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evelyn



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been reading/listening to BFN for a few years and this has to be one of the best audios you have done. Thanks.
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Wu Li



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Fintan I found something to NIT PICK about
When you say the RICH I know you realize that these people you speak of do not get on the Forbes 500 or any other list
We are in a world where people do not understand that there are families or groups therein who own corporate structures that create the wealth or commodities that they push upon the corporations of the world that we the peoples ingest in various ways. Whether or not we do so inherently through the products we buy or through the process of our money making vocations we deal with these people daily. We are in turn buying into the system which makes it so hard to fight against it.
They own companies that ore the metal or minerals which you (the people) utilize or ingest on a daily basis. They own the companies that poison your body (in turn your earth including the water supply) and ideals on a daily basis.
As I believe Chris Rock stated very eloquently



I am talking about wealth
Which shows where we are at today.
White people (the "Anglo-saxons") who thought they new, do not know a dam thing.
Wealth will control us if we do not get a grip.
This take over may control the people of the world if we as individual are not diligent.
We can NIT PICK about the various different issue that touch us personally but I truly believe we must start to come together as a whole and say WTF!!!
I am not one for the whole "Oneness" eastern mysticism deal although I do believe it is time for people to be selective in their beliefs and start to realize that we have been had by a bunch of slick policy men who understand the system and it's constraints.
They pull the dam strings all to well and we all hit the right notes.
I believe we may start to call out this human created system for what it is which is a sure way to make money/wealth off of the breath of humanity and nothing more.

This is the fight
It has been on going since the time of the bible and may continue but lets not get it twisted. It is the same.
Nothing has changed besides dates and venues.
They are among us and will fight for control over the Human Free Spirit.
I hope you get my point.

BTW
Fintans audio is still great
Don't worry Fintan you may still dis me if you wish.
I was searching.
Cool Laughing Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It might have served just as well, or even better, to pop up a picture
of Hu Jintao there. The dawn of a totalitarian state is the underlying idea.

Obama would still be shit-stirring in the ghetto, not playing off an autocue
with meaningless scripted oratory for the masses, if he hadn't been plucked
out of obscurity by the CFR to front up for Corporate Capital-ommunism.

Big Pharma, Big Finance, and all Monopolists are poised to break out
the chanpagne and already rubbing their hands in glee.


Pfft!

I give you an A+ for creativity Fintan.

Please. Obama as a Soviet Red is just a little too much.

"Obama would still be shit-stirring in the ghetto..."

In your audio segment you implied that Obama went into the ghetto and agitated people. People in the ghetto were already angry and agitated! Somebody comes in and helps those folk channel their anger and frustration is different from creating the anger and frustration.

Most of your audio, especially the KGB "defector" BS sounded like warmed over Birch Society puke.

Sorry man, when Obama declares that the state should own and control the means of production and enforces the singing of the 'International' in public schools I'll salute your insights. I don't expect that to happen anytime soon though.

Soviet communism and corporate capitalism are behind the NWO?! I don't think so. More unlikely partners I can't imagine.

Most of your work is absolutely brilliant Fintan. Seriously. But I think you jumped the shark with this one.
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zak247



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Communist, capitalist, fascist, pacifist,
Leftist, rightist?

Religionist, atheist, agnostic, Gnostic

Round and round we go, into this
Circle of woe

Where it stops?
No one seems to know




ELLIPSE, the REAL matrix!


Proverbs: Ignore my appearance, and take what is in my hand
My duty is only in delivering the message

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Rick Dagless:

Sorry man, when Obama declares that the state should own
and control the means of production
and enforces the singing
of the 'International' in public schools I'll salute your insights.
I don't expect that to happen anytime soon though.

Sorry to disappoint you, dude. I can't let you know when
Obama does that. 'Cos it's happened ALREADY.

What do you think the Rolling Bailout Open Cheque Bill WAS?
And the takeover of Fannie and Freddie?
(And the likely fate of such as GE or GM?)

The U.S. State now owns and/or controls these 'means of production.'

And you ain't seen nuttin' yet , baby.

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Rick Dagless:
Most of your audio, especially the KGB "defector" BS
sounded like warmed over Birch Society puke.


I am not an apologist for the policies of the Birchites.
But thinking, is best done with the brain. Not the knee.
Knees tend to jerk in a predictable reflex action.

When you say Birch Society 'puke', do you include the now deeply dead
former Congressman Larry McDonald, who was shot down by the
Russians in 1983
(around the time the KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov
in my audio was also blowing the whistle on the NWO).

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Lawrence Patton McDonald (April 1, 1935 – September 1, 1983) was a
member of the United States House of Representatives, representing the
seventh congressional district of Georgia as a Democrat.

He was a passenger onboard Korean Air Flight 007
shot down by Soviet interceptors
and presumed dead.

He was known for his staunch opposition to communism and believed
in long standing covert efforts by powerful US groups to bring about a
socialist world government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McDonald


A couple of years back I watched an interview McDonald gave just after
assuming the leadership of the John Birch Society in 1983. In the interview
he was incisive and explicit, and had total command of his subject.

The interview sealed his death warrant.

He was shot down by the Russians within four months.

Thanks to Maverick who recently posted that interview on BFN:

Quote:
Larry McDonald on the NWO May 1983 - Part 1
May 1983 Broadcast of Crossfire in which Congressman Larry McDonald
takes on Pat Buchanan and Tom Braden. They wrangle over the John
Birch Society, the CFR, the CIA and the NWO.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PAJJ5eRvQw

Larry McDonald on the NWO May 1983 - Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXyuepaSiZ8&feature=related

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http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4741



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Rick Dagless:
Soviet communism and corporate capitalism are behind the NWO?!
I don't think so. More unlikely partners I can't imagine.

Exclamation

You joined on 11 Apr 2008.
Maybe you're missing the back-story.

The New World Order is Global. By definition.
It goes with the territory of the:

US-UK-EU-USSR & The People's Asian Republic of Communo-Capitalist Slave Wagery.

Communo-Capitalism is the emerging NWO Reality.

Communism and Capitalism are ideaological badges of convenience.

Call it Totalitarian State Economics, if you prefer.

This was the 28th post made on this forum.
I posted it on 23 Jan 2006:

Here's an edited version.

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A recent article is now getting some traffic on the CIA Fakes websites:

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=201
http://www.voltairenet.org/article133909.html
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m19852&l=i&size=1&hd=0
http://rense.com/general69/ism.htm

In it, the former Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Leonid
Ivashov recounts how 9/11 is part of an an evil plot to to install a
unipolar world government and quench freedom around the world.

Hurrah! Another fearless defender of freedom rushing to our aid.
It all sounds great. Unless you get to wondering exactly how come a
former top Russian General is suddenly one of the good guys.

Expecially when you recall the Beslan school massacre Psyop.....
and realize that this General must be on cheek-kissing terms with
Vladimir Putin --who has used exactly the same kind of Fake Terrorism
to further his own domestic and regional agenda. It don't add up.

And then you read on through Ishakov's breathtaking revelations about
9/11 et. al. and get to the part where he advises us how best to defeat
this kind of covert State Terror:

Quote:
In order to fight in an efficient way against international terrorism it is necessary to take the following steps:

--To associate (under the United Nations) the scientific elites in the design and promotion of the philosophical concepts of the Human Being of the 21st Century.

--To organize the interaction of all religious denominations in the world,
on behalf of the stability of humanity's development, security and
mutual support.


http://freethoughtmanifesto.blogspot.com/2006/11/international-terrorism-does-not-exist.html


Ahhhh! So only the U.N. can save us eh?

With the religious leaders such as the dubious Reverend Moon and the
rather murky German Pope Ratzinger urging us all to willingly embrace
the global hegemony of the U.N. prototypical World Government.

Beautiful. Eh? Say no to a "unipolar" global dictatorship by rushing
willingly into the arms of a "multipolar" global dictatorship.

The good general's solution to the assault on free peoples everywhere....
is to enslave them under the auspices of a United Nations controlled
behind the scenes by exactly the same forces staging the War On Terror
gambit.

I repeat, controlled behind the scenes by exactly the same forces.

You are witnessing a 'GoodCop - Bad Cop' routine of global proportions.
A vast geopolitical maneuver of devious intent and execution.

And who is lined up with General Ivashov in this subtle manipulation?
Let's take a look at his fellow speakers and panelists at the Axis for
Peace Conference in November, 2005.
( http://www.axisforpeace.net/rubrique27.html )

It's a Who's Who of CIA Fakes --many of whom have appeared on the
Alex Jones Show:

-- Andreas von Bülow, a member of the German Parliamentary secret services control committee, who in 2002 blamed 9/11 on US secret services.

-- Phil Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and lawyer for the families of victims of 9/11 attacks.

-- Thierry Meyssan, national secretary of the French center-left political party PRG, and president of Voltaire Network.

-- Craig Murray, the dismissed UK embassador to Uzbekistan.

-- Webster Tarpley, author of the un-authorized Bush biography.

-- David Shayler, former UK counterespionage agent 'hounded' by British authorities for having breached the Official Secrets Act.

-- Christopher Bollyn of American Free Press.


Ivashov with Webster Tarpley at the Axis for Peace Conference,
Brussels in Nov 2005.


Ivashov with Christopher Bollyn at the Axis for Peace Conference,
Brussels in Nov 2005.

That last photo says it all. Fearless independent reporter(allegedly)
posing with the former head of the Russian Armed forces eh?
Do they make a pretty pair?

No. They make a pretty unlikely pair. The day a former head of
the Russian Armed Forces is on the side of freedom is the day I'll bet you
can see flying pigs soaring overhead in flocks.

You would have to be simple-minded in the extreme not to figure this
out now --with the arrival of the heavyweight General Ivashov on
the scene. And when you look at the company he is keeping, he sort of
completes the ghastly picture doesn't he?

When I used the term 'CIA Fakes' for this bunch I was using a shorthand
for a less cumbersome description. The full crew includes the CIA,
NSA, MI5 MI6, French and German intelligence and the KGB
.

Along with their "outreach" mechanisms entrenched in the US Republican
and Democratic parties activist base and the alternative media.

But maybe I shoud now start using the term CIA/KGB Fakes. It fits.

And the family includes the Bush Boys, the Blair/QE2/Royal Dutch axis,
the EU/NATO Crew, Vladimir Putin and assorted hangers on.


But maybe you figure that possibly the Global U.N. Government would
be an acceptable alternative to the unrestrained slaughter being
unleashed by the Fascist right-wing Republican Bush and his allies.


Really? Do you think there is any likelyhood of a benevolent outcome by
going along with the plans of a group of ruthless bastards who have been
prepared to repeatedly use mass murder to achieve their goals?

In truth, this is the same Fascism wearing two hats, or rather,
with two velvet gloves over two iron fists
. Don't delude yourself.

Recall the people leaping out of the World Trade Center Towers
and get a handle on what you are dealing with.

Remember the chemically-burned corpses of children lying in the
streets of Fallujah and get a handle on what you are dealing with.

If you think that this is going to be for the benefit of the mass of
humanity, then I advise you to look up in the sky overhead right now.

You may be able to spot another flock of pigs.

Fintan Dunne, Editor http://BreakForNews.com 23rd January, 2006

Our BreakForNews Audio Discussing Ivashov:
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/InsideTrackNews060124a.mp3

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28#28

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Now I will come back to you guys little level of awareness, on the material plane!

I agree Obama will be a warmed over Bill Clinton, which is better than a repeat of George W Bush which McCain and the whore of Babylon, Sarah [Pale Horse] Palin would be, and even worse.


The NWO is an established fact, and is indeed global, but you guys don’t have a clue HU is really behind it.

I must say with all due respect, I don’t think Brother Fintan does either.

I tried to tell who is really behind ALL this stuff once on this forum, but realized

We are not ready for it, Yet
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Fintan knows
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the derivative bubble bursts and the dollar looses at least half of its value and a quarter or more Americans loose their homes, it is reassuring that we will have an African American as a president that can calm the racial inequities of class warfare. We know how powerful a united race of people can be against a ruthless albeit pathetic class of elites.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Zak - I know this is pure Matrix level stuff. It sucks compared to
the higher level, but I'm happy to hack it on the material plane too.
That's where most people have to eat after all.

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I must say with all due respect, I don’t think Brother Fintan does either.

I dunno dude. I don't have papal infallability.

Debate me if I'm wrong.
But I think I figured this out 5 days after 9/11.

Here's the ancient server log to confirm:

Quote:
16/Sep/01 12:29: /images/afterwards_china_syndrome.jpg

http://www.eionews.addr.com/wwwstat/09.19.html


Below is the image ref'ed above, which I posted on the homepage of the
PsyOpNews website on 16th September, 2001. That's the site where
we published our first two 9/11 articles in the weeks just afterwards:

Quote:


China's flag atop the Statue of Liberty, just about summed it up , I felt.

I think the call was good. Here we are in the aftermath of China's Olympics,
as the financial 9/11 now hits the USA. All covered in recent audios.

We actually pulled that image from display after a few days. Figuring that
the message had been made clear to the more savvy visitors by then, and
in those days of surging emotions, didn't want to inflame sentiments.

The NWO finds the China model so attractive because of the full-on
social control and monopoly capital financials it offers, they think.

Screw that.
Think again.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're going to try and implement the NWO with whatever candidate they put forward for us to choose. It doesn't matter which one gets in, they'll do as their masters tell them, or they'll be killed. Only a mass action by the people--not necessarily violent, and I pray not--will change things. Rumor has it that Obama has already asked dual Israeli citizen and Mossad agent Rahm Emmanuel to be his chief of staff. Does that still portend a Marxist takeover of our government?

BTW, how did we get from New World Order Imploding to The Marxists Are Taking Over? Is the NWO imploding or not?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how did we get from New World Order Imploding
to The Marxists Are Taking Over?
Is the NWO imploding or not?

Well, they are trying real hard.

I didn't say they are taking over.

I called it "The Red Coup Gambit."

A gambit is a pitch. Whether the pitch works is another question.

For instance, the EU Superstate should be a done deal by their gameplan.
But voters in France and Denmark, then lately in Ireland have screwed that.
And they never managed a popular vote in favor. EVER.

Yet still they press on.
What else can they do?

The Implosion is the ongoing implosion of their monetary base.

Power is Money. And vice versa, Money is Power.
This Monetary Bubble gave them the capital to get this far.

As their Bubble Money edifice implodes, so does their Power leverage.

Their bet is that they can morph from the Bubble stage, to now achieve
sufficient Institutional power to enable the final New World Order.

I think that even with the Bubble Wind at their backs, and all the PsyWar
advantages of 9/11 to boot, they nonetheless met significant resistance
to the NAU/NAFTA/AMERO agenda and also to the EU Superstate agenda.

Not to mention the resistance to the official 9/11 myth.

And that was when they had the 'Good Times(?)' rolling!

Whether they have enough steam left now to complete the agenda--
against the headwind of deep public dissatisfaction, and a collapsing
monetary base is another thing entirely.

The PsyWar game now, is twofold:

Spin 9/11 as a Bush/Neocon/MIC agenda and deflect blame on to the Right.

Spin Obama as the Leftist Hope of the People to reinvent their political base.

These two goals require:

The people of the USA to be dumb enough to buy the idea that
Obama The One is on their side --despite the fact that he screwed
them all by backing the Bailout (What Bailout? lol)

The people of the USA to be dumb enough to buy the idea that
Bush/Neocon/MilitaryIndCmplx pulled off 9/11 rather than the Globalists.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you think the Rolling Bailout Open Cheque Bill WAS?
And the takeover of Fannie and Freddie?
(And the likely fate of such as GE or GM?)

The U.S. State now owns and/or controls these 'means of production.'


It was a cash gift to the bankers and the financial services sector with no strings attached. The government got promises of stock warrants in return but the government has no voting power as a stock holder and has no control over how those companies are run, managed or how they spend the money. That was part of the language of the bill.

So the US government neither owns NOR controls those companies. The US government doesn't even have representatives at the boards of directors meetings. GW even got on the TV and radio to reassure us that there would be no government control over how those companies spend the money and that nobody from the government would be involved in running the companies.

Hell, AIG has blown through 90billion of the 120billion it got and goverment regulators are requesting an accounting of how the money was spent and AIG has told them to f*ck off.

So much for government ownership and control.

That isn't Communism Fintan, it's Fascism.

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When you say Birch Society 'puke', do you include the now deeply dead
former Congressman Larry McDonald, who was shot down by the
Russians in 1983 (around the time the KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov
in my audio was also blowing the whistle on the NWO).


Yep Larry was an extreme right wing nutcase and he did die when flight 007 was shot down. Problem is...the Russians didn't shoot down that plane. The US Navy did which kinda negates the idea that the Soviets shot down the plane to get rid of him.

The official story about how the Soviets shot down flight 007 is obvious nonsense.

For background on the real story behind the 007 shootdown please read the book "Incident At Sakhalin" by Michel Brun

Link:

http://www.amazon.com/Incident-Sakhalin-True-Mission-Flight/dp/1568580541

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The New World Order is Global. By definition.
It goes with the territory of the:

US-UK-EU-USSR & The People's Asian Republic of Communo-Capitalist Slave Wagery.

Communo-Capitalism is the emerging NWO Reality.

Communism and Capitalism are ideaological badges of convenience.

Call it Totalitarian State Economics, if you prefer.


"Totalitarian State Economics". That sounds accurate. It's global corporate control of the people and resources of the globe for the benefit of trans-national corporations. In other words, global fascism.

Take a close look at China Fintan. It isn't socialist anymore (nor communist for that matter). The "iron rice bowl" has been smashed, old age pensions have been canceled and public health care is thing of the past. Now it's a neo-fascist kleptocracy.

Like I said Fintan, I have much respect for you and I deeply appreciate the amazing work you do on so many important topics but on this particular topic...I think you screwed the pooch.

Second edit:

Just to be clear here I despise Barack Obama and I think he's a corrupt dirtbag who will be the "inspiring" voice and spirit behind the further oppression of ordinary people in the US and around the globe. Just didn't want anyone to think I am defending him. I'm not. I just don't think he's a commie.
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