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just0



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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The words we use, the definitions we choose, have to be true to what we agreed upon... or we're all on different wavelengths. It's possible !

Examples;


Ideas from Bill Gaede

Mathematics has nothing to do with physics, math is only descriptive.
There's only two forces in the universe, push and pull.
Electricity is clockwise and anticlockwise''
Magnetism binds galaxies together, not blackholes or dark matter.

He's got a point insofar as we need to start with the basic scientific
definitions, Mass, Time, Matter, Energy.... these are still undefined
concepts......Bill has made some step towards a cohesive language.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great to see this discussion play out.
Mainstreamer isn't too bad.
Still watching.

Yeah. Maths is a minefield. Number illuminates.

And coherence is important - lol
especially when it comes to explaining shit:

INTRODUCTION TO MODERN PHYSICS



Gravity waves?
I stumbled as the subway car lurched.
Distantly, Alpha Centauri immediately winced.
If that was a wave it was faaaaaaaaast.
Return of the Ernst Mach.

I'm back up in the game.
Return of the Mach, once again (recursion)
Return of the Mach, top of the world (polarity)
Return of the Mach, watch my flow (instantaneous)
You know that I'll be back
Return of the Mach



Bad as their wave ideas are, when it comes to particles....
So this is pretty good at explaining the sub-artomic level.
Don't get lost in here:


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:


INTRODUCTION TO MODERN PHYSICS




LMAO, that looks like a lotta fun, and hey just sprinkle in a few random molecules crashing together and you get life and all Laughing

But it's much worse than a mechanistic view of the universe that's become mainstream, it's straight up Alice in wonderland fantasy physics... the lunatics are on the grass, and it ain't us!! Laughing Laughing



I'm a bit disappointed he did't go into multiverse theory too.
At least then we'd be in a real comic book reality Wink

Oh and he also says evolution made it so we needed to develop mathematics to understand nature so we evolved to do that.
In other words, kneel at the alter of Math.

So nature purposefully 'wanted' us to learn math to understand how nature works, even though nature itself using math is a ridiculous idea.
Paraphrasing what Fuller said way back then, nature doesn't calculate pi to make a bubble.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just0: I'm a bit disappointed he did't go into multiverse theory too.

He did. He just didn't go into it in this universe Wink

Lulz over his lie indicator nose rub at 1:50 -just before his big answer.

Free from any applicability of their theoretical fantasies they
disappear up their own self-referential assholes.
Quantative analysis rules in ever diminishing circles.
The generalist is sweeping the street outside the particle lab.

Back to Bill Gaede who says the mainstream scoffs at 'ether'
and then uses 'fields' as a back door into 'ether'. Laughing
Nailed it.

The host is well 'red-pilled' on matter.
Good call - but is the final answer: waves?

Gaedes shows there is something beyond waves.

As surely as waves shape our world;

something is shaping waves.

The answer to that something
is linked to the this:

I just figured out how to walk thru a mirror.

FuknA!
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIND-SPACE REALITY

Mind in Space and Space in Mind


This schema explains mind and matter.
Matter is merely a boundary and is ephemeral.
Inside these matter boundaries are Time vortices.



But this is not Science's half-story of how mind exists in matter.
It is your full experiential story of Matter in Mind and Mind in Matter.


Quantum Perception
The base level of reality and perception is a quantum blend of two states:
mind in space and space in mind. This is why space-time is enantiomorphic.
Reality and it's perception are stereo quantum phenomena.

Our vision analogously blends two eyeball views into one stereo vision.


Swinging from 3D illusions into the quantum Real and back again.
The cosmic quantum pendulum is the cosmic wave.

Just as the pendulum swings, so does the moon rock.
The Moon Wave crosses and recrosses Earth's equator.
Clock and anti, up and down. Moon boat sails the skies.

WATCH IT ROCK:




3D Rotate, Space-Mind Reality
The pure duality of the sphere is halved when emerging into 3D.
Inside and outside become dual, interpenetrative and vortexial.
But Space(male) is separation and Mind(female) is integration.
These male and female energies are driving our Time experience.

Left Brain - Right Brain
The corpus callosum sits astride the mirror plane, communicating across it.
The visual system distributes in an "X" shape across this plane.



Not shown above is that the picture from your eyes is upside down.
Your Quantum brain then rotates that picture 180 degrees into upright.

When your infant body arrived into this world it was upside-down.
An orientation your quantum consciousness still encompasses.



3D Experiential Reality

Right Eye: You see Sun and Moon on an Earth, in Space.

Left Eye : You are Ego and Self in a Life in Mind.



One eye showing the two visual spheres.

The Mind and Space integrate
into bewildering complexity.



Animate

by Justin Lawless







Question:
Why did Neil Armstrong become First to step on the Moon?

Answers:
Why does the Salmon swim upstream back to it's source?
Why does the sperm swim uphill to be the First to land on the Ovum?

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so that above is a core dump of the core mechanisms.

The only remaining core mechanism I haven't described in the
above post is the one which is used to cross the mirror plane.

The mechanism moves a sphere across a plane by compressing the
sphere to a point and then expanding it again on the other side.

The central sphere in a Vector Equilibrium is being compressed
and expanded by the movement of the surrounding 12 spheres.



The base triangle of a VE sits on a mirror plane. As you expand
the VE to full size, it's compliment on the other side of the mirror is
contracting and as you contract the VE, the mirror VE is expanding.




This movement across the mirror is the swing of the pendulum/wave.
Slow in 3D planetary space. Speedy at the quantum plank time level.
It's also the steady pulse of your heartbeat.
Tick. Tock. Two pendular instantaneities.
Just like the ol' grandfather clock.

Here are the twin VE's in the schema:




That's an octahedron which the VE forms when compressed.



And you could say that the mirror runs across the octahedron,
dividing into two half-octahedra - one atop the upside down other.



The Mind-side half-octahedron is made of nothing.
There's only the flat base to hint its zero presence.

Which is what the Egyptians were saying when they built half-octahedra.

They were saying:

"Your Earth sphere on which we sit and reign, is merely
the manifest other half of this our Creation Octahedron."


Or to put it another way:

"All Your Base are Belong to Us."




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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice stuff there dude, loadsa stuff to take in and as always I love the
emphasis on explaining with visuals. I'm all in with you on this stuff, after
all these years nobody nowhere is coming close to this depth of analysis.

I think the value in Gaede's work has been with precise language, if we're
talking 'science' we should have a language. So far it's either techno
sounding, science jargon, nobody knows what your talking about or it's
floatey head in the clouds chanting some bullshit. So I still think we're
far from having a common language for science, no wonder why there's
been no progress at all in physics especially. (Higgs and black holes don't count)

Quote:
Gaedes shows there is something beyond waves.

As surely as waves shape our world;

something is shaping waves.

The answer to that something
is linked to the this:

I just figured out how to walk thru a mirror.


This is the basis of it all, and it's the start of Newtons Metaphysics.
Can we imagine a process (a mechanism) that causes things
to happen in the physical world which we cannot observe?

That's a game of 'fill in the blank' we're still trying to work out Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the problem lies with us trying to see the nature of things with our minds, that is conceptually. Either through maths or some other arbitrary artifice. Rather than experience nature in an experiential way.
I like Gaede's view that everyone should be able to understand nature through common sense.
By using the scientific method to take things apart to common denominators, we have learned how to manipulate nature, but not understand nature. We take a step back in this process, as if we are distant from nature, and you cannot dissect something and have it remain alive and vital afterwards.
Goethe's Theory Of Colours, is a brilliant example of qualitative science, as opposed to the quantitative, that's only concerned with clocks and rulers.
As Goethe said;
"The human being himself, to the extent that he makes sound use of his senses, is the most exact physical apparatus that can exist"
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing a video on all this new material
'cos there's a lot unspoken in the graphics.
This was just the get the basics down.

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noplacebo:
Goethe's Theory Of Colours, is a brilliant example of qualitative science,
as opposed to the quantitative, that's only concerned with clocks and rulers.
As Goethe said; "The human being himself, to the extent that he makes
sound use of his senses, is the most exact physical apparatus that can exist"

Indeed the human body, the "most exact physical apparatus" has the answers!

Very interesting that you bring this up:

After all, understanding light is the first step to understanding all.
Goethe showed that with the human eye, light and darkness interact.

And we are focused now on what moves invisible in the darkness.
Might be some good ways of looking at things in Goethe's work.

With Gaedes contributing vital common sense Wink

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Just0:
I think the value in Gaede's work has been with precise language,
if we're talking 'science' we should have a language.


Yep. And probably a translator between the real and the fanciful.
And words loosely used can be a huge impediment to progress.
Happens in non-scientific thinking too. One word - many views.

That's especially important when trying to think your way out of a box.
If a word means different things in different places -you're lost in maze.

Much of this work is unthinking implicit notions which are wrong.

Remember when we figured that matter was real and solid.
Then we figured that matter was illusion and waves real.
Now we are on the edge where the formless is forming.
That's the only place to be. There lies discovery.

Once it was a discovery to understand that space was enantiomorphic.
That our own bodies are mirrored Tweedledum - Tweedlede binaries.

Now I'm getting comfortable with mirrored time as a binary pendulum.

Gawd, my simplistic learning of time as an arrow or dimension died hard. Laughing

Now I'm thinking time is double-stranded like DNA.
Or using the dynamics of electro-magnetism.

Trying to solve this with only mirrored space was impossible.
It's still only seeing the outside or spatial dimensionality.

So, I suppose that's another thing I let go of: time as linear and extensive.
Now I'm looking at it as vortexial inside boundaries.

But in all this I am looking only at the foundations, the building blocks.

Yes harmonies and discordance of mathematics and form are awesome.
Half the moon's diameter by the height of your ear is the orbit of Venus.
I'm kidding. But you know what I mean.

Every trivial surface-level analysis is mining these harmonies to
describe ever more elaborate torus or vector harmonic systems.

But it's all relationships. Nobody has a basic mechanism.
That's a maze. This stuff gets very, very complex very quick.

We got to get the basics figured or else it's an endless show
of neat tricks, smoke, hype and mere mental masturbation.

The basic mechanisms are the goal. No mere cold physics but
the fundamental operations of all life, existence and perception.

Now in reach.

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:08 am    Post subject: For every season, turn, turn, turn. Reply with quote

Man, as well as being "the measure of all things", is also at the epicenter of his universal vortex. Place the tetrahedra apex to apex and go for a spin ... toroidal time with the initial mirror plane maintained but now arranged into the cyclical nature of ... nature.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

noplacebo wrote:
Goethe's Theory Of Colours, is a brilliant example of qualitative science, as opposed to the quantitative, that's only concerned with clocks and rulers.


No we're talking Laughing
Back to basics, and back to reality!

Fintan wrote:
We got to get the basics figured or else it's an endless show
of neat tricks, smoke, hype and mere mental masturbation.

The basic mechanisms are the goal. No mere cold physics but
the fundamental operations of all life, existence and perception.

Now in reach.


Yes I think so, and with an emphasis on life, the key ingredient to it all,
which of course is left in the trashpile in mainstream cosmology along
with our individual perspectives. We can't have a model/theory without
life, so unpredictability, chaos, freedom, change, growth is gonna be part
of it.

Peter quoted man is the "the measure of all things", both in Matter and Mind Wink

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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Peter:
Place the tetrahedra apex to apex and go for a spin ... toroidal time

Cool. And yes we are on the verge of torus here.
Just move the two circles closer in the above graphics.
I held back to simplify core mechanisms as much as possible.

With this new layout: mind|time|time|space, I had the feeling that
the answer to the big questions were probably looking us in the face.

So I've been doing more thinking about this earlier stuff I posted:

Quote:
The only remaining core mechanism I haven't described in the
above post is the one which is used to cross the mirror plane.

The mechanism moves a sphere across a plane by compressing the
sphere to a point and then expanding it again on the other side.


The central sphere in a Vector Equilibrium is being compressed
and expanded by the movement of the surrounding 12 spheres.



So on reflection (pardon the pun), think I got it now.

It's not just that the VE is moving the sphere thru the plane.

The VE itself can travel across the Mirror Plane too.

The VE is Time.

It's Spider Time.


Rolling an inside-outing wave at the fringe of spherical expansion.

Question:
When you live in spider time, what can you barely see?

Elaborations follow.


R E C O M M E N D E D

Especially this contraption @ 9 mins to 11 mins


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