the Scotland Yard report comes just a day after Pakistani authorities announced the arrest of two men suspected to have aided the suicide bomber who killed Bhutto. Dawn newspaper of Pakistan reports that one official said the two men, whom he described as "very important terrorists," were being interrogated by the police. The men are relatives of a man and a 15-year-old arrested in late January in connection with the attack. The teenager, Aitezaz Shah, admitted to being a back-up suicide bomber for the Bhutto attack.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOME blog COMMENTS, including by some Pakistanis.

Is Musharraf aligning with the Islamists to retain power? It wouldn't be the first time a Muslim ruler would sell out to the clerics to continue dictatorship.

Yup. Musharaff is currently detaining dissidents, and releasing senior Taliban commanders.

They released Mullah Obaidullah Akhund—the highest-ranking Taliban official ever captured by Pakistan


Pakistan's politics are unintelligible because it remains a feudal society by and large. The Bhuttos are just one bunch of feudalists. The politics is riven by tribal allegiance. Imran Khan (Brit-Paki cricket star kidnapped by Islamists in 2007 and turned over to Musharraf for attempting to incite an uprising) is a prince in Pakistani social arrangements -- by birth. He also became an Islamist, which is rather like Prince Charles becoming a tampon.
Opposition to Musharraf and Bush
Khan supported General Pervez Musharraf's military coup in 1999, but denounced his presidency a few months before the 2002 general elections. Many political commentators and his opponents termed Khan's change in opinion an opportunistic, rather than principled, move. "I regret supporting the referendum. I was made to understand that when he won, the general would begin a clean-up of the corrupt in the system. But really it wasn't the case," Khan later explained.[19] During the 2002 election season, he also voiced his opposition towards Pakistan's logistical support to US troops for the war in Afghanistan. Campaigning in Kamar Mushani, he told the crowd that their country had become a "servant of America."[19] Khan subsequently voted in favor of the pro-Taliban Islamist candidate for prime minister in 2002, bypassing Musharraf's choice.[18]

On May 6, 2005, Khan became one of the first Muslim leaders to criticize a 300-word Newsweek story about the alleged desecration of the Qur'an in a U.S. military prison at the Guantánamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba. Khan held a press conference to denounce the article and demanded that Gen. Pervez Musharraf secure an apology from American president George W. Bush for the incident.[18] Khan has been a vocal critic of Pakistan's alliance with the United States, especially in fighting the so-called War on Terror. In 2006, he exclaimed, "Musharraf is sitting here, and he licks George Bush’s shoes!" Criticizing other Muslim leaders supportive of the Bush administration, he added, "They are the puppets sitting on the Muslim world. We want a sovereign Pakistan. We do not want a president to be a poodle of George Bush."[29] During George W. Bush's visit to Pakistan in March 2006, Khan was placed under house arrest after having threatened to organise a protest against the American president's implicit support for dictatorship in Pakistan. In Islamabad, Khan was picked up in a restaurant and locked in his home.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Main points: Scotland Yard report on Bhutto

Times Online

February 8, 2008


The Scotland Yard team charged with establishing the cause of the death of Benazir Bhutto conclude that she was propelled by a bomb blast into the lip of the escape hatch of the armoured vehicle in which she was leaving a rally in Rawalpindi on December 27 last year.

They believe that the attack was a single-man operation, that the gunman identified in media footage of the bombing was also the suicide bomber who was close behind the vehicle and whose blast killed the leader of Pakistan’s opposition party.

Their attempts to establish these conclusions were hampered by a lack of available evidence.

They complain of a lack of “an extended and detailed search of the crime scene, the absence of an autopsy and the absence of recognised body recovery and victim identification processes”.

Instead the team relied heavily on X-rays of Mrs Bhutto’s head, taken at the Rawalpindi General Hospital following her death – verified as genuine via a comparison with her dental records. They also spoke to medical staff who were involved in her treatment and to family members who washed her body before burial.

Her only apparent injury was a major trauma to the right side of her head.

The UK experts agreed that this was not an entry or exit gunshot wound.

Accounts from medical staff and family helped them discount the idea that she could have been shot in her torso or lower body - she was in any case largely inside an armoured vehicle.

With only limited X-ray material, without a full post-mortem examination and without the more detailed images that could have been provided by a CT-scan, investigators could not categorically rule out the possibility that she was shot in the neck or upper body, though the evidence suggests there was not.

The possibility of any such gunshot wound became irrelevant to the business of establishing the cause of death when the investigators examined the severity of her head injury.

'“The only tenable cause” of this injury, according to the Home Office pathologist consulted, was an impact caused by a bomb blast.

The injury was too severe to have been sustained while simply ducking down into the vehicle.

They say the type of high explosives used in the attack, so close to Mrs Bhutto, would generate “significantly more force than would be necessary” to cause such a head injury.

The escape hatch was not, as has been reported, a sunroof.

It was designed to be used solely as a means of escape from the armoured vehicle, which itself was designed to withstand gunfire and bomb-blasts.

The hatch has a solid lip with a depth of 9mm.

The investigators say her head injury is “entirely consistent” with a collision with this lip.

This conclusion was backed up using video footage in which her head does not completely disappear from view until 0.6 seconds before the blast. Then she moves forward and to the right as she ducks down into the vehicle.

“The overwhelming conclusion must be that she did not succeed in getting her head entirely below the lip of the escape hatch when the explosion occurred,” the report states.

Contrary to speculation that two attackers were involved, a gunmen and a suicide bomber, the investigators conclude that the gunman was also the bomber, and offer three reasons for this conclusion.

Media footage shows the gunman behind the vehicle and does not show any other attacker.

A forensic explosive expert placed the bomb blast as originating from the same place, between 1-2 metres from the back of the vehicle with no-one in between. If there was another attacker in the same place, it is highly unlikely that he would have survived.

Body parts from only one individual remain unidentified: experts believe these come from the suicide bomber.

The investigators concluded that the gunman fired the shots before detonating the bomb.

Yeah, right.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: The Pakistani Next Level Reply with quote

The Pakistani Next Level (at least one other angle)


1. The assassination was pre-planned and executed via traingulation and the most modern weapons available in the market by Khad, RAW, CIA and Mossad.
2. The purpose of the covert Khad, RAW, CIA, Mossad operations is to destabilize Pakistan
3. The goal of the destabilization is to secure Pakistani nukes.
4. We now present the thesis and the proof from a plethora of sources.

THE CIA connection… BENAZIR BHUTTO’S ASSASSINATION WAS PRE-PLANNED: THE ZIA MODEL WITH A TWIST:The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. THE GREAT GAME CONTINUES: When the Elephants dance, the grass gets crushed. The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. Another Pakistani leaders falls to an internation game betwen the USA, and China and Russia, and Paksitanis again pay the price
Posted on December 28, 2007 by moinansari

“Babar disclosed that the slain PPP chairperson had personally informed him of threats to her life at the hands of some influential elements within Pakistan.

Sophistication of the operation carried out to assassinate the PPP chairperson is beyond the capability of criminal gangs,” Babar said.

“Meanwhile, a source who, too, had frank interaction with Benazir told this correspondent that she was aware of an international conspiracy to destabilise and de-nuclearise Pakistan. He said that many things that she used to say in public during the last few months of her life were far from her conviction.

She, the source said, had the realisation what was brewing in certain parts of Pakistan, particularly in the tribal belt could be properly addressed through dialogue and political means that she wanted to pursue once she got into the corridors of power.

However, contrary to these revelations about her real objectives, Benazir Bhutto’s return from self-exile was full of risks because of Washington’s overt support for her to be the next prime minister of Pakistan.

Despite strong anti-US feeling, the US authorities, including the State Department officials, issued repeated statements in her favour, knowing well that the post-9/11 policies had increased the anti-US feelings to an all-time high in the Muslim world, especially in Pakistan.

However, against the general perception, things were not smooth between Benazir Bhutto and Washington as has now been confirmed by veteran Washington Post journalist Robert D Novak (don't know how to trust his article), who wrote in the prestigious US newspaper on Monday that before her death Benazir Bhutto had distanced herself from a US-brokered power-sharing deal between her and President Musharraf.

Robert revealed that Ms Bhutto had sent a written complaint to a senior State Department official, saying her camp no longer viewed the backstage US move as a good faith effort towards democracy. The US paper also wrote that in return to her several pleas, seeking US assistance for better security, the US reaction was that she was worried over nothing, expressing assurance that President Musharraf would not let anything happen to her.

Lt-Gen (retd) Jamshed Gulzar Kayani, who was amongst those serving generals at the time who had voiced their opposition to the post-9/11 Islamabad’s war on terror policy, when contacted told this correspondent that Pakistan’s nuclear programme had been the main target of the world’s most influential capitals, who wanted to see this country unstable and chaotic so that they could get hold of our nuclear assets.

Kayani, who had the reputation of a professional soldier and had also served the ISI, besides holding key military positions, believes that Benazir’s killing was part of an international conspiracy executed with active connivance of local players to create such a situation in Pakistan that suits those hell-bent on de-nuclearising Pakistan.

A government official told this correspondent that there were many pointing fingers at someone sitting in Islamabad or the country’s indefinable establishment for the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. He believed that although only a fair, independent and thorough probe would possibly solve the riddle as to who was behind Benazir’s assassination, no one in the government could draw any benefit out of this horrendous act and the post-Benazir situation had proven that rulers were actually at the receiving end.

The source said though some local players might be involved in this, the mastermind seemed to be sitting in a distant foreign land. Ansar Abbasi, The News

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bhutto hit fails to secure Musharraf.

The war against Islamist forces was always a sham aimed at
fostering limited resistance, not neutralizing it. It seems Pakistan's
legal & intellectual circles now appreciate this fully.
(See para in red below)

So, I wonder where U.S strategy goes now?
Underground... into the ISI/Military I suppose...

Coalition Pact a New Blow for Musharraf


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — President Pervez Musharraf is running out of options. Legal complexities may save him in the short-term, but few expect him to hold on for long, raising fresh uncertainty over Pakistan's support for the aggressive U.S. approach to fighting radical Islamic groups.

The declaration by the winners of last month's parliamentary elections that they will form a coalition government and reinstate judges sacked by Musharraf has robbed the president of his last trump card: division in the political opposition.

Parliament is to convene in the next week or so. Within a month of the new Cabinet being formed, the ruling parties say they will vote to restore the judges — setting up a legal fight with Musharraf that could drag on for weeks or months but which he has little prospect of winning.

"The die is pretty much cast for him," said Pakistani political analyst Nasim Zehra, a fellow at Harvard University's Asia Center. "He can't survive in the sense of being the man who calls the shots. He can insist on staying in office as it all unravels around him."

A year of turmoil triggered by Musharraf's clumsy attempt to oust the independent-minded chief justice robbed him of public support. He has since lost the aces he held for most of his eight-year rule: command of the army, a supportive parliament and unqualified Western backing.

Amid growing public resentment over military rule, the parties of slain opposition leader Benazir Bhutto and another ex-prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, won 63 percent of the parliament seats and seized the political center stage after being sidelined since Musharraf seized control in a 1999 coup.

While the victors remain short of the two-thirds parliamentary majority needed to impeach the president, their agreement Sunday to set aside long-standing rivalries and team up leaves the retired general on the defensive.

"It is a defining moment in Pakistan's political history," said Rasul Bakhsh Rais, a political scientist at Lahore's University of Management Sciences. "The mainstream political forces in the country have a unanimity of views on the most fundamental issue facing the country: to get Pakistan on the track of constitutional democracy and a parliamentary form of government."

If restored, the Supreme Court could revisit the legality of Musharraf's October re-election as president by the previous parliament. The court had been set to rule on that issue when Musharraf imposed emergency rule Nov. 3 and purged its ranks.

Musharraf, who stacked the court with sympathetic judges, maintains that restoring the deposed justices is not legally possible.

Whether a simple majority vote is enough to restore the pre-November judiciary is the subject of dispute — one of the many legal conundrums facing Pakistan as it grapples with the transition to civilian government.

A prominent Musharraf ally, former government spokesman Tariq Azim, on Monday repeated the president's insistence that he will not step down despite widespread clamor for him to resign. "A person who is in the saddle still commands the horse," Azim said.

Azim said the traditionally fierce competition between the parties of Bhutto and Sharif — who alternated in power in short-lived governments in the 1990s — could resurface.

Political analyst Ikram Sehgal also raised that possibility, saying the leader of Bhutto's party, her widower, Asif Ali Zardari, might have agreed to the coalition pact to play for time on the issue of judges.

Zardari, who was known as "Mr. 10 Percent" for allegedly profiting from kickbacks during his wife's time in power, will be wary that the restored judges could challenge a corruption amnesty introduced by Musharraf last year, he said.

"It would put Zardari in trouble straight away. It would be like taking an ax to his own feet," Sehgal said.

Yet to resist calls for the judges to be reinstated — including detained ex-chief justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry — would draw the ire of Pakistan's lawyers, who have become popular by braving tear gas and police batons to lead opposition to Musharraf.

The unpopular president's own capacity to fight is limited.

While the current Supreme Court is pliant and Musharraf retains the authority to dissolve parliament, exploiting either power would risk an uproar.

Nor can he order in the military if his presidency is under threat. Musharraf retired as army chief in November, and his successor says the generals want to stay out of politics.

U.S. officials have also begun a discreet realignment, stressing that Washington's alliance is with Pakistan not Musharraf alone — a shift from calling the president "indispensable" in the fight against the Taliban and al-Qaida and their sympathizers in Pakistan's tribal region along the border with Afghanistan.

The changing political landscape could have ramifications for U.S. policy on how to combat attacks on American forces in Afghanistan and capture extremist leaders hiding in Pakistan.

Pakistan's new civilian rulers will be more wary of the military offensives Musharraf pursued in the frontier region — a campaign that proved unpopular with Pakistanis and has been blamed by many here for the surge in extremist violence across the country.

Sharif has said he wants to negotiate an end to Islamic militancy rather than use force. Western officials are skeptical about whether that will work, but they recognize that a year of turmoil has badly undercut the president.

"Musharraf still has time to make a decision of bowing out with grace and be remembered for some positive things that he did," said Zehra, the Harvard fellow. "His staying on only creates more embarrassment and problems."

Matthew Pennington, chief of The Associated Press bureau in Islamabad, has reported on Pakistan since 2003.


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Things are hotting up already, especially in the strategically
vital Punjab, where "terrorists" have upped activity of late:
Until recently, Lahore had been spared the suicide attacks that
have struck all other major cities in the past year. But now it has suffered
three attacks within two months. On Jan. 10, a militant walked into a crowd
of police guarding a courthouse and blew himself up, killing 24. A double
suicide attack in Lahore killed four people at a navy training college last week.

Pakistan's equivalent of the 'FBI', in Lahore, the latest target:

Two suicide bombs kill 24 in Pakistan

By Salman Masood - March 11, 2008

ISLAMABAD: Two powerful explosions, just minutes apart and both of them suicide attacks, rocked the eastern Pakistani city of Lahore on Tuesday, killing 24 people, the Interior Ministry said.

The first blast ripped through the Lahore regional office of the Federal Investigation Agency, Pakistan's chief federal law enforcement agency, killing 12 agency officials and nine others. A suicide bomber exploded his car packed with explosives near the entrance to the parking area outside the agency building.

In the second attack, which occurred minutes after the first explosion and several kilometers away across the city, two people drove a small pickup truck up to a house that was being used as an office for an advertising company in Model Town, an upscale residential neighborhood, according to Interior Ministry and police officials.

They exploded themselves and the truck, destroying the front of the house and damaging neighboring buildings, and killing three people, two of them children, according to the Interior Ministry.

These bombs were no firecrackers. They were massive.
Note the level of superstructure damage to the FIA building.
All the way up to the sixth floor we see structural damage:

Here's a close-up showing concrete-stripped rebar,
an indication that high-speed explosive was used:

View from inside the stairwell:

Finally, take a look at the crater from the other blast site:

Yeah, clearly not amateur efforts.
Expect more of the same.
And worse.

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This fantastic website, constantly chatting up lines from The Grand Chessboard, explains Bhutto's death with a twist ... in her own words.

It's SIMILAR to the explanation here, except it includes ISI officers complaining of not being able to operate independently of the CIA, and more nefarious CIA and Embassy related sabotage of Pakistan.

Beyond, Zahir Ebrahim, this California guy from Pakistan is very good at showing the Grand Chessboard template over the actions of the Neo-cons and everything else, and some key quotations.

I often wonder if Jesus really has the power to wash away the sins of mass murderers of humanity who commit these monumental crimes in his name or to bring his arrival sooner? Is there some special exclusion clause that makes these monumental criminals exempt from Divine Justice? Hmmm, perhaps I am in the wrong religion - my God assures us of Divine Justice - take a misstep in this life and you shall pay in the next. Kill one innocent person and it is akin to having killed entire humanity. Wow, I dare not commit murder or become a suicide bomber out of sheer desperation while I am Muslim, or else I will have eternal damnation to look forward to. May be I should become an Evangelical Christian first if I ever get mad enough? Or perhaps a Christian Zionist? Or maybe just a Zionist? For then I will be in the company of George Bush and he will surely save me. Doesn't he walk with the lord and communicate with him directly? Na, such a hypocrite 'religion', whatever the name, and such a hypocrite 'savior', whatever its name, is not for me!

I just as soon take my chances in Islam where at least the God claims He is the "Most Just". For what other philosophy is there that is so firmly rooted in justice? Which other god has the same emphasis on justice? Perhaps the humanist's god? But they have no god, and with them, justice denied in the world, is justice denied period. But in Islam, there is a promise of fair justice that keeps a victim's hope alive. But I generally tend to be too impatient. Justice meted out elsewhere is also justice denied here - even when there is the firm promise of it in the future - I like to see it administered right here and now, for the victims too are right here and now.

Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?

In her own words!

With deepest condolences to the grieving nation

Zahir Ebrahim


February 04, 2008.

(updated February 05, 2008)

(A version submitted to Daily Times and Dawn)

© Project HumanbeingsfirstTM. Permission granted to use freely as per copyright notice.

Almost every English daily in Pakistan has carried some coverage of Benazir Bhutto's posthumously published book in the UK. The Daily Times on February 05, 2008, in its editorial, wrote: 'A London newspaper has published excerpts from Ms Benazir Bhutto’s posthumous book “Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West” in which she has revealed that Al Qaeda agents and some people from the Musharraf establishment were involved in the plot to kill her'. In Dawn's column of February 04, 2008, titled “Benazir’s ‘last testament’ gives hint about plot to kill her”, Benazir was also quoted, stating: “When I returned, I did not know whether I would live or die. I knew that the same elements of Pakistani society that had colluded to destroy my father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, and end democracy in Pakistan in 1977 were now arrayed against me for the same purpose exactly 30 years later.”

It is instructive to quote Brig. Tirmazi, the Director of ISI at the time of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, from his 1995 memoirs 'Profiles of Intelligence', where the erstwhile spymaster asserts the following:

The US Plays its Role. According to some candid intelligence estimates, the US was fully involved in exploiting the situation by guiding and aiding the opposition political parties and ultimately getting him removed and hanged. (page 33)

It is generally believed that the US wanted ZAB to be removed from the political scene of Pakistan mainly on two counts. First, for the nuclear policy that he framed and tried to relentlessly pursue and secondly, for apprehensions that ZAB's was influencing the minds and policies of a number of Islamic and Third World countries. He posed a serious challenge to the US interests in the region. 'He had to be eliminated'.

On August 9, 1976, American Secretary of State, Dr. Henry Kissinger had a talk with ZAB, in Lahore, to dissuade him from acquiring Nuclear Reprocessing Plant from France for which the deal had already been finalized after Pakistan had agreed to all the safeguard requirements laid down by both France and the International Atomic Energy Agency. In their talks, Dr. Kissinger found ZAB inflexible and determined to go ahead with the acquisition of the Reprocessing Plant and make Pakistan a nuclear power. Incensed, he warned ZAB, "We will make a horrible example of you," adding menacingly, "When the railroad is coming, you get out of the way." But ZAB stood his ground. The US virtually mowed down ZAB. The political and economic crisis situation that started to develop during 1976-77 was fully exploited by the power broker USA. This is how they did it:-

- The Americans had successfully cultivated a number of well-placed bureaucrats, PPP stalwarts and ministers who wittingly or inadvertently served as the US agents of influence. American diplomats and CIA operators not only got most of the 'inside' information from these 'gentlemen' but also utilized their good offices to 'convey' whatever they wanted to feed or plant.

- During 1976-77 ZAB, probably working on the structured advice of these agents, continued to slip deeper and deeper into the political quagmire. They somehow convinced him that PPP must win and hold two third majority in the elections. When the agitation was moving from bad to worse, some of these men wanted weapons and chalked out plans to defeat MNA movement by force. ZAB also seriously started to consider this option.

- Some officers from USMAAG had also meaningful ingresses in the General Headquarters and not only gathered the thinking in the Services Headquarters but would also drop a 'suggestion' here and there.

- Some of the US diplomats had established direct contacts with a number of PNA leaders whom they continued to aid, support and give day-to-day line of action.

- As soon as the PNA movement gathered momentum, a large number of foreigners, particularly Americans descended on Pakistan in the garb of freelance journalists, reporters, observers, and photographers to cover the events. These men and women loaded with cameras, tape recorders and money seemed to have done their home-work well and were also being fed locally by invisible sources. They all seemed to know the names, addresses, and telephone numbers of every one who was any one in politics. It would be interesting to note that, (thanks to our days of slavery, we still have not overcome the 'white skin' phobia) most of our politicians were not only always available to these manipulators but would actually feel elated on getting a call from them and would pour out whatever they had in their minds. Every day, we in the ISI received a flood of telegrams that these journalists would send home and it was surprising to know who all they were speaking to and what information and political analysis they received.

- All that was being sent out by these so-called foreign journalists, who were actually CIA operators, was being beamed back on Pakistan as psychological warfare and propaganda aimed at building up a scenario of ZAB's fall.

- A number of diplomats were not only actively involved but also directed the operations against ZAB. Jan M. Gibney, Political Officer, US Consulate General, Lahore, duly assisted by a couple of Pakistanis, was extremely active and would frequently visit a number of politicians. It was Gibney who had telephoned and conveyed to Howard B. Schaffer, Chief of Political Affairs, US Embassy, Islamabad, that notorious sentence, "The party is over. Merchandise has gone." ZAB had retorted by saying, "Party is not yet over. Elephant has long ears......"

- We had reports from Karachi that exchange rate of US Dollar in the open market had considerably dropped. The market was flooded with US Dollar currency notes and too many people were trying to exchange US Dollars for Pak Rupees. Who unloaded all those US currency notes in the market, is a question not difficult to answer.

-PL-480 funds had also been released by the US. Over-night some JI workers were seen with pockets full of money and spending lavishly. ...

... The US not only aided but also directed most of the PNA activities. On July 4, 1977, PNA negotiators Mufti Mahmood, Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan and Professor Gafoor had agreed on a joint formula with the PPP but suddenly Air Marshal (retired) Asghar Khan, Pir of Pigaro, Begum Nasim Wali Khan, Maulana Noorani and some other of their ilk declared that they did not endorse the agreement reached between the parties. On whose behalf these leaders sabotaged the reconciliation proceedings, is any body's guess.

Martial Law. On the night of July 4/5, 1977 General Zia-ul-Haq declared Martial Law. ...

The US Issues Black Warrant. When ZAB's trial for his alleged involvement in the murder of Nawab Muhammad Ahmad Khan was being heard in the Supreme Court, Islamabad, ... a telegraphic message from Washington [was received]. When decoded, it contained directions for the local US offices to ensure that ZAB was hanged. It also laid down instructions for arranging retirement and shifting of some of the general officers. (pages 33-38 )

The top spymaster of Pakistan further elaborated on the innate nature of the puppetmasters:

“Under the pretext of securing her own strategic interests, the United States of America tries to manipulate and dabble in the affairs of other nations. ...

Essentially, the US policy configurations vis-a-vis Pakistan have been that of a “master” and not of a “friend”. Oscillating between persuasion and coercion, the US tends to employ all available means to keep Pakistan under watch, pressure and diplomatic subjugation. At times, it has used the 'carrot and stick' of aid, and at others, lashed out threats of economic strangulation or declaring Pakistan a terrorist state.

Pakistan's geostrategic position, nuclear capability, agricultural and technological potential, as well as the Islamic ideological base are matters of vital concern to US policy makers. The US will not and cannot allow Pakistan to govern her own affairs. While Pakistan was still in its infancy, the American hawks pounced upon and hijacked our national interests by building up an exaggerated threat of the former Soviet Union's expansionist designs against Pakistan and their so called 'mad' drive to the warm waters. ...

In addition to the administrative, economic and political means, the US has always employed her secret terrorist arm, the CIA, in foreign lands. The CIA is known for adopting various covert and overt means to undermine the integrity of other countries for achieving their own objectives and furthering their 'nefarious' designs. It is equipped with colossal material resources and its men are canny and ruthless in executing their assignments. Their methods in madness include:

a) Espionage and penetration in all areas of interest like defence, foreign affairs, science/technology, developmental programmes, economy, education, and politics. b) Propaganda, disinformation campaigns, subversion, terrorism, psy warfare, assassinations, blackmail, bribes, coercion and intimidation. ...

j) Install CIA agents as presidents, prime ministers, ministers, generals and senior advisors, etc.” (pages 20 – 22)

And the most telling observation by Brig Tirmazi - which may perhaps also shed immediate investigative light on who killed Benazir Bhutto until it is eventually rerun as self-evident on the history channels in 20-50 years – is this straightforward question that he had the chutzpah to ask, ex post facto:

... It would be fair to ask what we [the ISI] did to counter the US machinations? Well we did not, and could not do any thing beyond reporting to the highest authority in the country. There are reasons for our inaction:

One, neither the ISI nor the IB is designed or equipped to counter the machinations of a Super Power.

Two, an important factor is our own price. A lot has been said and written by some of our American friends about the price of a Pakistani. Dr. Andrew V. Corry, US Counsel General at Lahore, once said, “Price of a Pakistani oscillates between a free trip to the US and a bottle of whisky.” He may not be too far wrong. We did observe some highly placed Pakistanis selling their conscience, prestige, dignity and self-respect for a small price. (page 45)

And to carry the chutzpah to its logical conclusion, the erstwhile former leader of the ISI asks the exact same question - ever so blithely (after having willingly served the old 'masters') - that most plebeians in this 'wretched' nation are still asking twelve years later:

“The nation has the right to know and ask the leaders how far has the situation changed and have we developed enough muscles and guts to get rid of the old masters and their agents? That is the question.” (page 23)

So the erstwhile daughter of the East, Benazir Bhutto, was indeed quite clairvoyant in asserting that the same killers will be after her - except that she (perhaps deliberately) misidentified the culprits, in both cases – for this spy confessional-memoir was written during her own time as Prime Minister, and could not have escaped her notice or the approval of the upper echelons of ISI and her own government before publication.

And her un-clever misidentification, not surprisingly, clearly only benefits the real culprits themselves – crafted as she was by the Council on Foreign Relations. Witness this exchange on August 15, 2007, in New York, where she was introduced by CFR's President, Richard Haass, with a very revealing welcoming statement: “It is, for me, a personal pleasure to welcome back to the Council on Foreign Relations an old friend of mine and someone who is familiar to many of you in this room and knows well this organization, the former prime minister of Pakistan, Benazir Bhutto.”

It is here that Benazir Bhutto had asserted that she will tow the American line: “I seek to lead a democratic Pakistan which is free from the yoke of military dictatorship and that will cease to be a haven, the very petri dish of international terrorism” – thinking that that's what they wanted to hear. In her eagerness to come to power – or perhaps deliberately setup over the past three years to entice her to return to Pakistan – not realizing that it was to create a 'strategy of tension' in Pakistan as a pawn-move on the 'Grand Chessboard'.

It is unsurprising that the Pakistani newspapers continue to un-forensically repeat the same mantras as did the victim, Benazir Bhutto, and as is publicly the wont among the Pakistani ruling establishment. Perhaps deceit, forgetfulness, and co-optation today are deemed the better part of valor. Unless one has the unflinching courage to practice the late Charles de Gaulle's solution of “tous azimuths” ('vigilant in all directions - “360 degrees”'), that includes of friends and foes alike, this nation is at the end of its tethers. See the upcoming detailed deconstruction by Project Humanbeingsfirst (http://humanbeingsfirst.org) on who killed Benazir Bhutto and how to possibly arrest the 'Descent into Oblivion'.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Hawkwind
for the tip on this one.

Osama Always a Stooge
for George Bush Senior,
says Pakistan President

by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com
14th May 2009

Revealing comments by the current Pakistani president and husband
of assassinated Benazir Bhutto have been scrubbed from media reports
of his Meet the Press interview with David Gregory of NBC, which
was broadcast on May 10, 2009.

The media spotlight only shines on President Zardari's claim that Osama
Bin Laden is believed to be dead. Nothing very new or startling there.

But his other comments which question the genesis of the 9/11
attacks have not appeared in print media. These comments have
also not been reported by the main websites covering the so-called 9/11
Truth movement issues.

The damming comments run from 10 seconds to 40 seconds:



President Zardari's Quote:

"In fact my wife warned America about Osama Bin Laden in '89.
She rang up Senior Bush, and asked of him.... 'are you destabilizing
my government?'. Because he'd[Osama] paid the then opposition $10
million to overthrow.... the first woman elected [Prime Minister] in an
Islamic country. So, we knew that he was your operator".

President Zardari is clearly insinuating that Osama Bin Laden was close
to or involved with the campaign to end Bhutto's 1988 reign as Prime
Minister of Pakistan. And that he was acting under orders of the newly-
elected president George HW Bush in 1989. Bhutto lost power in 1990
amid charges of corruption. In the the October 1990 elections she was
replaced by Nawaz Sharif, widely regarded as backed by the CIA/ISI.

Bhutto had personally met Bush Senior during his two-year tenure as
U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. Their relationship is reported as
acrimonious at that time.

We do need to do more research on the allegation that Bin Laden was
part of the CIA's operation to overthrow Bhutto. If confirmed by basic
historical research, then Zardari's assertion that Osama was playing to
the CIA's political agenda in Pakistan casts grave doubts on Osama
being the prime independent instigator of the 9/11 attacks.

Note that the following Raw Story report on Zadari's interview
has been republished by Alex Jones. There is no mention of Zadari's
damming conclusion that Osama was a stooge for Bush Senior

Pakistani president: Osama bin Laden is dead

David Edwards and Jeremy Gantz
Raw Story - Monday, May 11, 2009

Two weeks ago, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zadari suggested that Osama bin Laden might be dead, saying that U.S. and Pakistani intelligence agencies had been unable to detect any sign of the world’s most wanted man since an audio recording of his voice was released in March.

Sunday morning, Zadari went further: “I don’t think he’s alive,” the president told NBC’s David Gregory. “I have a strong feeling and reason to believe that.” Zadari continued: “I have asked my counterparts in the American intelligence services and they haven’t heard [from] him in seven years.”

The CIA has not confirmed that the voice purporting to be bin Laden in the March recording was in fact bin Laden. U.S. officials have claimed that bin Laden could be hiding in the mountainous region along the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Just before saying that he believes bin Laden is dead, Zadari told Gregory that America has “been looking [in Afghanistan] for eight years… You lost him in Torah Borah, I didn’t.”

But Pakistan is still part of the worldwide “lookout brigade” for the alleged terrorism mastermind, Zadari said.


by Mary Anne Weaver - October 4, 1993

Extract: "During these marathon negotiations, Benazir met George Bush,
who was then the United States Ambassador to the United Nations and
spent many acrimonious hours in the Pierre suite.

“Ah, you’re at Radcliffe,” he said when they were introduced. “My son is
up at Harvard, too. Call me if you ever need anything.” And he handed
her his card. Eighteen years later, they met again, this time at the White
House, and she requested sixty F-16s."

Extract: "General Hamid Gul, a key Zia lieutenant and a committed
Islamist, who had assumed formidable authority during the Afghan war,
as the dispenser of C.I.A. arms; he and his predecessor had also
politicized the I.S.I. as it had never been politicized before. More recently,
he had used the I.S.I.’s considerable power and funds to cobble together
a rightist and religious electoral alliance to oppose the P.P.P.; he and the
I.S.I. had also created Benazir’s chief rival, Nawaz Sharif, a leader of the
Muslim League. A pale and plump industrialist in his forties, who was from
Lahore, Sharif had been plucked from obscurity by Zia to become one of
his key protégés."



Minds are like parachutes.
They only function when open.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the US continues to destablize Pakistan.
Maybe this has something to do with why? -


Balochistan is the ultimate prize

It's a classic case of calm before the storm. The AfPak chapter of Obama's brand new OCO ("Overseas Contingency Operations"), formerly GWOT ("global war on terror") does not imply only a surge in the Pashtun Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA). A surge in Balochistan as well may be virtually inevitable.

Balochistan is totally under the radar of Western corporate media. But not the Pentagon's. An immense desert comprising almost 48% of Pakistan's area, rich in uranium and copper, potentially very rich in oil, and producing more than one-third of Pakistan's natural gas, it accounts for less than 4% of Pakistan's 173 million citizens. Balochs are the majority, followed by Pashtuns. Quetta, the provincial capital, is considered Taliban Central by the Pentagon, which for all its high-tech wizardry mysteriously has not been able to locate Quetta resident "The Shadow", historic Taliban emir Mullah Omar himself.

Strategically, Balochistan is mouth-watering: east of Iran, south of Afghanistan, and boasting three Arabian sea ports, including Gwadar, practically at the mouth of the Strait of Hormuz.

Gwadar - a port built by China - is the absolute key. It is the essential node in the crucial, ongoing, and still virtual Pipelineistan war between IPI and TAPI. IPI is the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline, also known as the "peace pipeline", which is planned to cross from Iranian to Pakistani Balochistan - an anathema to Washington. TAPI is the perennially troubled, US-backed Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India pipeline, which is planned to cross western Afghanistan via Herat and branch out to Kandahar and Gwadar.


To top it all, there's the New Great Game in Eurasia fact that Pakistan is a key pivot to both NATO and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), of which Pakistan is an observer. So whoever "wins" Balochistan incorporates Pakistan as a key transit corridor to either Iranian gas from the monster South Pars field or a great deal of the Caspian wealth of "gas republic" Turkmenistan.

The cavalry to the rescue
Now imagine thousands of mobile US troops - backed by supreme air power and hardcore artillery - pouring into this desert across the immense, 800-kilometer-long, empty southern Afghanistan-Balochistan border. These are Obama's surge troops who will be in theory destroying opium crops in Helmand province in Afghanistan. They will also try to establish a meaningful presence in the ultra-remote, southwest Afghanistan, Baloch-majority province of Nimruz. It would take nothing for them to hit Pakistani Balochistan in hot pursuit of Taliban bands. And this would certainly be a prelude for a de facto US invasion of Balochistan.


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very attractive news in a couple of ways. If this is true, as you said Fintan, it shines a VERY significant light on 9/11 that simply would not be ignored. However this also would show even further that Sr. was definitely still into his CIA Game as it regards Iraq/Iran then and especially today. In other words, if Sr. was dealing with Bin Laden then, who is to say he was not dealing with him on/around 9/11? For the more simple way of investigating. It also adds further corroboration to the very good research you've done concerning Sr. being the "number 1 power broker in the U.S" as far as MIC goes and his being quite frankly, an 'ancient' CIA black ops supervisor/initiator.

I might also add that it is absolutely newsworthy that these so called 9/11 "truth" sites are NOT all over this or attempting to dissect it (or cutting certain aspects of the truth out), rather than dismiss it entirely, CIA rat bastards.
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