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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drone's Loss Delays Strike Plans for Iran

Iran now has secret US stealth technology for US warplanes as well.
Apparently, the whole drone affair represents a huge setback for Anglo-Israeli-Washington plans to ignite a regional Middle East war. At least somebody is doing something to prevent setting world on thermo-nuclear fire

Gullible Western public just keeps barking at the wrong trees, fascinated by whatever non-news are being thrown their way
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nuclear knowhow, S300 are Iran's price for Russian, Chinese access to US drone



"This super-weapon is effective against stealth warplanes and cruise missiles and therefore capable of seriously impairing any large-scale US or Israeli air or missile attacks on Iran's nuclear sites."

"Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu sent Russian-speaking Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman to Moscow on Dec. 7 to try and dissuade Prime Minister Vladimir Putin from letting Iran have the S-300 batteries as payment for access to the captured US drone.

Sources in Washington report that before sending Lieberman to Moscow, Netanyahu first checked with the White House at the highest levels.

Although he had his hands full with stormy demonstrations in Moscow protesting alleged election fraud, Putin received Lieberman at the Kremlin. But the interview was short. The Russian prime minister refused to discuss the episode with his Israeli guest or even confirm that Moscow was engaged in any deal with Tehran.
In answer to reporters' questions, Lieberman commented: "Russia's positions on the Middle East were not helpful."
American efforts to reach President Dmitry Medvedev and Putin on the drone deal through other channels were likewise rebuffed."

http://www.debka.com/article/21560/
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tech in the drone won't be all that - it doesn't need to be. Just some 'good enough' optics, some avionics that wouldn't be unfamiliar to 'prosumer' RC enthusiasts and some basic SoC crypto stuff.

And Russia wants *that* so badly that they're willing to supply Iran the 70's-80's era S-300 long-range S2A missile system?

Top drawer, black tech swap this most certainly is not. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"And Russia wants *that* so badly that they're willing to supply Iran the 70's-80's era S-300 long-range S2A missile system? "

S-300 represents whole family of air-defense systems:

The S-300P (79), S-300PS/S-300PM(1985), S-300PMU-1/2 (SA-20) (1992).
S-300VM (SA-X-23)(2011)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)#S-300VM_.28SA-X-23.29

I am not a weapons expert, but I would be careful summarily dismissing S-300 as an antiquated weapons system.

"The tech in the drone won't be all that - it doesn't need to be. Just some 'good enough' optics, some avionics that wouldn't be unfamiliar to 'prosumer' RC enthusiasts and some basic SoC crypto stuff. "

Again, are you so sure? If you are making such statement, would be nice to provide some references that you based your opinion on.

So, the whole fuss is just about beefed-up remote controlled toy? Or is it a sophisticated strategic weapons system?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyber war on US drones? Another spy craft crash, now in Seychelles



RT Reports: http://rt.com/usa/news/seychelles-drone-us-iran-711/

With America still scrambling to explain why and how they lost a drone aircraft over Iran last week, the Pentagon is trying to make sense of how another high-tech unmanned spy craft crashed Tuesday morning in the Seychelles.
For the second time in two weeks, American authorities lost contact with a drone aircraft, this time resulting in a fiery crash in the Seychelles in the Indian Ocean. The United States has operated an Air Force base there since 2009 to dispatch drones for use in anti-piracy missions and to patrol the skies over Somalia and elsewhere.

Having a bit of a drone problem, aint we? And we thought that killing people from above while sitting in the cozy control rooms pushing buttons on the gamestick was soooo cool...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

From RT: http://rt.com/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/



A former official from within the ranks of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is reporting that US and NATO forces have landed outside of Syria and are training militants to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, formerly a translator with the FBI, wrote over the weekend that American soldiers are among the NATO troops that have mysteriously and suddenly landed on the Jordanian and Syrian border. According to her, several sources internationally have confirmed the news, although the US media has been instructed to temporarily censor itself from reporting the news.
Additionally, Edmonds says that American and NATO forces are training Turkish troops as well, to possibly launch a strike from the north of Syria.

In this particular case Sibel Edmonds is acting against igniting new war in the Middle East and I personally appreciate her effort, no matter what her motivations may be.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, formerly a translator with the FBI, wrote over
the weekend that American soldiers are among the NATO troops that have
mysteriously and suddenly landed on the Jordanian and Syrian border.


See Also:

Quote:
Here's we go again. George Washington and Zerohedge again.

And this time they are running promo for Sibel Edmonds!

Who features prominently on the CIA Fakes page.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=74366#74366


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leon:
Sibel Edmonds is acting against igniting new war in the Middle East....

Really?
I reckon this Edmonds gambit is designed to inflame events!

It's been spread widely by the CIA Fakes 7 now by RT. Many people think
that Edmonds is on the up and up. They'll buy it. It normalizes the prospect
of war. It ratchets up tensions in the region.

Think about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, formerly a translator with the FBI, wrote over
the weekend that American soldiers are among the NATO troops that have
mysteriously and suddenly landed on the Jordanian and Syrian border.


See Also:

Quote:
Here's we go again. George Washington and Zerohedge again.

And this time they are running promo for Sibel Edmonds!

Who features prominently on the CIA Fakes page.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=74366#74366


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leon:
Sibel Edmonds is acting against igniting new war in the Middle East....

Really?
I reckon this Edmonds gambit is designed to inflame events!

It's been spread widely by the CIA Fakes & now by RT. Many people think
that Edmonds is on the up and up. They'll buy it. It normalizes the prospect
of war. It ratchets up tensions in the region on what may be false claims.

Think about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"I reckon this Edmonds gambit is designed to inflame events! ... It ratchets up tensions in the region"


Well, I actually thought that it is reckless actions of US/British that ratchets up tensions in the region.

People not that stupid. They just saw several countries had their regime changed and several heads of state murdered or under trial.

People see US drones flying all over the place killing whoever they see fit (maybe that is some kind of wicked sport?). You think that does not ratchet the tensions?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"I actually thought that it is reckless actions of US/British that ratchets up tensions in the region."

Absolutely! That's the whole idea.

Regardless of actual intention to invade.

At minimum, it achieves a "war-dominated" news agenda on the cheap!

As the "Wag The Dog" movie shows, the aim is to get the news agenda dominated
by tales of war or imminent war
. This serves the purpose keeping public opinion skewed to the right - towards Fascism.

Iran has been used in this way to hype fear of imminent war.

But this could be Iran, Syria, Colombia...... The same M.O.

All NWO mainstream & alternative 'assets' are deployed to build the hype:

- US Naval movements are breathlessly hyped by Debka.
- Israeli press and media cheerlead for action and hint at going alone.
- Fox News interviews mil. analysts about the weapons to be used.
- Limbaugh, etc.. jump on the bandwagon.
- Seymour Hersh assures us all invasion is imminent.
- Democracy Now rails against imminent US imperialism.
- Alex Jones says Chinese troops are massing on our borders.
- Alex Jones says US is about to use nerve gasses in the invasion.
- Alex Jones says US is about to use nerve gasses in Texas.

and

Sibel Edmonds says she has it on good authority
that troops are already massing on the border....


Hey Presto! Everybody's getting war, war, war on all media channels.

It's called total information dominance
A component of full spectrum dominance.

As US Mil PsyOps will tell ya:

Quote:
Managers must have “total information dominance” to achieve
the ultimate goal of Full Spectrum Dominance.

1 Full Spectrum Dominance is defined as the ...

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA464409

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not have a magic crystal ball and world-wide intelligence reports do not end up every day on my desk. However, due to total lack of confidence in mass media, all that is left is my own intelligence.

And here is what it is telling me:
Anglo-American elite gone totally berserk due to the fact of their crumbling dollar financial empire built around City of London and Wall Street. All attacks on the Euro and other world’s currency could only extend the lifespan of US dollar maybe another 3 – 7 years.
When financial dominance will be gone, there would be nothing to replace it with. It could be replaced by honest technological dominance as seen before the turn of the 21st century, but the Empire made a conscious decision not to do it, rather to destroy the manufacturing base of the Host countries – England and US replacing it with “Financial and other Services Economy”.

So, it is inevitable with current course of development in short 10-20 years Anglo-American elite will have to pay the price for their reckless economical policy and totally lose its dominance to the East = mostly China and Russia.

The only thing that could prevent that from happening is either a large-scale war or series of internal Revolutions in the rival countries. That is the course of action all Empires were taken over the history, most dramatic example being British Empire of the 19/20 centuries with series of European Revolutions of 1848, the two Opium Wars against China, the failed attempt at American Civil War culminating into a serious of World War I and World War II (which was essentially the same war with 20 years armistice).

The most hated enemy of Anglo American Elite, its true targets are China and Russia. The current strategic frontal depth does not allow it to be conducted now; first important neighboring countries must be taken out.
For Russia, it is Iran which cannot be taken out without first taking out Syria and Hezbollah. For China, it is Pakistan.

If during such course of action they will happen to set the world on the thermo-nuclear fire I don’t think they will hesitate.

So that is why any report abound impending next military excursion by US/GB should be taken extremely seriously and not dismissed lightly due to some technicalities regarding informational dominance.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl Denninger http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=199237 reports:
Eh, Not So Good (Iran And The Drone)

Using knowledge gleaned from previous downed American drones and a technique proudly claimed by Iranian commanders in September, the Iranian specialists then reconfigured the drone's GPS coordinates to make it land in Iran at what the drone thought was its actual home base in Afghanistan.

BAD. Very, very bad.

Let's start with one point: We don't know if this is true. Let's assume for the minute that the story is true, however, and analyze it.

Jamming a radio isn't very hard. It can made difficult, but it's very tough to make a radio impossible to jam. Enough power and knowledge of the frequencies involved and you can jam it.

However, spoofing legitimate signals that are encrypted is an entirely different kettle of fish.

If this story is correct then Iran (presumably with some help -- and gee, I can only guess who might have been involved with that -- there are two nations that come to mind immediately) has equipment that can and does break the military version of GPS.

What many people may not realize (although this is out there in the public if you look) is that "GPS" isn't the same thing for military and civilian users. We the "ordinary people" get a somewhat-accurate version that runs "in the clear." An intentional uncertainty that degraded the position was shut off a number of years ago, but it's still rather "pedestrian."

The military, on the other hand, uses an entirely different encoding and theirs is encrypted. It is also quite a bit more accurate.

So what this story implies if not outright states is not that the Iranians managed to spoof the civilian signals coming to the drone -- because the drone wouldn't be using the civilian system. It would be using the military system which is encrypted and thus if the story is accurate we must assume that the Iranians have the ability to generate apparently-valid GPS signals -- meaning they have the encryption keys.

I guess you have to assume that this means that those keys are "out" and that any weapon or navigation system that relies on them is not reliable and could potentially be redirected. Oh sure, it is "secure" against an unsophisticated enemy, but certainly not against a sophisticated and worthy state actor -- exactly when we would probably like our technology to work.

This could be a bit difficult to fix too, as the hardware in question seems to be rather.... well... distant.

All-in I think we can pretty much drop the pretense of "encrypted" GPS signals if we have evidence that a foreign nation has broken the encryption used, eh?

I personally always had suspicion that current public/private key encryption algorithms are vulnerable to good science (the Number Theory and Division). You see they are based on the assumption that certain types of divisions would take too much computing resources to complete in any reasonable time. That assumption is based on the CURRENT KNOWN science, not on what may be out there.

Would be funny when US will start blasting the hell out of London thinking that they are spreading democracy over Teheran
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