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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a lighter note....

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Labour MP Flynn warns of Vietnam-style disaster in Afghanistan
Sep 4 2009 by David Williamson, Western Mail

MILITARY patrols in Afghanistan should be abandoned and a peace strategy must be adopted before a Vietnam-style disaster erupts, a leading Labour backbencher will demand today.

Paul Flynn has written to Prime Minister Gordon Brown urging a change in tactics which will not put solders in immediate danger.

At an event in Caerleon he will say: “Military operations should be confined to our defended compounds. Patrols on foot and in vehicles should cease. They serve no useful purpose and provide targets for the Taliban IEDs [improvised explosive devices].”

His comments come as a major poll reveals seven out of 10 voters think the Government is doing a “very bad” or “fairly bad” job supporting the UK’s 9,000 soldiers in Afghanistan.

Mr Flynn believes the loss of life can no longer be justified – 212 UK service personnel have been killed in the country since 2001.

He told the Western Mail a long-term solution to the violence cannot be imposed on the country, and will have to involve the competing elements in Afghanistan, saying: “The only way this is going to be finished is with an Afghan solution – not a British solution.”

Labour aide quits over Afghanistan
By James Blitz, Defence and Diplomatic Editor, and Jean Eaglesham
Published: September 3 2009 20:55 | Last updated: September 3 2009 20:55
A ministerial aide last night resigned in protest at the government’s strategy in Afghanistan, torpedoing an attempt on Friday by Gordon Brown to regain the political initiative with a major speech on the war.

Eric Joyce on Thursday night quit as parliamentary private secretary to Bob Ainsworth, the defence secretary. The Labour MP, normally a party loyalist, said the UK could no longer justify the growing casualty toll in Afghanistan by saying the war would prevent terrorism back home. Mr Joyce, a former army major who has previously criticised compensation payments to injured soldiers, also warned the government was failing to empathise with the military.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our Embassy in Afghanistan Is Guarded by Sexually Confused Frat Boys

By John Cook, 4:18 PM on Tue Sep 1 2009, 214,576 views
Wonder what it's like to guard State Department facilities in Kabul? In photos first published by Gawker, security contractors get their kicks peeing on one another, simulating anal sex, doing "butt shots," and "eating potato chips out of ass cracks."

These photos were provided to us by the Project on Government Oversight, which has just written a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton detailing its investigation into the "Lord of the Flies environment" that has overtaken the private contractors who guard State Department employees in Kabul, Afghanistan. According to POGO, employees of ArmorGroup North America—a unit of contracting giant Wackenhut—get their jollies off by "deviant hazing [that] has created a climate of fear and coercion, with those who declined to participate often ridiculed, humiliated, demoted, or even fired."

What sort of hazing? The traditional desperately homoerotic frat boy kind, mostly involving eating and drinking things off of other men's butts. Also some nipple-biting, as you can see below. One POGO whistle blower described it thusly [PDF link]: "They have a group of sexual predators, deviants running rampant over there. No, they are not jamming guys in the ass per say [sic], but they are showing poor judgenment [sic]." Most of it appears to have been voluntary, but those who didn't really want to drink vodka shots out of the clenched butt-cheeks of their male co-workers were penalized and reported barricading themselves in their rooms. And sometimes the behavior extended to the locals:

US Embassy in Kabul sex Photos-State Dept responds

How Gawker Launched a State Department Investigation

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st let me preface
by saying :
has the BFN.Com :
Afganistani- Cyber- Desk ;

When it comes to :
knowing What's-Happenin''
In AFganistan :
consult GaryGo...

I'll say :
Kathy Griggs
Validates What's
goin on @ Kabul Embassy-Afganistan :

SO ,
Kathy Griggs STRIKEs-Back ;
And Agrees :

This BS
has been happening For Awhile :

This iS NO
Army-soldiers ,
Marines ,
OR Navy-Folks...

Rotten-Apples At The TOP ;


So ,
Here's Kay Griggs :

The Perverts in Government and the Military Part 1

For MOre of Kay Griggs Story :

There are 3 things extremely hard :
steel , a diamond , and to know one's self.

Ben Franklin 1750
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taliban attacks in north Afghanistan spike

By Jason Motlagh (Contact)

KUNDUZ, Afghanistan | Eight years ago, this northern flood plain was the scene of the Taliban's last stand.

Now, it's the locus of a resurgent militancy in a region that is fast becoming a new front in the Afghan war - with troubling consequences for coalition supply lines and U.S. allies whose will to stay and fight is being tested by rising casualties.

Over the past 18 months, the strength and frequency of Taliban attacks on Afghan and international forces in the north has spiked sharply, to the alarm of those who have long taken security in the northern provinces for granted.

On Saturday, a bomb hit a German military convoy in Kunduz, wounding four troops, the Associated Press reported. On Friday, a coalition air strike targeted a group of militants who had stolen two fuel tankers, killing at least 70 people, including an undetermined number of civilians.

Gen. Stanley McChrystal, head of U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, inspected the site of the strike on Saturday and also visited a hospital, where he stopped to talk to a severely burned boy.

"From what I have seen today and going to the hospital, it's clear to me that there were some civilians that were harmed at the site," Gen. McChrystal told reporters in Kunduz, according to the AP.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Up to 90 Afghan People I mean Insurgents killed as NATO hits Afghan fuel trucks


Sole Informant Guided Decision On Afghan Strike



Afghan air strike galvanises war protesters

SUPPORTERS of the US President, Barack Obama, are preparing to launch street protests against any plan to escalate the Afghan war.

At the same time, Democrats in Congress are in revolt against Mr Obama's war strategy, which is expected to result in a further 20,000 combat troops being sent to the country.

Unease has been heightened by Friday's NATO bombing of two fuel tankers hijacked by the Taliban, which killed about 125 people. Local officials and relatives say many villagers were among the casualties. NATO has launched an investigation into the strike.

The Washington Post reported yesterday that a German commander ordered the air strike based on intelligence from only one source, in possible violation of NATO rules.

The Post said a NATO fact-finding team estimated about 125 people were killed in the bombing near the city of Kunduz, at least two dozen of whom - but perhaps many more - were not insurgents.

The German officer, whose named was not disclosed, first received grainy live video transmitted from a US F-15E fighter jet showing numerous black dots around a fuel truck hijacked by the Taliban. Each dot was a thermal image of a human but without enough detail to confirm whether they were carrying weapons, the paper said.

At the same time, an Afghan informant was on the phone with an intelligence officer at the centre, insisting that everybody at the site was an insurgent. The commander ordered a 225-kilogram, satellite-guided bomb to be dropped on each truck. The ensuing fireball incinerated many of those standing nearby.

The Post said the decision based largely on a single human intelligence source appeared to violate the spirit of a tactical directive aimed at reducing civilian casualties that was recently issued by the commander of the NATO mission in Afghanistan, US General Stanley McChrystal.

General McChrystal visited the scene of the air strike on Saturday, a highly unusual gesture apparently meant to signal how seriously the alliance takes civilian casualties, which have been one of the most contentious issues in the war.

General McChrystal, who assumed his command nearly three months ago, walked along the riverbank where the air strike occurred, then visited a hospital where some of the injured are being treated.

He acknowledged that civilians were caught in the attack but did not say if any were killed.

A visit by such a senior Western official is a rarity in the aftermath of an air strike in which Afghan officials claim that civilians were hurt or killed. The increasingly vocal opposition from the left in the US to the war is alarming the White House, which does not want Mr Obama to become dependent on Republicans to win congressional support for his strategy.

The White House was shocked in July when a majority of Democrats in the House of Representatives ignored its advice and supported a motion by a Massachusetts Democrat, Jim McGovern, demanding an ''exit strategy'' from the war.

''It's just like the Vietnam War,'' Mr McGovern said. ''We are moving forward with the war because everything suggests we have no other choice. Kicking the can down the road is not a strategy for success, but for disaster, for a President whom I admire.''

Peace Action, which has 100,000 members, is gearing up for protests even though many members are in broad sympathy with Mr Obama's presidency.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U.S. Hypocrisy Astonishes the World
8, 2009

by Paul Craig Roberts
Americans have lost their ability for introspection, thereby revealing their astounding hypocrisy to the world.
US War Secretary Robert Gates has condemned the Associated Press and a reporter, Julie Jacobson, embedded with US troops in Afghanistan, for taking and releasing a photo of a US Marine who was wounded in action and died from his injury.
The photographer was on patrol with the Marines when they came under fire. She found the courage and presence of mind to do her job. Her reward is to be condemned by the warmonger Gates as “insensitive.” Gates says her employer, the Associated Press, lacks “judgment and common decency.”

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Afghanistan: Now the political fighting breaks out

By Andrew Grice, Political Editor
Thursday, 10 September 2009

The Prime Minister's strategy on Afghanistan is under mounting pressure from all three of the main parties as the political consensus on the war begins to crack.

The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are preparing to call for the Afghan election to be re-run amid growing evidence of vote-rigging and intimidation. Their move puts Gordon Brown in a difficult position, because Hamid Karzai, the Afghan President, is utterly opposed to holding another election.

And Mr Brown is trying to prevent Labour activists staging a debate at this month's conference demanding that British troops be withdrawn from Afghanistan. Tensions over the war could dent Mr Brown's plans for a show of Labour unity at the last annual gathering before the general election.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Afghanistan: War without honor

By Bernie Quigley - 09/16/09 08:15 AM ET
When South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham (Eyes roll asked Adm. Michael Mullen yesterday to assure the 55 percent of Americans who no longer think we know what we are doing in Afghanistan that the new troops he wants will do the job — will win the war — he nodded yes. As expected.

What I would like to have heard next was this: Do you assure us, then, that as a man of honor, you will resign your commission and leave the republic in disgrace if you fail?

But this is fantasy football. The problem with broad-based governance and its vast, globalist appeal is that it is not based in real people and places but is a democracy of feelings and abstractions. It is like economy detached from gold — it has no talisman to indicate and sustain truth. In this realm of the televised everyday, with its primal pounding of the radio everywhere, getting stoned is the modest substitute for enlightenment and disgrace and failure — whether it is an American president’s dithering while 1 million fall to the knife in Rwanda or a trophy grabbed on award night from Taylor Swift — can be easily accommodated by a simply apology on Leno. With Eisenhower, Sherman and Lee it was different, and we may never find this character again in ourselves. And one day we may need it.

Commentator Haviland Smith, a former CIA station chief who writes a column for the Barre Times and the Rutland Herald in Vermont, has a more likely appraisal than the Graham/Mullen sweet talk. The president’s strategy may be based on rhetoric, he says:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

comments on Allen West: Define the enemy video

the enemy in both iraq and afghanistan is a "islamic totalitarian enemy" of global terrorists that has been around since 612 AD!!!

it is currently represented by the taleban

nowhere in his talk was bin laden or alCIAda

how strangely do causes morph

he also talks about being "enemy oriented" rather than "terrain oriented" so as not to become an army of occupation.
But for some reason at the strategic level we always become occupiers.
a next level analysis by him would conclude that occupation was the real goal rather than failure of the command levels.

Birth is the first example of " thinking outside the box"
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