Law of Attraction

[coolcrab]

Is anyone on this forum familiar with the law of attraction?

[Fintan]

A brilliant movie, full of insights and wsidom which --as coolcrab says--
is totally consistent with the Mind-Matter IOSphere I've been detailing
in the audios. It also ties into the issue of abundance and the great
mind-virus lie of scarcity.

Watch it soon. It is regularly zapped from google video.

Let me know what you think.

[Fintan]

Just in case the Google Video version is zapped, and also to cater for
readers with slower connections who might not be able to watch, I have
now uploaded two audio versions of the movie.

DSL Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/Secret-56k-Stereo.mp3

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/Secret-32k-Mono.mp3

[Nat]

sincere gratitude to Coolcrab for bringing, Fintan for hosting, and Kathy for linking

[Fintan]

Yeah, and a couple of points about the movie.

- Avoidance is negative thinking is more essential than positive thinking.

- Being positive in general produces results - even if not a BMW735i.

- The use of positive thinking to garner money on a 'hardcore-selfish' trip will fail.

- The movie implies that the wealthy have lots of cash 'cos they know the
secret of positive thinking. Yeah some do. Many have lots of money cos
they come from a long line of amoral ruthless bastards.

- The philosophy works best with a spiritual loving outlook.

Those caveats aside its a good way to love and live.

[Nat]

bloody hell Fintan, you always put it so much better

what HE said about the negative thing being more important to remove from your thoughts

[coolcrab]

wonderful! glad to see the bfn community finally being introduced to "the secret". speaking of which, this thursday ( 2/8 ) on oprah, an entire show will be dedicated to "the secret" and many of the teachers from the movie will be featured, how's that for irony? also, in november two different episodes of larry king live featured many of the teachers and covered a good amount of law of attraction concepts. pretty cool, huh?

all the dots are really beginning to connect

[truthseeker]

Great link, coolcrab. And thanks to Fintan and Kathy for making this available. I suppose the most important idea to hold is that the law of attraction (your creative ability) is ALWAYS at work. Your life IS your creation. Understanding "The Secret" allows you to remake it exactly as you choose.

Great stuff.

[DeepLogos]

Grab it from Google here: http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14115#14115
(link in Tech section of BFN)

It's a Firefox plugin... I suspect most of you already know of it...

-JH-

[Ormond]

[just0]

I think it's a good movie with a message that is a lot healthier than
99% of what we're given most of the time.

I think Fintan made some good points about it and ormond struck on
the most important issues I believe are attatched to movies like this.

'What the bleep do we know' and the influx of the whole fuzzy quantum
understandings of reality are producing this "Creating your own reality",
meme in amazing numbers, especially online.

I think the issue is vastly oversimplified in that there is no empathy
if people believe that 'you personally' are soley responsible for the
reality you create... i.e. you choose to suffer etc.

This issue has been brilliantly summed up by Nassim Haramein
in the video I posted here ....highly recommended
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1840&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Simpky stated, YES you create your own reality, BUT, so does everything
else in existence. You are the centre of the universe, BUT so is everything
else around you. It's less of a statement of 'Creating your own reality' and
more of an emphasis on CO-CREATING our reality.

i don't know about everyone else here, but I think that distinction is vital.

[Ozregeneration]

Greetings,

[coolcrab]

If you enjoyed "The Secret" Check out the Master Key System. It's a fantastic read that goes into the ideas even deeper. It might help clarify some things for you too.

[dilbert_g]

I dug it. It reminded me of some things and made me think of some new things. In my own life, I do need to focus more on creativity.

In the venue of Palestine-Israel, it's important for Palestinian Arabs to maintain a vision of peaceful and JUST co-existence with Jewish people -- whether the Jews remain there or elsewhere, and in spite of IDF and settler violence. (Having said that, it's hard to advise some people who have been FUCKED for over 50 years, and are still continuing to be FUCKED, starved, demonized, etc. to be more cheerful.)

Maybe if Fatah could get the South Park guys to do a special where Kyle decides to become and ISMer and Kenny gets killed by a tank shell, maybe this could help bring some hope.

It's also important to note what I've mentioned before elucidated by Halper -- naïve approaches to peace via a "peace process" are doomed to fail because Left-Zionist peace groups act as buffers to "bad faith" tactics of core Zionists who do not want actual peace. In other words, being so "positive" so as not to point out the ugly truth is counter-productive too.

Obviously, being negative about Bush does not help get rid of what Bush represents -- true -- but neither does simplistically being positive about the immediate opposition.
I just watched a video by Kucinich supporters. At first it had a restaurant scene where the "professor dude" harangued his guests for not being politically informed, for not reading the menu, while explaining that it's really the media's fault because they are scared of Dennis. (There's maybe some truth to that, or more likely that they enjoy marginalizing him and his supporters, but they certainly would not want Dennis' ideas to sound like common sense.)

Then the actors did creative visualization of a future world, tied with ordering from a menu. The movie glommed off The Matrix, but in kind of a lame way. Diners started EATING from a plate of giant Red Pills that looked like Placidyls or Seconals or "Hot Tamales", but the movie did not state a humorous disclaimer that this was a spoof of The Matrix. This means that anyone who did not see that movie will be really creeped out by these drug addict stoner Kucinich supporters.

Then to top it off, when the "Red Pill" reality opened, parts of Dennis' speeches were good, but overall very formulaic. Inch deep. Some was common sense. Cut defense spending -- lightly -- without harming defense-related security one iota, not freaking anyone out. Fund social programs like education and medicine. Save vast amounts of money overall. No brainer. Then take positive actions globally that can enhance security for everyone. If I were him, and if I were sincere about running, I would try to approach critics and ask them what he says that turns people off, and I would be willing to experiment with moderating the message, cut the fluff, do the math, read my lips, depending on the audience. Save the Granola talks for the Granola audiences, no need to change facts but change emphasis.

The platform is NOT really a tough sell, except for some Libertarians, and even if legit conservatives get creeped, remind them it will save money, might balance budgets, and won't involve any surges. Probably a problem is more the Style of the Messenger and the "Formatting" of the Message -- hippie in a suit -- than the Actual Message. (that and the damn voting machines)

Dennis is probably personal friends with half the people in that Secrets video.

I'm not buying it that being anti-war causes war. That's a trip they are dumping on the Left which I think is part of a psyop, reminiscent of the Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out mantra of Leary which helped split the peace movement into an either/or dichotomy of politics vs. no politics.

I will say that being excessively disagreeable turns many people off (i started to say "excessively negative" but neo-cons tend to thrive on negativity and laugh at mockery), including people who might respond differently. Especially since landing here, I try to maintain and express more humor about all this, and to break the stereotypes of either (a) liberals complaining about war and about life or (b) liberals celebrating peace like brainwashed moonies.

People who title themselves "Visionary" creep me out.

That's all I will say for now.

One more thing: What the FUCK was John Gray doing in that?!!

[dilbert_g]

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/topperycyor.htm
I accidentally stumbled across this too-harsh rebuttal (Deity-centered argument), when I was trying to find out if SOTT was Jew-hating or not (does not seem to be).

Anyhow I remembered I wanted to talk about personal realities and consensus realties with variations, and just ramble on aimlessly for a while, possibly arriving at some conclusion.

Obviously, one's personal reality is usually greatly affected by the world's consensus reality. I guess one's personal-consensus reality is a mixture of the two. It should be obvious, that in MOST ways one's personal-consensus reality should mesh with the world's consensus reality, otherwise people do not understand what you mean, you do not understand what other people mean, friction and fear may develop, and you may get locked up, perhaps for "your own safety".

You might even willfully maintain a new and different consensus reality. Malcolm X had several. Black Muslim Nationalist Separatist was one consensus reality, which separated him from some 'conservative' blacks and most whites. Later, a new Black Muslim understanding which partly repudiated his past stance on "white devils" alienated some of his peers who wanted to maintain the old consensus reality.

At least Malcolm was able to explain and differentiate the changes, explain how he got from point A to point B.

"Crazy people" are those who arrive solo at point B or G or T and forget that they need to inform others about their change in reality, selfishly forget to acknowledge others, and assume that people should just understand them. There is a Palestinian Club in a town near me. I would not go there alone. I might have tried, but I read about some hostility they have towards Jews. I would gladly go there with a friend to vouch for me, but for me to assume that they would accept my consensus reality and trust my politics -- vs. think I'm FBI or ADL -- would be pretty whacky for me, it would mean being blind to their histories and experiences which are unseen to me.

This also highlights that consensus reality has some very basic commonalities ACROSS all societies. But in terms of cultural mores, social variations, customs, unwritten rules, etc., there can be HUGE variations from region to region, nation to nation, religion to religion, as well as even from family to family.

I noted elsewhere, the consensus of the Jewish people as a people chosen -- to suffer for God -- is part of the religion, which I was never exposed to in my agnostic family, but it is also part of the Hcaust history transferred to mythology (Never Again!, etc.), but even without that, it is part of the language and temperment, and living in reaction to that may manifest as either an overall sense of victimization as a motif, or alternately a sense if defensive response to threat of victimization. (Obviously this is a general point, not true for all Jews, but a background motif as mentioned.) Similarly, some American blacks operate in victim-mode (rejecting educational advancement) (I've heard complaints from blacks) while others operate in response to that, in terms of militancy in culture and music.

I think making an effort to be aware of the existence of various cultural motifs (like when Ormond explained that a fag meant cigarette), or to be aware of one's ignorance in that area and being open to learning, is essential to communication and growth.

The consensus reality of the dichotomy of Arab Terrorism vs. The War Against Terrorism exists in a large proportion of the population. It does not appear to be a cultural phenomenon, it appears to be THE REAL Reality to them, almost impermeable, take-it-for-granted, that's the way it is, reality. I think that reality is maintained even more effortlessly than the fanatical Christian reality, which takes some effort, even on behalf of true believers. There is always risks of backsliding, doubts, whatnot. But the Neo-Con, CIA, Operation Mockingbird, War on Terror reality? It's maintained effortlessly in the plugged-in media system around us -- unless you notice some "glitches in the Matrix" or unless you happen to be a 'dissident' or other curious person who discovers "Operation Gladio" or "Northwoods" or WTC7 or the 16 second collapse of the TT.

"Secrets" suggests that I could separate from or overcome a negative or self-limiting personal reality, which is true. Portions of this negative or self-limiting personal reality may in fact be induced cultural reality, just a part of national (American) culture, OR may be intentional CIA psyop. I mention this here because, as noted, the Ruling Classes have stated a preference that the population be passive, hopeless, defeatist, dependent, depressed -- maybe not extremely so, but to the right extent for purposes of managability. So this may be part of the programmed personal reality from which I can continue to emerge into a free being.