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skinters



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, your just going over old ground to what has already been said in the thread.


Its you that wants to see dead bodies.

You fail to see the facts of why this wont cannot or will never happen.

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The evidence points to it being a made for TV event, but it could be real.


You need to stick to something instead of dithering.Investigate it properly until its exhausted then move on.

Evidence ?...im not saying there could not possibly be any but you dont back up anything you say with any sort of evidence.

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Bodies are not required to be seen by the public in the event of a murder.


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As far as I'm concerned (as I don't go by there or your rules) I would need to see them.


Its just the way things are.

Let me give you an example..i take it you drive a car ?..do you drive without tax or insurance etc ?.

There are certain rules and laws that everyone follows as a normal part of living...lol...seriously you sound like a child who cant get his own way.

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I don't consider any of their legislation or even the con-stitution and bill of rights as Law.


Dont tell me your a freeman on the land ?.

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THE EXECUTIVE: Obama's Real Reason He Wants Your Guns (Full Documentary)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQhdXUuFbDE


Thinking Obama is the guy running any sort of show is a big mistake.

Attention on him draws eyes away from the real criminals.
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Andrew



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thinking Obama is the guy running any sort of show is a big mistake.

Attention on him draws eyes away from the real criminals.


Yes and as EddieT and yourself said, it plays into the left right paradigm.

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You need to stick to something instead of dithering.Investigate it properly until its exhausted then move on.

Evidence ?...im not saying there could not possibly be any but you dont back up anything you say with any sort of evidence.



There isn't much to go on, that's the whole point, its like a closed shop and most every one excepts it. And you defend that. The MSM etc say it has happened like they have but have not backed it up with evidence, you have it the wrong way around. You can keep doing the 180 trick with what I say, arguing black is white and white is black, but it wont work.

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There are certain rules and laws that everyone follows as a normal part of living...lol...seriously you sound like a child who cant get his own way.


It doesn't make it right or just does it and you just said about Obama and the left right paradigm.

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Its just the way things are.


Even Obama's mantra is "change" (to the worse though; the hireling that he is).

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Dont tell me your a freeman on the land ?.


No I'm not, but some of it is ok, but don't tell me you vote left or right do you?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew wrote:

There isn't much to go on, that's the whole point, its like a closed shop and most every one excepts it. And you defend that.



There is evidence out there its just your not looking.

If you accept that a door is closed because that how it is your just going round in circles when your efforts could be put to better use.Its a total waste of time.

I'm looking at things that i can find a gap in...something concrete that i can build on.Like sending those emails and seeing how journalists operate
when it comes to a crime scene.

I'm happy with that.Not that ive proved a point but for now at least i can look at another area seeing what i can dig up.Its all part of investigating for yourself, instead of parroting what everyone else is saying.

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Even Obama's mantra is "change" (to the worse though)


I wouldn't know, i don't care for politics being apolitical.

I dont vote either never have, never will.

If you blame obama and his policies you fall straight into that false left/right trap.

Another thing, if you watched that video of yours look at the end and how the film maker pays tribute to the kids that were killed.He clearly goes with the line that they were killed.

One thing he says that i believe in and its to question everything,everyone... including ourselves
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you blame obama and his policies you fall straight into that false left/right trap.


Of course I don't, I know he doesn't set policies.

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Another thing, if you watched that video of yours look at the end and how the film maker pays tribute to the kids that were killed.He clearly goes with the line that they were killed.


Ye and he as you said goes along not explaining the left right paradigm.


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One thing he says that i believe in and its to question everything,everyone... including ourselves


I agree with that, which is why I have said what I have said.

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There is evidence out there its just your not looking.

If you accept that a door is closed because that how it is your just going round in circles when your efforts could be put to better use.Its a total waste of time.


Which is why I mentioned about a lead to a couple who may have been killed, but you not me pooh poohed the lead and without question. The 180 trick again (but the other way around) saying can't I think for myself. Well yes I can and look into it. The same as I can think for myself and see that most of the evidence (and lack of hard evidence) points to a made for TV hoax.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandy Hook - Worst actor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmtJ9Hbzou8

It really had to be

We were debating who might take him the "Goldbugs", given to the worst 'internet' disinfo shill. Goldbug himself is, naturally, ineligible.

In the meantime, CNN wins 'most corrupt news outlet'. Seems like they do every year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Lea0_iSow

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341776#ixzz2LA6UIfqn

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:37 am    Post subject: this just in Reply with quote

Here's an excerpt:

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Sandy Hook mom delivers presidential radio address
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CNN's Lesa Jansen and Kevin Liptak

(CNN) - For the first time in his White House tenure, President Barack Obama handed the weekly address to someone outside his administration.

He stepped aside so a mother who lost her son in the Newtown school massacre could press Congress to act on new measure tightening access to guns.

As youve probably noticed, Im not the president. Im just a citizen. And as a citizen, Im here at the White House today because I want to make a difference and I hope you will join me, said Francine Wheeler, whose son Ben, 6, was killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December.

Ive heard people say that the tidal wave of anguish our country felt on 12/14 has receded, Wheeler continued, referring to the day of the Newtown shooting. But not for us. To us, it feels as if it happened just yesterday. And in the four months since we lost our loved ones, thousands of other Americans have died at the end of a gun. Thousands of other families across the United States are also drowning in our grief. Please help us do something before our tragedy becomes your tragedy.

White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters on Friday that Obama asked Wheeler to tape the address, which is heard on radio and seen on the Internet.

In an email from the White House on Saturday, Obama wrote he takes the address "very seriously because it offers a chance to bring focus to an issue that needs to be part of the national dialogue."

Wheeler and other families who lost loved ones at Sandy Hook have been in Washington this week to lobby Congress for passage of gun legislation that would expand background checks and take other steps designed to curb gun violence.


Here's the link:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/13/sandy-hook-mom-delivers-presidential-radio-address/comment-page-3/#comment-4725263

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This a great tool to weed out the questionable photos for this or any other dodgy event:

http://fotoforensics.com/

fotoforensics.com offers an upload (from disk or url) of images to use their Error Level Analysis. It checks the error level of each pixel in a JPEG, which should all be uniform if the image is untampered. If something has been added in, like text or anything else, its error level will be different than the rest of the image. It was put to use in a video demonstrating how Victoria Soto's classroom photo from Sandy Hook was an elaborate photoshop job, using this technique to expose the hoax. I don't know how much this will end up helping but I consider it a useful tool.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newtown Conspiracy Theorist Sues University That Fired Him

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/us/sandy-hook-newtown-conspiracy-theorist-sues-university.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-5&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article&_r=0

A pretty objective article from the NYT. They even provided a link to Tracy's site. (What is going on over there?)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the spirit of fakes and frauds; let's look back at a great one:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/nAgMw4cbfXbL/


Very eye opening.

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