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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, nothing personal, just business. the queen's polo ponies need new shoes Smile

they're trying to pull the same crap on US soldiers
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6727677.ece

Government to cut wounded soldiers’ awards

Steven Swinford and Michael Smith

The government will this week launch an attempt to deny soldiers crippled in battle full compensation for their injuries.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) will go to the Court of Appeal on Tuesday to try to slash the compensation awarded to two injured soldiers by up to 70%. If the government wins, it will fuel the mounting disquiet over the relatively paltry payments some soldiers are receiving for lifelong injuries.

The legal action comes as British troops are suffering their heaviest casualties since the beginning of the conflict in Afghanistan in 2001.

Yesterday a soldier from the 40th Regiment Royal Artillery became the 20th to die this month, and the 189th overall, when he was killed in an explosion in Lashkar Gah in Helmand province.


It also emerged this weekend that the new commander of a platoon that had lost five men in a Taliban bomb attack earlier this month has himself been badly wounded in an explosion. Second Lieutenant James Amoore, 2nd Battalion the Rifles, stepped on an improvised explosive device last Sunday.

The 24-year-old officer had just replaced his predecessor, who had been seriously wounded in a similar explosion that killed five soldiers. Both officers are receiving critical care at the Selly Oak hospital in Birmingham.

The rising number of casualties has attracted attention to deficiencies in the Armed Forces Compensation Scheme, which was introduced in 2005. Last week Sir John Major, the former Conservative prime minister, said the nation was not meeting its “obligations” to injured servicemen.

Compensation payouts to soldiers are routinely dwarfed by those awarded in the civil courts. In one of the most high profile cases Ben Parkinson, 25, suffered 37 injuries, including brain damage and the loss of both legs. He initially received £152,000. After a campaign by his mother, this was raised to £546,000.

Lawyers believe that Parkinson would have received £3m in a civil trial.

In the landmark legal case this week Bob Ainsworth, the defence secretary, is appealing against a ruling that two soldiers should have their compensation increased.

In September 2005 Anthony Duncan, a soldier with the Light Dragoons, was on patrol in Iraq when he was shot in his left thigh. He needed 11 operations to clean and close the wound and had a pin inserted in his leg to help the bone heal.

He subsequently suffered calcification in his thigh muscle and constant pain in his leg. He struggled to walk without crutches while attempts to run left him “crippled” with pain, according to court documents.

The MoD initially gave him £9,250 in compensation, arguing that his injury was only a fracture. Duncan appealed and a tribunal awarded him a lump sum of £46,000 and a guaranteed weekly income payment for life.

Matthew McWilliams, a Royal Marine, suffered a fracture of his thigh bone during a training exercise. He was awarded £8,250, which was increased on appeal to £28,750 and a guaranteed weekly payment because of damage to his knee following surgery.

In June last year the MoD took both cases to a higher court, claiming it should have to compensate the men only for the initial injuries and not subsequent complications. The three judges ruled against the ministry, saying it was “absurd” to divorce the injury from treatment.

The MoD was so concerned by the ruling that earlier this year it suspended payouts for three months, barring the most serious injuries. If it loses at the Court of Appeal, wounded soldiers who suffered further complications after treatment will be entitled to higher payouts.

Carl Clowes, 23, from Bradford, is among those taking a keen interest in the case. In July 2007 he was in a Land Rover in Helmand when it drove over a mine. Both his legs were crushed. His left leg was amputated below the knee 10 months later and he still suffers pain in his right leg. He can walk only short distances without crutches.

Clowes was awarded £92,000 for his amputated left leg, but £8,000 for his damaged right leg. He will be medically discharged from the army this week but will only be able to do sedentary work.

He appealed against his payout and shortly afterwards was delighted to find £48,300 in his bank account, which he used to pay off his mortgage. A day later the MoD contacted him to tell him the money had been paid in error. He is now being forced to return it.

“I’m permanently disabled. The last thing I expected was for the MoD to quibble over compensation,” he said.

Colonel Tim Collins, who commanded the Royal Irish Regiment in Iraq in 2003, said: “It is not surprising (the MoD) is doing this because of its finely tuned budgets, but it is a reflection of the regard this government has for the services.”

Sue Freeth, director of welfare at the Royal British Legion, said: “People who are putting themselves in harm’s way for their country feel cheated. These injuries affect people for the rest of their lives, but for many the compensation system fails to address that.”

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

duane wrote:
hey, nothing personal, just business. the queen's polo ponies need new shoes Smile

they're trying to pull the same crap on US soldiers

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6727677.ece

Government to cut wounded soldiers’ awards


"Clowes was awarded £92,000 for his amputated left leg, but £8,000 for his damaged right leg. He will be medically discharged from the army this week but will only be able to do sedentary work.

He appealed against his payout and shortly afterwards was delighted to find £48,300 in his bank account, which he used to pay off his mortgage. A day later the MoD contacted him to tell him the money had been paid in error. He is now being forced to return it.

“I’m permanently disabled. The last thing I expected was for the MoD to quibble over compensation,” he said. "

Fucking breathtaking
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


First this...........from the BBC !

Pakistani Taliban leader killed'


Pakistani TV says the man ringed with a red circle is Baitullah Mehsud
There are growing indications that Pakistan's most wanted man, Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, has been killed by a US missile.
A Mehsud aide reportedly confirmed that he had died when a drone attacked the house where he was staying.
Pakistan's foreign minister said he was "pretty certain" he was dead, adding that he would be hard to replace.
Taliban leaders have gathered in South Waziristan to choose a successor, local sources have told the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8188859.stm
In other words because they show you a picture with a circle around him
you're supposed to think the report is both objective and accurate...

Problem is these drones are killing people innocent people regularly but there is a news black out on events


Thursday 6th August
then read this ..........

'Baitullah Mehsud is alive' - US intelligence official

By BILL ROGGIOAugust 6, 2009

Baitullah Mehsud from a recent Taliban video.

Pakistani Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud was not killed in yesterday's airstrike in South Waziristan, US intelligence officials told The Long War Journal.

"Baitullah is alive," one official old The Long War Journal. "We're aware of the reports that he might have been killed and we are looking into it, but we don't believe he was killed."

The late night airstrike on a compound operated by Ikramuddin Mehsud, Baitullah's father-in-law, in the village of Zanghra in the mountains near Baitullah's home town of Makeen, killed Baitullah's second wife and two other Taliban fighters. One of Baitullah's two brothers was also reported to have been killed.

Witnesses on the scene immediately said that Baitullah was not among those killed. He reportedly visited his wife but left an hour prior to the attack.
Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/08/baitullah_mehsud_is.php#ixzz0NXnQ6W87

Then the real story!



Three Paras killed in Afghanistan



The soldiers were carrying out a routine patrol with Afghan forces
Three British soldiers understood to be working with special forces have been killed in southern Afghanistan.
The servicemen, from the Parachute Regiment, died north of Lashkar Gah in Helmand province on Thursday afternoon.
The three personnel were killed and a fourth was critically injured when their Jackal armoured vehicle was hit by an explosion and small-arms fire.
The soldiers' families have been told. A total of 195 British troops have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8189419.stm

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK 'may have 40-year Afghan role'

Now behold - its the somewhat desperate 40 year Bravado Psyops - Sounds like the soon to be beaten contestant in a pie eating competition pretending to be hungry as the quagmire deepens profoundly in a timescale rapidly approaching the Entire Soviet occupation.
I can hear them now sitting round some shiny conference room desk replete with massive water jugs doubt on every face - but just like the US banking crisis - what are they gonna have to tell us??
"were not for leaving" - but we gotta think of a really big number - no a 100 years is to big - most people will laugh and besides it means everyone will be dead"?? 40 years sounds just right!!

40 sounds really big but not ridiculous yeah I think 40 is good to go

Could it mean the opposite?? That their almost done - hanging by their finger nails - judging by previous BBC reports thats quite reasonable speculation.
gg 7 Aug 2009
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In an interview with The Times, Britain’s incoming military Chief of Staff General Sir David Richards has cautioned that the ongoing military operation in Afghanistan could last for 40 years. The news comes after the deadliest month the British military has experienced since the 1980’s, and as three more British troops were killed in an IED attack Friday.


General Sir David Richards
With the British government’s attempt earlier this week to sell the public on the increasingly unpopular war with an official defense ministry policy statement, officials have been remarkably candid about just how long the conflict is going to take, and last week Ambassador to the US Sir Nigel Sheinwald likewise said the war would take “decades.”

Sir David’s comments today however reveal a surprising confidence about the prospect of continuing the war that long, declaring that there was “absolutely no chance” NATO would leave the country, adding “we made this mistake once. Our opponents are banking on us doing it again, and we must prove them wrong.”
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/08/07/britain-looks-at-40-year-afghan-war/


Gen Richards said the Afghan Army and police force must be built up
The UK's commitment to Afghanistan could last for up to 40 years, the incoming head of the Army has said.
Gen Sir David Richards, who takes over on 28 August, told the Times that "nation-building" would last decades.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8191018.stm



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:50 am    Post subject: U.S. Builds a Supersized Base in Afghanistan Reply with quote

Barracks and Burger King: U.S. Builds a Supersized Base in Afghanistan
POSTED: 08/6/09

BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -- Anyone who thinks the Afghanistan troop "surge" is a temporary, one-time deal should watch the construction here of a vast new $17 million barracks building.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/06/barracks-and-burger-king-u-s-builds-a-supersized-base-in-afgh/
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GaryGo:
40 sounds really big but not ridiculous yeah I think 40 is good to go....

Yeah, that about sums up the thinking behind the figure.

What he actually said was:

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“I believe that the UK will be committed to Afghanistan in some manner — development, governance, security sector reform — for the next 30 to 40 years,” he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6788043.ece


That's bo**ox.

The timeline is more like:

7 years of US/UK/NATO full-blown military operations
7 years of NATO operations/occupation
7 years of UN peacekeeping/development

But the "40 years" headline is nice PsyOps/bargaining.

"Ok then," says UK Gov., "we'll reduce that to 25 years max."

"These military types are a bit gung-ho, you know...."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good overview on Al-Jazeera, of the fractured Afghan
political situation, featuring Prof. Scott Lucas, whom I've
interviewed here and here on Iranian political issues.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every picture tells a story

2009 sounds like it will be the worst year yet and they tell us they are gonna stay for 40 years. They say the first casualty of war is the truth - but how come this slaughter in Afghanistan doesn't feel like a war? It just feels like some sick charade being played out were everyone knows what's gonna happen before it does.

What does it feel like in the US?

Its proven though rarely mentioned that Churchill gave the order to bomb German cities/civilians with the sole intent of getting the Germans to retaliate as the British public weren't "motivated" enough.
The noise of sirens, running to air raid shelters, the noise of enemy planes,explosions, fires,terrible headlines,wild story's of casualties and destruction.- Compare that with 7/7 and the media bullshit we're fed on how intel keeps saving us from armageddon every week, suspects being arrested without evidence - the whole circus. - Even the vast majority of people who believe all the nonsense don't actually connect with what is going on.

Is it because almost everything that is announced turns out later to have been lie's.
i was on a forum a few weeks ago and made a cynical post on a thread someone had started about afghanistan. The guy who posted the thread posted back

"You wouldn't say that if the Taleban invaded Britain"

There's no answer to that.
But then again luckily they will probably invade the US first.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely an Orwelian-style "war".

Afghanistan was placed on the back-burner with the gas turned down
to generate a protracted conflict backdrop for the War on Terror, as
the NWO concentrated on Iraq.

Despite all the claims to the contrary, taking the battle to the Taliban
on their own turf is a battle unwinnable by any military force.

Now, even as Afghanistan heads towards a rigged election which will
likely result in a total collapse in political legitimacy for the NATO
puppet Karzai --the battle is being taken to NATO:

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Huge car bomb kills 7 near NATO headquarters in Kabul

Insurgents strike in Afghanistan's capital
five days before nationwide elections.


By Laura King - August 15, 2009

Reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan - Insurgents struck at the main symbol of the Western military presence in Afghanistan today, killing at least seven people and injuring nearly 100 others in a massive car bombing five days before nationwide elections.

The blast, just outside the front gate of NATO headquarters, was likely aimed at deterring Afghans from voting in Thursday's presidential and provincial assembly balloting, Afghan and Western officials said. The Interior Ministry blamed "enemies of peace and stability in Afghanistan."

The attack, which took place about 30 yards from the main entrance to the base, also appeared designed to signal that insurgents can strike at will even in the capital's most heavily guarded districts. The attacker or attackers, carrying a payload of about 600 pounds of high explosives, would have had to pass through several rings of security -- checkpoints, rolls of barbed wire, red-and-white-striped safety gates and concrete barriers -- to get that close to the Western military headquarters.

The street is one of the most tightly secured in all Kabul; the U.S. Embassy is next door, and the presidential palace is nearby.

NATO's International Security Assistance force said in a statement that several soldiers had been hurt, but did not give their nationalities or say where they were stationed at the time. However, the gate is usually guarded by a small contingent of Macedonian soldiers who are relatively exposed to the street.

Police said the explosives were packed into a dark-colored sport-utility vehicle of the type commonly driven by civilian contractors who frequent the base. That might have given rise to momentary confusion and explained why the vehicle was initially allowed to approach.

The main part of the base -- which is headquarters to Gen. Stanley McChrystal, commander of all U.S. and Western forces in Afghanistan -- lies a considerable distance from the front gate, beyond more concrete barriers and a mazelike pedestrian entrance. Aides did not immediately confirm whether the general was on base at the time.

As with many such attacks on official installations, the brunt of the explosion was taken by Afghan civilians: employees at the nearby Ministry of Transportation, who were just beginning their workweek, and shopkeepers in a row of nearby small establishments. A small group of Afghan street boys usually congregates at the gate, begging for change from foreigners coming and going on foot.

"I always felt safe here, with so much security -- checkpoints everywhere," said 25-year-old Ahmad, who works at the offices of a charity about 100 yards from the blast site and did not want his last name used. He and other workers were eating breakfast when the blast blew out the heavy plate-glass windows.

The attack was the worst in the capital since February, when insurgents staged near-simultaneous attacks on three government buildings. Those gun-and-bomb strikes left more than two dozen people dead, including passers-by and eight assailants.

Afghanistan's Defense Ministry put the toll in today's attack at seven dead and 91 wounded, and said four Afghan soldiers were among those injured.

Afghan officials for weeks have been urging people to defy Taliban threats and go to the polls on Thursday. President Hamid Karzai told supporters at a rally last week they should vote "even if a hundred bombs explode."

The Obama administration and the Western military are heavily invested in a successful vote, which they hope will enhance the legitimacy of the central government and bolster efforts to increase Afghanistan's self-sufficiency in security matters, allowing for an eventual exit of foreign forces. President Obama has called the balloting the most important event of the year in Afghanistan.

Violence has increased markedly around the country in recent weeks, but most of it has been concentrated in the south, the traditional Taliban heartland and the center of the lucrative drug trade. U.S. Marines and British forces have spent much of the summer fighting bloody battles in Helmand, taking the highest casualties of the nearly 8-year-old conflict.

Military officials have expressed hopes that confronting the Taliban in Helmand would encourage Afghans to come out and vote, but the sometimes-intense fighting has instead prompted many people to flee their homes. Insurgents in some areas have threatened to cut off the fingers of those whose digits are stained with the indelible ink that proves a person has voted.

Today's blast could be heard across much of the capital. It scorched walls, downed tree limbs, gutted several parked cars, shattered windows hundreds of yards away and sent a plume of smoke billowing into the air.

Frightened civilians, some bleeding from their wounds, fled on foot. Passers-by stopped cars and even motorcycles to ferry wounded people to hospitals.

International forces swiftly set up a cordon of armored vehicles manned by British, French and other troops, and Afghan police waved traffic away.

A Taliban spokesman made a call to the Associated Press claiming responsibility for the attack, but initially said -- mistakenly -- that the bomber was on foot. Suspicion also fell on the Haqqani network, a Pakistan-based insurgent group which is believed to have carried out some of the most sophisticated and lethal attacks in and around the capital.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-kabul-bomb15-2009aug15,0,1629327.story

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Death takes UK Afghan toll to 200

British troops are trying to shore up security ahead of this month's elections
A British soldier has died from wounds suffered in Afghanistan, taking the number of UK troops killed since operations began in 2001 to 200.
The soldier, from the 2nd Battalion the Royal Welsh, died in hospital in Birmingham. Family have been informed.
He was injured in an explosion while on patrol in Helmand on Thursday.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown described the death as "deeply tragic news", but renewed his commitment to the "vital" mission to make Afghanistan stable.
"Today is a day of mourning, and also a day of reflection. I want to thank the entire armed forces and the families and communities which sustain them," he said.
"We owe it to you all never to forget those who have died. But my commitment is clear: we must and will make Britain safer by making Afghanistan more stable.
"We will honour and support those who have been killed or wounded in the field of battle. And we will give those who fight on all the support that they need to succeed in this vital mission
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8203711.stm
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