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Fintan
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've been following this topic, then you know all the affected people
were awaiting an official inquiry was due to report in weeks
about the treatment of unwed mothers in religious institutions in Ireland.

Then early in January, 2019 the Irish Government delayed the report
- for a year! And it looked like even more delays lay ahead. It was a
strategy of "Dead Babies Don't Sue". Exhume the dead Tuam Babies
remains but bury the living survivors seeking justice. I did a video:



That delay by the Irish Government
was effectively a declaration of war.

Now news has been breaking of our
response to the Irish Government:





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SURVIVORS of mother and baby homes are set to sue the State and religious orders for hundreds of millions of euros.

The Irish Sunday Mirror has learned that a top law firm has put together a team of six barristers to begin a series of High court battles.


Spokesman for Irish First Mothers Fintan Dunne said the latest delay in the work of the commission was a "kick in the teeth" and survivors would now take a legal route.

He told the Irish Sunday Mirror: " The commission is a mechanism for evading redress. They've has two extensions to the working report which was supposed to take 18 months and took three years."

"We've had four interim reports now and nothing coming out of it."

He added the commission's workload and resources meant it was unlikely to issue a final report before 2021. And he asked how no findings of culpability had been made with more than 500 witnesses already interviewed.

MASS LEGAL ACTION

Members of the First Mothers group met recently with Coleman Legal Partners, the Dublin-based firm which was involved in Army deafness claims.


The Irish Sunday Mirror understands the company is willing to lodge mass individual actions on behalf of survivors without seeking any payment up front.

Mr Dunne said: "The only thing holding everyone back is as an individual you're talking €10,000 before you even get to court. This is about as close as you can get in Ireland to a class action. Claims will include negligence, psychological abuse, false imprisonment, assault, breaches of human rights law and genealogical bewilderment -in other words not knowing who the hell you are or where you came from."





Last year Irish First Mothers accused the commission of inquiry led by Judge Yvonne Murphy of misleading survivors who wanted to give sworn testimony. Rosemary Adie, whose daughter was taken from her minutes after she gave birth aged 18, said she was one of many denied chance to speak to the judge.

Reacting to the new delay she said: "I have a letter from the commission saying we haven't come forward with enough information. I wrote to judge Murphy and asked to go in front of her. I got a letter back saying there was no need. it's more of the same. People are fed up and tired."

HIGH COURT CLAIMS

Lawyer Norman Spicer of Coleman Legal Partners said: "We are currently progressing a number of sample claims in the High Court and proceedings have been issued in these matters."


"We are also working closely with several groups in the community and many individuals to try and bring about a remedy for these people through the judicial process."

The commission was set up in 2015 at a cost of €23 million after the bodies of 796 babies were found in septic tanks behind Tuam home run by nuns. A final report was due last year, but a one year extension was sought. Despite public outcry a second one year extension was granted earlier this week.

A report is due in March on burial arrangements at "major institutions" including Sean Ross Abbey and Bessborough Mother and Baby home. The investigation of illegal adoptions at St Patrick's Guild in Dublin has also been referred to the commission, which will open new lines of inquiry.

GUIDING MEMBERS

Sandra Schroeder Pearce whose son was given up for adoption when she was 17 at the Good Shepherd home in Meath, said: "First Mother's group are actively guiding members through the legal steps to place cases before the court."

"As Ireland's largest group of women who were in institutions for unwed mothers we have lost confidence in Minister Zappone, in Judge Murphy and in the current justice process. The government has left us with no other option but to pursue justice through the courts."


Derek Leinster of Bethany home survivors group said: "Time is running out for the government to do the right thing. He told the Irish Sunday Mirror: "For the Bethany group members survival is measured in days not years. I know people who can't afford to keep themselves for what time they have left."

"JAW DROPPINNG"

Earlier this week Clare Daly TD said it was "jaw-dropping" to have three reports in the space of four years with "no details and no findings".


And Labour's Brendan Howlin said: "Will the government agree to provide redress for those affected, many of whom were elderly and deserve our compassion and resolution to ease their pain. If we do not act now, for some it will be too late. It is already too late for those survivors who have passed away in the 4 years since the inquiry began."

http;//IrishFirst Mothers.com
https://www.facebook.com/groups/avoiceforfirstmothers/

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Fintan,

All the best with the class action law suit! Hope everyone can find some justice in this world. I`ll keep an eye out to see how you guys are getting on!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The commission’s long-awaited final report was published yesterday -

https://www.thejournal.ie/mother-and-baby-homes-final-report-5322570-Jan2021/?utm_source=shortlink

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0112/1189147-mother-and-baby-homes/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/12/report-scale-abuse-ireland-mother-baby-homes

... and a State apology was given -

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Full State apology: 'The shame was not theirs; it was ours'
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0113/1189497-taoiseach-state-apology-mother-and-baby-homes/



Taoiseach Micheál Martin has addressed the Dáil on the Commission of Investigation's report into mother-and-baby homes, and has given a State apology to survivors and their families for "the profound generational wrong visited upon Irish mothers and their children who ended up in a mother-and-baby home or a county home".
...



So they're very sorry but No criminal charges for mass murder and genocide?

I wonder what Kathy would have thought?
What do you and the First Mothers say, Fintan?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the post and info JD! :-)

Been maxed last couple of days with media etc
following the publication of the Inquiry report:

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BABY HOMES REPORT IS A
SICKENING WHITEWASH


by Fintan Dunne - 12 Jan, 2021

The official inquiry into Mother and Baby Homes has absolved both the Church and State of any systemic responsibility for what it admits is the effective incarceration of pregnant mothers.

The report also fails to find that mothers were coerced into giving up their children. It merely reports that "some" mothers 'claim' they did not properly consent.

And the inquiry also seems to have made no recommendation of significant redress for affected mothers. Destroying a mothers life by forcibly removing her child is fine by the Commission. Most women gave up their baby voluntarily it insists!

To plug that embarrassing hole the government says a 'restorative recognition' scheme with still-unspecified awards will be launched in a few months. We can expect little or nothing by way of redress.

The bias of the Commission against mothers was apparent from it's first interim reports -which insisted that physical abuse and neglect was the only injury suffered by mothers. The mothers say and know that the massive abuse they suffered was the forced removal of their child.

The Commission is blind to this most grievous injury which was the reason for the inquiry in the first place. And it is blind to the coercion of mothers and the dubiously obtained consents to adopt.

The Government is also attempting to shoehorn mothers into the Collaborative Forum process it operates. This forum is mostly comprised of adopted people and academics -none of who have experience as a mother. Mothers have their own representative organization: Irish First Mothers -with whose 70 members the government will not engage.

And the Government continues to advance adoption information legislation which does not meet the legitimate demand of mothers for speedy access to unredacted information from their own medical and birth records.

Minister O'Gorman also made no reference to investigating the grounds of the many homes with infant remains. Only the Tuam site is to get special legislation -and even there a coroner's inquiry would be the quickest legal option.

There wasn't a single public hearing in the whole of the commission's work. Justice should be seen to be done publicly. But this was justice behind closed doors. No justice.

The majority of testimony was unsworn by design and most who spoke to the so-called unsworn 'confidential committee' of the inquiry were kept unaware that they had an option to give sworn testimony.

This wasn't a Commission of Inquiry to obtain the Truth.

It was a Commission to bury the truth forever.

Just like they buried the babies.


Issued by Irish First Mothers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/avoiceforfirstmothers



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BABY HOMES WHITEWASH REPORT - NIALL BOYLAN SHOW

Fintan Dunne on Niall Boylan Show, Classic Hits FM
for Irish First Mothers on 12 Jan 2020.




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ALISON O'REILLY SLAMS
MOTHER & BABY REPORT


The journalist who broke the Irish 'buried babies' scandal internationally,
Alison O'Reilly speaks to Michael Reade on LMFM about the shocking
inadequacies of the official inquiry report.


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