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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: 9/11 Without Tinfoil 1: The Coup Reply with quote



9/11 Without Tinfoil - The Coup

Topics in this Show:
    - 9/11: New Coup by the Old Coup
    - The 35 Year Dictator of the USA
    - COINTELPRO and the Black Panthers
    - The Psywar Game Post 9/11

DSL Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel060912a.mp3

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel060912.mp3



Certainly the most errie "coincidence" of 9/11 was the legendary album
cover from the Coup's 'Party Music' album.

I think it would be ludicrous to assume that the CIA was behind an album
--just because it's cover showed an attack on the World Trade Center towers.

I think it would be understandable to assume that the CIA was behind an album
--because it's cover showed an attack on the World Trade Center towers,
and which matched exactly the impacts of the two planes.

I think it would be well founded to assume that the CIA was behind an album
--because it's cover showed an attack on the World Trade Center towers,
and which matched exactly the impacts of the two planes; and
which was released with the word COUP in large letters over the
explosions.

I think it would be on the money to assume that the CIA was behind an album
--because it's cover showed an attack on the World Trade Center towers,
and which matched exactly the impacts of the two planes; and
which was released with the word COUP in large letters over the
explosions; and which was scheduled for release at the time of the
9/11 attacks.

There is coincidence and then there is coincidence.

I think it would be interesting to look further into this below.



The Coup (Myspace), is a rap
group from Oakland, California, founded in 1990 and fronted by Boots Riely:

Quote:


Born in Chicago and raised in East Oakland's Funktown neighborhood, Boots became a teenage community organizer, but later switched from a clipboard to the microphone, forming the Coup with rapper E-Roc. Pam the Funkstress, the first female DJ star in the famously competitive Bay Area turntablist scene, later signed on.
http://www.myspace.com/thecoupmusic

Riely has spoken about that cover and 9/11:

Quote:
Boots Speaks Out About 9-11
by Davey D-9/20/02

Last week Boots Riley and his Oakland based rap group The Coup found themselves embroiled in a controversy that was unintended. Their new album 'Party Music' was scheduled to be released. There wasn't expected to be a whole lot of fanfare.....

The problem that Boots ran into had to do with the front album cover which depicted Boots holding a detonator blowing up the now destroyed World Trade Center. The cover was shot several months ago and was in line with Boot's philosophy of not liking capitalism. The World Trade Towers have been viewed as a symbol of capitalism all over the world. Boot's depiction was designed to symbolize a concept, little did he know that his picture would be eerily prophetic. Shortly after the second plane crashed into the World Trade Center, Warner Brothers which distributes the album decided to wisely pull the album. All images of the World Trade being blown up were removed from websites and distributed material. However, the word had gotten out and days later The Coup's album cover was being discussed all over the country.....

Talk show pundits said it was just another example of the horrors 'gangsta rap'. Others said it was nothing but tasteless, cheap exploitation. Still others felt The Coup themselves needed to be investigated to see if they had any ties to subversive forces within the US....

Boots: Well, first the album got pulled. Second, people seem to be talking about this because the blast shown in the picture is on the same level and general area of where the planes crashed. When we originally made that picture it was in May and June. It was supposed to be a metaphor to symbolize us destroying 'capitalism'.

http://www.daveyd.com/bootsonthewarpolitics.html

I came up with the idea with the photographer. We took the pictures
on May 15, and we were done with it by the beginning of June. Any
similarities are totally coincidental, and it was originally supposed to be
more of a metaphor for destroying capitalism — where the music is
making capitalist towers blow up......

"The Coup are deeply saddened by this horrible tragedy," Toni Isabella, general manager of the group's label, 75 Ark, said in a statement. "The Coup advocates change, but change through peaceful means, never through violence."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/13/wtc.cover/



The record label which released Coup's album was 75Ark:

Quote:
In 1999, the Automator co-founded a label, 75 Ark, giving him the freedom to do the music he likes without trying to sell millions of records.
http://www.sfweekly.com/listenup/2001/automator.html

These days the label's website is parked: http://www.75ark.com/
But you can find them here: http://75ark.stores.yahoo.net/

We can find out a little more abouy 75Ark from a legal document filed in support of a case against Napster in 2000:

Quote:
A&M RECORDS, INC., a corporation, et al. v. NAPSTER, INC.,
Case Nos. C 99-5183 MHP (ADR) C 00-0074 MHP (ADR)
DECLARATION OF ERIK GILBERT IN SUPPORT OF NAPSTER, INC.
I am the Vice President / General Manager for 75 Ark Entertainment, a
nicheMusic.com, inc. company. I know the matters stated herein of my own personal knowledge....
http://smallbusiness.findlaw.com/biz/news/hdocs/docs/napster/napster/dec_gilbert.pdf


So, 75Ark is a subsidiary of NicheMusic Inc. and is headed by David S. Schulhof:

Quote:
Nichemusic.Com Inc.
370 7th St., San Francisco CA 94103, United States
(415)934-1300

75Ark
370 7th Street Ste. 12 , 4th Floor San Francisco, CA 94103
(415) 934-1300

David S. Schulhof Chairman & CEO
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product-compint-0001182305-page.html
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Goodman_Jennifer_8830139.aspx
Link
Link
http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/02/03/music.2.t.php


A "David Schulhof" is credited as music direcxtor on the movie Highlander IV.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0776035/

But, more interestingly, David S. Schulhof has given a number of speeches
to an outfit called the Smith Center for Private Enterprise Studies. Wonder
if this is the same guy? :

Quote:
David S. Schulhof is interested in evaluating business concepts, developing business models, and finding direction in your ideas. "Smith Center Entrepreneurship Mentor: Sharing Information and Answering Questions" April 14, 1999
http://www.cbe.csueastbay.edu/~sbesc/recspeak.html
http://www.sbe.csuhayward.edu/~sbesc/videolib.html

The Founders of the Smith Center are Owen R. and Erma F. Smith of
Castro Valley, California:

Quote:
They hope other entrepreneurs will be encouraged to support and promote free market principles.


Owen and Erma Smith present a crystal eagle to Milton Friedman at the Inaugural Lecture on November 1, 1991
http://www.sbe.csuhayward.edu/~sbesc/founders.html


Let's leave that angle and return to study The Coup's Boots Riley.

Of interest to students of COINTELPRO, Riley is reportedly the son
of a Black Panther lawyer:

Quote:
Riley, son of a Black Panther lawyer, is unrepentant.
http://www.texemarrs.com/032002/the_coup_album_lauded.htm


Let's hear some more:

Quote:


Raymond "Boots" Riley has been pushing for change ever since he was a kid. At 14, he started political organizing, canvassing for the Progressive Labor Party and other institutions. And while he rapped throughout high school, it wasn't until an incident in 1989 that he understood the power of hip hop.

While working for the pro-Communist International Committee Against Racism in S.F.'s Double Rock Projects, Riley heard from dozens of people about a then-recent instance of police brutality, in which several cops had allegedly beat on a woman, Rossi Hawkins, and her twin sons....

The group's debut LP, Kill My Landlord, which came out on Wild Pitch in 1993, featured "I Know You," Riley's re-telling of the Double Rock story, along with shout outs to the L.A. riots and The Communist Manifesto, all rapped over West Coast-styled G-funk.

Despite three rather remarkable albums, the Coup remained an underground phenomenon until 2001, when it became famous for ... an album cover.
http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2006-04-12/music/music.html


Finally, I think it would be indisputable to assume that the CIA was behind an album
--because it's cover showed an attack on the World Trade Center towers,
and which matched exactly the impacts of the two planes; and
which was released with the word COUP in large letters over the
explosions; and which was scheduled for release at the time of the
9/11 attacks; and which showed a guitar tuner portrayed as a detonator
with the words "Covert Labs" on the face of the electronic device.



There is coincidence.....

...and then there is calculated Psychological Operations
designed to send a disconcerting message that 9/11 was A Coup.

Just the CIA messing with people's heads.
Laying groundwork for the Velvet Revolution.

The real Coup was a looooong time ago. Wink

More Research by Kathy McMahon Follows:



After Five Long Bloody Years....

.... The Trance is Over.

Can you feel it?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Background to the Coup Reply with quote

The Coup's “Boots” Riley is the son of Walter Riley who was legal counsel to the Black Panthers co-founder Hilliard. He was also involved with the NAACP, and is still politically active, campaigning on the stolen election issue and hanging out with the Barbara Boxer camp.

The Panthers were taken out by a huge COINTELPRO FBI/CIA operation,
so Riley and his father come from territory rife with counterintelligence agents.

Here are some links to get the juices flowing:
Quote:
Already, he seems to be making a whole lot of peace with capitalism. The band's recently completed tour was sponsored, in part, by Pepsi.

Radical politics are a tradition in Oakland, the home of the Black Panthers at the height of their influence, though Riley was absorbing the gospel according to Karl well before he and his mom, dad and siblings moved to town. His father, Walter, was a Marxist whose own career in the civil rights movement started when he was a boy in North Carolina, soon after he heard about the 1959 lynching of Mack Charles Parker in Mississippi.

"He was taken from his jail cell and shot," says the elder Riley, now 57, in a telephone interview. "I just couldn't understand how that could happen. I went downtown and asked how to get involved." As a teenager, he worked for the NAACP, which later led to an afternoon with Malcolm X, who made a deep impression: "He taught me that you could have a revolutionary approach to change to this society without being crazy."

Walter Riley started working for the Progressive Labor Party, organizing rent strikes and agitating for welfare rights. In his late thirties, he decided he needed more education. He went to law school and became a public defender. Today he's in private practice handling criminal defense cases.

He can't recall preaching to Boots, but he's pleased that his politics trickled into the lives of all three of his kids. "My wife and I hoped that our children would ingest our ideas," he says.
http://www.sfgreenparty.org/news/newsitem.gem?idx=192

COINTELPRO
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

THE FBI'S COVERT ACTION PROGRAM TO DESTROY THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIc.htm

May 1971
Hilliard is acquitted of the charge of threatening President Nixon’s life after the Government prosecution team refuses to disclose the contents of wiretaps involving Hilliard.
http://www.pbs.org/hueypnewton/people/people_hilliard.html

I was honored to be in Barbara Boxers conference room with some of the most powerful democrats in the Bay Area represented as the delegates of the people including Delores Huerta, long-time civil rights leader and one of the founders of The United Farmworkers Union, Walter Riley, long-time activist and democratic party fundraiser
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2005/01/04/17127411.php

Defeating George Bush A conversation with Walter Riley, Matthew Hallinan and Vic
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2004/06/19/40983.php

Boots' dad wasn't always a lawyer, but he was always an activist. He held various other occupations, including bus driver, political organizer, and field secretary for the Congress of Racial Equality in the '60s. Eventually he got his law degree and became a public defender before eventually moving into private practice.

Like any parent, Walter Riley wanted his son to have a better life than the one he experienced in the Jim Crow-era Deep South. Yet while he urged Boots to go to college and possibly even "sell out and get a job," he supported and encouraged his son's rap dreams, putting up money for concerts and an indie label, Polemic Records, which released the Coup's first EP and is still run by Boots' brother Manuel. Many members of the civil rights generation haven't always seen eye-to-eye with the hip-hop generation, yet in the Rileys' case, little or no gap exists between father and son.
LINK

By the time the Coup released Party Music in late 2001, the group consisted of Boots, Pam the Funkstress, and Oakland MC T-Kash. The album received reams of press, and was declared the year's best album by the San Francisco Chronicle, made three of four top ten lists in The New York Times, and ranked number eight on the Village Voice's annual poll of music critics.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues/2006-04-26/news/feature_full.html

Raymond “Boots” Riley
A musical artist and poet residing in Oakland, California, Riley was a member of the 1990s “Marxist hip-hop” band the Coup which released four award-winning albums: Kill My Landlord, Genocide and Juice, Steal this Album and Party Music, which was named “best rap album of the year” by numerous publications. Riley has taught several workshops on arts and activism, in which he developed “guerilla hip-hop concerts,” mobile concerts on flat bed trucks
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/raceistheplace/performers.html

Riley wrote and performed the music for The Simpsons episode "Pranksta Rap". Matt Selman wrote the lyrics for the songs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coup

Homer and Bart try to convince Lisa and Skinner of how this lie has made people happier. Homer, flamboyantly trying to tell Lisa to "be cool", accidently wrecks a big-screen TV, prompting the entourage to level their guns at him. However, Alcatraaaz tells them all to relax, and using the infinite wisdom of the street, has the perfect solution: HOUSE PARTY!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranksta_Rap
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Poppy's fro. Laughing

EDIT: I just finished listening, amazing audio, well done. I love the pure political essence. I can't think of anyone I wouldn't recommend this to, on either side of the "aisle".

Salivating for more. Great job.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AWESOME segment Kathy and Fintan.
Again - everyone needs to listen to this - and keep tuning in for more.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Twas a great audio segment, guys - *this* is the kind of stuff that, as Rump said, should be listened to by anyone with any brain at all, regardless of where they are on the political slide-rule, or whatever their pre-conceived ideas of recent political history may be. Good, convincing, clearly-presented stuff!

Well done, F+K, am looking forwards to futher installments, as always. You *could* make the segments longer, IMHO, without any danger of ppl losing the thread or losing interest - so I wouldn't be afraid of doing that if you feel that some subjects could benefit from a slightly longer treatment.

Nevertheless, you do a great job fitting in what you already do in the 45-or so minutes used presently. Keep it up!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great show Fintan & Kathy! Looking forward to future shows...

Q: Has anyone here read Tarpley's 'George Bush - the unofficial biography'? I haven't, so I was just curious...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read it - quite a while back, I must admit.

I seem to remember it mentions the WWII Nazi-trading stuff, and other things about the Bush dynasty that I'm sure we've all heard before, but from differentt places. I'm gonna have to re-read it again, I think.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another fine Podcast from Fintan! I wish he'd make it a REAL podcast and make it RSS/XML enabled so more people could get it automatically.

While the audio did make me a wee bit more convinced about THE COUP album cover gambit ... I still think there needs to be more there than just "guilt by association", ie - "Boots" Riley's dad was a lawyer for the Black Panthers and the Black Panthers were the most COINTELPRO infiltrated group in the 60s, thus this album cover is PsyOp by those who pulled off 911. To me that sounds just like the, "Boots should be investigated as working with Al-Qaeda since he claims the Twin Towers were symbols of Capitalism that should be 'blown up" calls from "right wingers". I mean, do we have any evidence that Boots' dad wasn't one of the "good guys" in the Panthers working AGAINST the COINTELPRO? Do we have evidence that his dad ever worked for the Feds?

But back to the main thrust of Fintan's latest ... the "Poppy" Bush angle. I must admit, I too have been lulled to sleep regarding that stinky Bush. I used to be SO about hating that guy - we share the same birthday and that just HURTS personally.

I've been familiar with his heinousness for a LONG time, from his CIA background to the research showing he was likely coordinating the JFK Coup hit in Dallas to this probable instigating of the Reagan hit to his involvements in Iran Contra, BCCI, the SnL scandal and on and on and on. Heck I even have a video by John Judge about Bush's Nazi ties and controlling of AmeriKa from back in the 80s. I ripped the video to audio years ago and just last year uploaded the files to one of my websites ... you can listen via the links below:

John Judge: "Who Really Runs AmeriKa?"

http://www.parapolitics.info/media/JohnJudgeBushAmerika/ParaPolitics101part1.mp3

http://www.parapolitics.info/media/JohnJudgeBushAmerika/ParaPolitics101part2.mp3

http://www.parapolitics.info/media/JohnJudgeBushAmerika/ParaPolitics101part3.mp3

So now the question becomes ... what are the lines of connection between ZBig (as Ruppert calls him), Poppy and the G8 fiends whom Fintan pins as the bigwigs behind 911?

I can't wait for the next audio blast from BREAK FOR NEWS.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Elfis: I still think there needs to be more there than just "guilt by association", ie - "Boots" Riley's dad was a lawyer for the Black Panthers and the Black Panthers were the most COINTELPRO infiltrated group in the 60s, thus this album cover is PsyOp by those who pulled off 911.


Thanks for the feedback. Wink

However it's not a question of:

Boots Riley = Panthers= THUS it was a PsyOp.

It more like:

It WAS a PsyOp. End of Story.
A coincidence-stretching PsyOp.
and....
By the Way, Boots Riley = Panthers ...etc.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hip-Hop community has been aware that the one day the world trade center or somewhere in New York would be made into a national catastrophy, in order to ammend certain laws.

1992 Eric B & Rakims' song 'Casualties of War', Rakims lyrics are far from vague. Written around the end of the 1st war in Iraq.

"Cause it ain't no way I'm going back to war
when I don't know who or what I'm fighting for
So I wait for terrorists to attack
Every time a truck backfires I fire back
I look for shelter when a plane is over me
Remember Pearl Harbor? New York could be over, G
Kamikaze, strapped with bombs
"

Looking back to 1994.
Jeru tha Damaja's album cover also clearly shows the world trade centers being bombed.



Also 'Poor Righteous Teachers' New World Order (1996) album also mentions the bombing of the World Trade Center on the Outro.

"Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects."
'Bin Laden' by Immortal Technique.
If you talked to Immortal Technique which you can and should, I think you'd find that he knows that GW Bush did not orchestrate the whole thing.

In reguards to the Coup, the group.
They are hardly critically acclaimed amongst hardcore listeners. The effect of this album cover is minimal to any of Rakim's earlier raps.
Coincidence? accident? or controlled? I really don't see there to be any difference. However I'd agree with most of what you have said, it's just that I have an inside eye on this particular matter.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

systemvibrations0 wrote:
Jeru tha Damaja's album cover also clearly shows the world trade centers being bombed.


I won't pretend to know the machinations of the hip-hop community, but I don't agree. I see one tower on fire. Not both with explosions occurring precisely where the planes hit - lower on WTC2, higher on WTC1. And I'm not even sure that is the WTC - they're too far apart.

Quote:
Also 'Poor Righteous Teachers' New World Order (1996) album also mentions the bombing of the World Trade Center on the Outro.

Talking about bombing the WTC was in vogue since 1993, when it was first attempted.

Quote:
In reguards to the Coup, the group.
They are hardly critically acclaimed amongst hardcore listeners.

It's not the group, or the music. It's the cover art, period. And this cover is now known literally across the globe.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audio:
The Coup - Heven Tonite
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/systemvibrations/heventonite.mp3


I don't think you understand my/the point, I have agreed with most of what Fintan is presenting.

I'm upset that you didn't quote my Rakim comment.

Yes, it's not about the music/musicians that had cognitive prior knowledge; but the artwork in this case.

But as for sweeping up the lefts potential resistance, I'm neither a lefty or a righty, but I do know that we play our part, there is the term I like, the 'useful idiot' works for a cause he or she isn't even aware of.
As for the album, it's neither classic or reknowned material for the learned listener, however the song 'Heven Tonite' is a moving track for this 'young marxist pot head'. I'm not sure he admitted being either I don't think he mentions Mary Jane once on the entire album. It's also pronounced 'k-oop'

Here's the lyrics for 'Heven Tonite'. A simple message of harmony.
It's far more positive than the Q-Unique track that was played.

'Psychological Warefare, it don't matter get them all scared'

Chorus]
Preacher man wanna save my soul
Don't nobody wanna save my life
People we done lost control
Let's make heaven tonite
Preacher man wanna save my soul
Don't nobody wanna save my life
People we done lost control
Let's make heaven tonite
Now as I sleep may the oxygen inflate my lungs
May my arteries and heart oscillate as one
If police come may I awake escape and run
In the morning may I have the sake to scrape the funds
And if I take the plunge
May it be said that I wasn't afraid to shake my tongue
Show the state was scum
Makin' sure that the callin' bell of fate was rung
Cuz if they could the would
And probly tried to
Rape the sun
Someone said that this is just my body
Wait for the Afterpary
Where ain't no shut-off note
And every wallet there is knotty
Feet are on the asphalt
Dick in the dirt
This system take vickin' to work
Listen alert
Check out the introvert
In the corner with the rip in her skirt
Stomach pains so she grippin' her shirt
Ain't never had dinner
So she know she ain't gettin' dessert
Don't try to tell me it's her mission to hurt
I got faith in the people and they power to fight
We gon make the struggle blossom
Like a flower to light
I know that we could take power tonight
Make 'em cower from might
And get emergency clearance from the tower for flight
I ain't sittin in your pews less you helpin' me resist and refuse
Show me a list of your views
If you really love me
Help me tear this muthafucka up
Consider this my tithe for the offer cup
[Chorus]
I used to think about infinity
And how my memory is finna be
Invisibly slim in that vicinity
And though the stars are magnificent
Whisky and the midnight sky can make you feel insignificant
The revolution in this tune and verse
Is a bid for my love to touch the universe

Strugglin' over wages and funds
Let the movement get contagious and run
Through the end when it's gauges and guns
And if we win in the ages to come
We'll have a chapter where the history pages are from
They won't never know our name or face
But feel our soul in free food they taste
Feel our passion when they heat they house
When they got power on the streets
And the police don't beat 'em about
Let's make health care centers on every block
Let's give everybody homes and a garden plot
Let's give all the schools books
Ten kids a class
And give 'em truth for their pencils and pads
Retail clerk - love ballads where you place this song
Let's make heaven right here
Just in case they wrong
[Chorus]

I am not discrediting you Fintan, what you're doing is necessary and you have my full support, certain issues do need going over more thoroughly, so we know the CIA infiltrate peoples outputs, art, brains? But what can we learn from this.[/img]


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