FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in 
Clinton Plots his Comeback
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Next Level Forum Index -> General Discussion
  ::  Previous topic :: Next topic  
Author Message
Fintan
Site Admin


Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 7737

PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Clinton Plots his Comeback Reply with quote



Clearly, one big payoff for the recent ABC special on 9/11 was to frame
the issue of 9/11 as a case of who "failed to stop" Osama.

Not MIHOP or even LIHOP but merely.... F*CKUP-HOP.


But another benefit has been to allow Clinton to use the issue as a springboard
powering an already meticulously planned surge on the world stage, which
kicked off with that Tsunami Photo-Op with G HW Bush Snr. Wink

The ABC hit piece helps Clinton get left-wing support rushing to his
defense, and is entirely useful. No such thing as bad publicity.

There's some talk in the article below about Clinton heading the U.N.,
but that not likely due to the convention that the SG comes from
outside the membership of the Security Council.

(Front Runners: http://www.heritage.org/Research/InternationalOrganizations/wm1177.cfm )

But Slick Willy is already a darling of the AIDS circuit, and AIDS is the
PsyWar underpinning the next NWO Takeover: Africa. Thus the importance.

(See: http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=847 )

Anyway, just look at the list of goons who will accompany Clinton next
week as they do a global promo for AIDS drugs and Global Warming.

Quote:
Clinton plots his comeback

The ex-President's attack on TV's 9/11 drama signals his
re-emergence on to the world stage and a bid to protect his legacy


Joanna Walters in New York - Sunday September 17, 2006 - The Observer



It was the week he came out fighting. Bill Clinton's extraordinary assault on the makers of a dramatised 9/11 documentary which portrayed his administration as failing to prevent the terror attacks, was the most public example of a three-pronged effort - to protect his own presidential legacy, to relaunch himself as a world statesman and to make himself a viable First Gentleman should his wife Hillary achieve her own ambitions on the White House.

The publicity onslaught was launched by Clinton following the screening of the drama-documentary The Path to 9/11, which suggested that he failed to prevent the 11 September terrorist attacks because he was distracted by the Monica Lewinsky affair. The programme's timing could not have been worse for Clinton, coming just as he is trying to rebuild his reputation as a world statesman and while his wife is trying to gather support as the next Democratic presidential candidate .

As well as smearing Clinton the programme, which was shown in the US and Britain to coincide with the fifth anniversary of the attacks, included fictional scenes depicting his senior team dithering over whether to kill the cornered al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in the late Nineties and implied that their failure to do so left him free to plot the events of 9/11. Clinton, his secretary of state Madeleine Albright, his security chief Sandy Berger and American Airlines have furiously protested at the 'complete fabrications' in the programme - Berger and AA are considering lawsuits - which implied that they let the terrorists slip through their fingers.

The row over the political slant of The Path to 9/11 intensified when it emerged that some of the key programme-makers are politically active in America's conservative and right-wing evangelical movements. The BBC, which screened the programme in the UK, has said it was unaware of this, while the ABC network, which showed it in America, has yet to reveal if it vetted the political credentials of the programme-makers.

'For Clinton to be smeared in this way is a travesty of history and the reason the programme has been aired is not just the anniversary of 9/11 but as a major part of the Republican autumn election campaign - and attacking Clinton and his record is part of it,' said Sidney Blumenthal, a former senior aide to Clinton.

The row has revealed the former President as a man in the middle of trying to pull off a dramatic political comeback. This week Clinton will lead a diverse line-up in New York including Laura Bush, Gordon Brown, Kofi Annan, Richard Branson, Rupert Murdoch, Hugh Grant and Pakistan's President Musharraf as part of his high-profile Global Initiative conference on poverty, Aids and global warming. He is then scheduled to be the star turn at this autumn's Labour Party Conference.

Clinton's team insist that he is angry about The Path to 9/11 chiefly because of its timing to coincide with the anniversary and because it gives viewers a sense that it replicates true events. 'But the big picture is that Clinton is reshaping his legacy and he cannot allow a smear like this to go without fierce rebuttal,' one source close to Hillary Clinton's campaign team told The Observer.

After failing to persuade ABC not to air the programme, Clinton's office wrote to ABC's parent Walt Disney Corporation, accusing the company of misleading the public. Disney insists that the programme was clearly a dramatisation, not a documentary. American Airlines is considering suing for libel in the UK, where the programme also aired, because of a scene showing staff not bothering to screen one of the hijackers before he boarded the plane.

And Clinton's former national security adviser Sandy Berger is also 'examining his options' to sue, also in the UK, after the programme showed him passing the buck when US forces had an opportunity to bomb bin Laden. 'It just did not happen that way,' said a source close to Berger. 'This programme was all about showing how the Democratic administration was wimpy on terror and the Republicans reacting strongly to the horrible set-up we left them with - which is totally untrue.'

Bob Muholland, a Democrat party activist and an old friend of Clinton's, agreed: 'It needed to be rebutted. You have to, otherwise people might start believing that rubbish. Bill Clinton has to speak out every day on this issue. For average people it is obvious that Bush is responsible for the failures leading up to 9/11.'

As soon as he gets the ABC controversy stamped on, Clinton will be straight back on the comeback trail to power, his supporters insist. 'Clinton does not need a Karl Rove. He is the best political analyst in the country.' said Mulholland. And those supporters are as eager as Clinton to reshape his legacy. 'Most Americans and most Brits would agree that looking at the world situation right now, they would prefer to have Bill Clinton as president again - or Bill Clinton running the United Nations,' he added.

In the Frame

Bill Clinton may have been under fire on the screen but it is nothing compared to what President Bush is facing in a barrage of anti-government movies.

Death of a President

This British-made film digitally imposes the head of Bush onto an actor to create an image of him being murdered by a sniper, in a fake documentary whose debut at the Toronto Film Festival caused uproar in the US. Its British creators, Gabriel Range and Simon Finch, have received death threats from Bush supporters.

Shut Up and Sing

Pop group the Dixie Chicks received right-wing death threats after their tirade at a gig in London in 2003 that they were 'ashamed' of fellow Texan George W Bush. Bloodied after radio stations pulled their records, but not bowed, the Chicks are back with a 'what happened next?' documentary update about their careers since that outburst.

The US vs John Lennon

Audiences in New York applauded during the opening night of another left-leaning documentary in cinemas this weekend. It traces how the former Beatle's activism led to him being spied on by the FBI. In the film, the writer Gore Vidal comments: '[Lennon] represented life, and that is admirable. Mr Nixon and Mr Bush represent death.'


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1874278,00.html


http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=827
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Continuity



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1716
Location: Municipal Flat Block 18A, Linear North

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MSM say:
Quote:
Pop group the Dixie Chicks received right-wing death threats...

Quote:
Audiences in New York applauded during the opening night of another left-leaning documentary...

*When* will ppl get hip to the fact that as long as these bastards always keep referring to everything with this built-in 'political' bias, that no progess is *ever* going to be made? (No matter whether they're 'progressives' or not. <sigh>)

It's like they've managed to divide everyone into two sports teams, who will only support anything that's been portrayed as being of their 'team' - anything else belongs to the other 'side', so is obviously bullshit. It's a *brilliant* psychological divide-&-conquer technique, I'll give 'em that, but until ppl learn to ignore it, and to rise above it, I fear for the future of our systems, I really do.

_________________
The rule for today.
Touch my tail, I shred your hand.
New rule tomorrow.

Cat Haiku
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
MichaelC



Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 2041

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Bill have some recent plastic surgery? That's the cleanest jawline I EVER saw on a 60 year old man. Maybe he went to the same doctor that did Hillary's lift. Makes sense since on American TV looking good is the ONLY thing! Forget about the fact that what's on the inside is as stinking vile & corrupt as a rotting corpse.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rumpl4skn



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Posts: 2950
Location: 36� 3'N x 86�40'W

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic, but - I work in Nashville. It's no secret here, amongst upper level management types, that the entire Dixie Chicks / Toby Keith feud was a windfall for country music.

Yes, the Chicks had albums burned and lost airplay on a large plurality of country stations, but the swarming of Left-wing support for them has brought uncounted throngs into the country music market, many of whom came to protest but stayed for some of the music, having discovered that it's no longer Tammy Wynette and George Jones, but younger hotties like Keith Urban and tradition-buckers like Big and Rich.

The Chicks will eventually re-do their country market image, but in the meantime they are enjoying a whole new middle aged Democrat adult following, culled from extra airplay on AC stations. In addition, Toby Keith is now larger than life even outside Nashville.

Was the whole thing engineered in some Music Row conference room? Perhaps, and maybe someday I'll pour too many drinks down the throat of some exec who spills his guts. But the important issue is - deliberate or not, it worked.

_________________
"No matter what happens, ever... there's ALWAYS at least one reason. And the top reason is ALWAYS money."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
MichaelC



Joined: 06 Jul 2006
Posts: 2041

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The cumback kid
LOL.

By the way - whatever happened to Monica Blewinski?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bornfree



Joined: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 509

PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuity wrote:
The MSM say:
Quote:
Pop group the Dixie Chicks received right-wing death threats...

Quote:
Audiences in New York applauded during the opening night of another left-leaning documentary...

*When* will ppl get hip to the fact that as long as these bastards always keep referring to everything with this built-in 'political' bias, that no progess is *ever* going to be made? (No matter whether they're 'progressives' or not. <sigh>)

It's like they've managed to divide everyone into two sports teams, who will only support anything that's been portrayed as being of their 'team' - anything else belongs to the other 'side', so is obviously bullshit. It's a *brilliant* psychological divide-&-conquer technique, I'll give 'em that, but until ppl learn to ignore it, and to rise above it, I fear for the future of our systems, I really do.




Right on. It seems that the Dixie Chicks and all the rest are a move toward the left. Even before GWBush became pResident of the United States I had read that labor, folk songs and socialist would make a come back. Today we see the likes of Dylan, Dixie Chicks and even Neil Young.

Oh my.

Our white knights are beginning to appear just in time to save us.

Once again history is repeating itself, will we never learn???
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
dilbert_g
Guest





PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Right/Left divide is fake in the halls of power. Amongst The People, I don't think it is quite so fake.

Stalin aside, Leftism generally stands for Liberty. I thought Libertarian did to some extent, but seeing Mises listed alongside John Birch and Nazis and FBI and Ollie North, etc., I'm revising my opinion. In other words, there are some 'good' Libertarians ....

Quote:
Death of a President

This British-made film digitally imposes the head of Bush onto an actor to create an image of him being murdered by a sniper, in a fake documentary whose debut at the Toronto Film Festival caused uproar in the US. Its British creators, Gabriel Range and Simon Finch, have received death threats from Bush supporters.

Shut Up and Sing

Pop group the Dixie Chicks received right-wing death threats after their tirade at a gig in London in 2003 that they were 'ashamed' of fellow Texan George W Bush. Bloodied after radio stations pulled their records, but not bowed, the Chicks are back with a 'what happened next?' documentary update about their careers since that outburst.


Left wingers can be real jerks at times --- esp faux liberals and gatekeepers --- but how often do western liberals fire off death threats?
I just heard a talk radio host condemning Muslims for threatening the Pope and burning him in effigy. (One person apparently had a sign that said Jesus is slave to Allah, which is CLEARLY not mainstream Islamic -- it's more Wahabbism.)

As if the Right does not issue death threats too?
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6990#6990


Last edited by dilbert_g on Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:58 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
Fintan
Site Admin


Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 7737

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: GORE/CLINTON 2008 Reply with quote

Quote:


"The audience left buzzing about whether Mr. Gore might join the
presidential contest along with Mr. Clintons wife."
--NY Times

Quote:
Clinton Effort Reaps Pledges of $7.3 Billion in Global Aid

By CELIA W. DUGGER NYTimes September 23, 2006

A Sheraton hotel in Midtown Manhattan was the scene of feverish matchmaking over the past three days during Bill Clintons second annual gathering on global problems.

Only those who promised to do something concrete about poverty, disease, conflict or climate change were invited. The entry fee for aspiring philanthropists was $15,000. Hundreds lined up for the privilege.

In cafes, hallways and conference rooms, some of the many rich people Mr. Clinton has gotten to know over the years and others he has never met or knows only as acquaintances brainstormed with leaders of nonprofit groups, African health ministers and others who had their own plentiful ideas about how to put that wealth to work.

Kathy Sloane, a real estate broker with a cream-colored Chanel bag dangling on her arm, listened intently at workshops on global warming and religious and ethnic conflict.

A senior vice president of Brown Harris Stevens who helped the Clintons find their homes, she said Thursday that she was torn about which problem to tackle, but later settled on climate change, committing herself to work for energy conservation in the 150 high-rise buildings that her company manages in New York City.

In another packed session just down the hall, former President Jimmy Carter made the case for donations to support cheap treatments of the neglected tropical diseases he has long fought and got some nibbles.

Im not kidding, Mr. Carter, 81, said with an eager gleam in his eye. You get the phone numbers to this table, I will call tomorrow.

The star of this show was, of course, another snowy white-haired Democrat. Each time Mr. Clinton came to the stage of the grand ballroom, a sonorous, disembodied voice asked the crowd to welcome the 42nd president of the United States and inspiring movie theme music swelled at his approach.

Yesterday, Mr. Clinton triumphantly announced the results of this years Clinton Global Initiative from a circular stage in a hushed ballroom filled with more than 1,000 people.

As of now, we have 215 commitments from two times that many people and the value, my staff swears, is $7.3 billion, he said.

Many of the larger undertakings were announced with great fanfare by Mr. Clinton this week.

Sir Richard Branson, the British entrepreneur, had promised to invest an estimated $3 billion of his personal profits from airlines and a rail company over the next decade in renewable energy sources.

Various individuals, nonprofit groups and corporations among them John and Jacque Weberg, who prospered as owners of a chain of Midwestern furniture stores, and Citigroup cumulatively committed to spend over $1 billion on microfinance programs that provide poor people with loans, savings and insurance.

Mr. Clinton yesterday asked Googles wealthy founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, who he said barely looked old enough to shave, to stand and accept his thanks for giving free advertising on their search engine to any nonprofit group or charity that made a commitment through the Clinton Global Initiative.

Mr. Clinton has sought to position C.G.I. as above the partisan fray. All we tried to do is create a small piece of common ground in a contentious world, he said.

On Wednesday, Mr. Clinton rubbed his chin contemplatively and listened attentively as Laura Bush described her husbands accomplishments on global AIDS and malaria.

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York was the moderator at a panel yesterday morning on womens role in development.

Former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell spoke at another of the panel discussions.

And yesterday afternoon, Mr. Clinton boasted about the odd couple supporting his own climate change program, which tries to help dozens of big cities buy products to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Barbra Streisand, the liberal singer and actress, donated $1 million and Rupert Murdoch, the conservative media mogul, gave $500,000.

She says Ruperts richer than her and should give more, Mr. Clinton joked as Ms. Streisand went to the stage.

But there was an undercurrent of political ferment at the conference.

To fulfill the requirement that they do something to take part in the Clinton Global Initiative, David and Lisa UPrichard of Philadelphia said they were looking for a way to help wealthy people calculate how much money they gained from the Bush administrations tax cut and to encourage them give it away.

Mrs. UPrichard said laughingly that her husband, now a venture capitalist, worked in the evil pharmaceutical industry. And I made a bunch of money in the stock market. She added, All the guys who opposed the Bush tax cuts for the top 1 percent should donate away at least that much money.

The speaker who brought down the house was Al Gore, who delivered an extemporaneous riff on global warming and the planetary emergency. He was the most explicitly political of the speakers and called for replacing payroll taxes with a tax on pollution. He argued that there are limits to what philanthropy and private undertakings can do.

I have been extremely impressed at the role played by visionary C.E.O.s who have provided important leadership in helping to organize the response for the climate crisis, he said. And I commend them. But I think its time for all of us to recognize that it is government that sets the rules within which business competes. And the rules that are currently in play now send the wrong signals.

The audience left buzzing about whether Mr. Gore might join the presidential contest along with Mr. Clintons wife.

Asked about the speculation that followed his former vice presidents remarks, Mr. Clinton said yesterday morning that better public policies were needed, but there was still much that private action could accomplish.

He said he found it immensely rewarding to see Mr. Gore getting such a warm response, recalling the lunches they used to have when they were in office.

He did me his little carbon chart thing I know he believes this, Mr. Clinton said as he strode into the ballroom. People are always compelling when they follow their heart and head.


Last edited by Fintan on Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:00 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
urbanspaceman



Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 325
Location: London , UK

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, the healthy skepticism I've tried to maintain over your G8 NWO thesis has been further eroded away with this article you've posted. You have a nose for news, Fintan!

The thought of all those phoney, two-faced, soulless Machevaliean bastards parading around at that conference---uhgg, I just lost my lunch....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Fintan
Site Admin


Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 7737

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:58 pm    Post subject: ....Know the feeling.... Reply with quote

I'm slowly wearing ya down, lol.

But hey, healthy skepticism is good, and keeps me on my toes.
It the mindless skepticism that gets me.

Quote:
The thought of all those phoney, two-faced, soulless Machevaliean
bastards parading around at that conference---uhgg, I just lost my lunch....

I know the feeling dude, it got to me too as I compiled the photo montage. Wink

If you can stomach the rest of the "phoney, two-faced, soulless Machevaliean
bastards", these are piles more photos at Yahoo News: PHOTOS HERE

Quote:
You have a nose for news, Fintan!

That ol' Jewish thing again, eh? Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
urbanspaceman



Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 325
Location: London , UK

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: ....Know the feeling.... Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:

That ol' Jewish thing again, eh? Laughing


Yeah, Fintan "the Prophet" Dunne!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
urbanspaceman



Joined: 02 Sep 2006
Posts: 325
Location: London , UK

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Oh, those PROFESSIONAL actors. Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:
If you can stomach the rest of the "phoney, two-faced, soulless Machevaliean bastards", these are piles more photos at Yahoo News:


Oh no. Fintan, if you connect Lance Armstrong, Daryl Hannah, and Chris Tucker to the CIA, I'll eat my hat! Very Happy

(I don't wear a hat, though. A shoe, then.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    The Next Level Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group

Theme xand created by spleen.