Uncovered: The Rat's Nest of 9/11

[Fintan]

It's almost funny how the apologists for the CIA Fakes are so consistently "on message."

They never, ever deal with the issues I raise.
Just endlessly repeat the same old mantra. "Don't you have any evidence".
This, despite the fact that I have written over a score of detailed
evidentiary articles, and audio presentations in the last year.

But do they deal with any of the specific issues raised?
Nope. lol

It's like...., say, some guy is up on charges of robbing a bank, and the prosecution
mounts a detailed case: guy's fingerprints found in the bank, guy seen on the bank's CCTV,
stolen money found in his house, etc. etc.

And then the defence lawyer stands up and says: "Don't you have any evidence?"

Nice rheorical grandstanding, dude.
But in the court of public opinion people have already taken note of my evidence
and unless you can come up with something better than that.....

...Your guys are going down !

[Phil Howe]

Is that it? is that the best you can do?


1. Where is your list of approved 911 researchers

2. Where is conclusive -or even mildly circumstantial- proof that even one of the people on your list have any definitive connections to your CIA,Mi5,Mossad,etc,etc groups? Well??

For your information I have read every word you wrote in respect to these claims and articles over and over thinking that maybe I was missing the evidence you must surely of had or that perhaps you had forgotten to add it or that it woud follow shortly.....Alas Fintan I am still waiting and so are all the good people you have black balled for no other justifiable reason other than maybe it is you who is that which you suggest is in others. i.e perhaps it is YOU who is the CIA Cointelpro operative which would explain why just about every other 911 researcher is on your list and why you have as of yet not presented a 'Fintan approved' list of 911 researchers for the benefit of your audience/readership. On the later point please do tell why you have not seen fit to offer such a list, surely there must be someone out there Fintan who you would endorse no? do you not owe it to your avid fans to supply them with a 'map to the good people of 911' hmmm?? --- Or is that too much to ask?

The simple fact is Fintan most the people on your list do a lot of good and raise more awareness than you ever will, whether they are 100% right, have a belief system in all others things you agree with, are millionaires, willing to work with millionaires, run free truth radio stations, or whatever else is neither here nor there....your 911 hit pieces(did I forget the 'S') are ravings of either a paid insider propagandist, an attention junky, or simply the product of a bitter and confused mind whose paranoia has consumed his reason based faculties.


Where, Fintan, is your list of approved 911 researchers/websites which you owe to your dwindling readership simply out of appreciation for the fact that they have stuck it out this far. WHERE IS IT?

[Fintan]

[capt wardrobe]

just found this:

Nico Haupt, aka Ewing2001?s 2005 ?truthseeker? Oscars:
http://culhavoc.blogsome.com/


Hoaxer of the year:
Tom Flocco

Most annoying fake activist newcomer:
Jonathan Gold

Best research team:
team8plus.org

Best female Visualist:
Rosalee Grable

Best male Visualist:
Marcus Icke

Biggest ?political hope? 2005:
Morgan Reynolds

Biggest scam of the year:
Mike Ruppert?s 25k campaign to promote his new video

Biggest political 9/11 truthling scammer:
Karl Schwarz

Best female analyst ?newcomer?:
Lynn Ertel (911InsideJobbers, other lists?)

Best male analyst ?newcomer?:
Ron Wynn (Planehuggers etc?.)

Best research blog newcomer:
culhavoc.blogsome.com

Best tabloid 9/11 blog:
911blogger.com

Best ?outsider? 9/11 blog:
georgewashingtonblog.com

Best alternative news portal:
http://www.tvnewslies.org

Best alternative 9/11 blog:
http://total911.info/

Biggest Newcomer 9/11 research blog:
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com
http://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/

Most interesting blog:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/

Best news analysis blog:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com

Biggest alternative warcriminal:
democracynow.org

Biggest ?anti-war? war criminal:
A.N.S.W.E.R.

Phoniest 9/11 truth activists:
911truth.org

9/11 activist group of the year:
London 9/11 Skeptics

Best analyst online group:
Planehuggers Yahoo

Deceptionist of the year:
Tom Heneghan/Stew Webb

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nice to know while the Global junta
takes aim at us all

there are 'awards' to be had... isn't it...?

for all those who are defending 'the movement'

either do some work
or don't [s'up to you]

use your own mind

do not seek the acceptance of a clique

its NOT a popularity contest

because that is what 'politics' has become
'saying the things' that the most people will

'like'
'agree with'

'the message'

becomes 'preaching to the converted' ...
and then morphs into indoctrination of
an agenda...

why? because in a climate of fear - the product
is your wishing to belong to the anti-dote

you already have that power within you
so you don't need to join anything

Groups will fear your individual stance

let them


all media is manipulated...

learn how it is done
by doing it yourself

read the news & events
and realise that, say

if a series of mines
and buildings are collapsing, for instance

these stories have been chosen by an
editorial process which has been given an agenda
by it's ownership

there are billions of things happening on this planet
not all of them are deemed appropriate for the current
daily mash we are doled out

synchronicity is being designed as a reality










(more?)

[pauper]

Why is Fintan considered a back stabber? Did he put them on the dreaded list?
Fintan is the epitomy of RUTHLESS.

[General Lee]

[hawkwind]

Ah, come on Fintan, Nico is an ego maniac and not the only one … and why would you expect people to think for themselves?? Now that you listed the fakes, I guess it would be a daunting task to list the rest of the f*cking internet! If folks haven’t realized by now that most of these fakes have become a pit of snakes, eating their own tails, then what can you do? The roller coaster of these guys’s “911 truth” is over, listen to the fat lady singing!

I think that Jerry posted a comment about your inference to scalar weapons and that they are being used by the MIC. In a related topic this guy, Martin Kaiser III, who wrote a book titled “Odyssey of an Eavesdropper: My Life in Electronic Countermeasures and My Battle against the FBI “, was on C-SPAN2 last Sunday, he had some interesting comments on the 911 building collapses.

http://www.booktv.org/PublicLives/index.asp?segID=6660&schedID=398


During the Q&A session, a fellow conspiracy theorist asked for his opinion on 911. He told a subtle little story about helping to design a 150 mile long antenna in the Virginia area, designed to communicate with submarines located deep under the ocean. Since the transmissions needed to penetrate very deeply through all sorts on geographic features, very low frequency signals were needed. At first they tried using 6 cycles per second and found that this caused insanity and suicidal behavior in humans after very short exposure … not cool (brown note?). They settled on 10 cycles per second as an acceptable frequency. On the plus side, they achieved excellent deep earth penetration, on the negative; the frequency caused powerful seismic and sub-seismic waves that made things like buildings, fall down for seemingly no reason! This is very interesting stuff and worth investigating further.

Later,
- Hawk

[kathy]

[Janama]

[damocles]

[damocles]

furthermore you link to the sites you do despise.
i dont know what to think of you.

[Shaun]

Who's cares who is faking what!? The only thing that matters is clearly the US government created 911. No amount of spin will change the fact that the buildings were demo'd, planes were decoy... NEXT!!!

[Phil Howe]

The point I make is very simple. Fintan hasn't simply written a list of people/groups/websites/activists which he believes are sub standard, flawed, or otherwise below par but in a grandiose sweep of illogicality(I may of made that word up) he has simply decided they are all part of an uber disinfo campaign by way of claiming them to be 'CIA fakes'. This is all very well but such fantastic claims require fantastic evidence because the sheer insensitivity of not being 100% sure of these claims, and offering the evidence to prove it, is beyond unacceptable and very disrespectful and ultimately very unhelpful for those already confused who to trust. The end result is that the only thing Fintan will achieve,should many people actually listen to him, is more distrust, less people taking the whole 911 conspiracies seriously, and showing the alternative media to be shabby, unprofessional, and untrustworthy. Now if ever there was a pattern of a paid disinfo agent it is this very behaviour and whilst I am willing to put Fintan's antics down to a personal error on his part I am forced to now view Fintan with a healthy dose of distrust. I should know because I had great respect for him up until then but my logical and reasonable mind cannot accept such faux news style, sensationalistic, unproven, and fantastic assertions at face value without at least the very basic hints of evidence to support said claims. My points are entirely reasonable. I want to see proof Bin laden had involvement in 911 and I want proof that the people on Fintans list are what he claims they are. In both cases there is no such evidence so like most people with an ounce or two of functioning brain matter I therefore conclude that a. Bin Laden was not the mastermind of 911 and likely had little to no involvement and b. Fintan is wrong and no longer to be trusted to offer credible information. It is not my duty to prove Fintan wrong but his duty to prove his claims right. At the very least, and to show his genuine care, he ought to of supplied his personal list of trusted 911 sources for the discernment of those who trust his advice. Never mind the fact that many on that list previously had front row seats on his site for advertisement or that he still links to many of them, this however does show a by-product of either. a. a lack of care and professionalism or b. another attempt to confuse people should Fintan be a paid Cointelpro agent.

Now if there is a logical flaw in my argument, or if I appear to be being unreasonable, then I welcome being told so but in truth I am only applying the same logical principles I applied to conclude 911 was a fraudulent western agenda as I am to Fintan's unfortunate hit pieces. It is because I respected Fintan and his work that I am so annoyed to see his standard's drop so dramatically and with such unfortunate consequences for all who care about the central issue in question.

[Jerry Fletcher]

[Booger!]

Ive been looking at this stuff sunce late 2001 - I realized it because I read a lot and very quickly and came ocross official explanations which did not compute. Then I went looking for sites which document these things and I found them. And I do believe many of them to be fakes.

I have one problem. It concerns the DB Smith Hufschmid stuff. First - Their general premise as to who is responsible DOES indeed show up very prominently over and over again, no matter how you try to ignore it and follow other paths, even following the Fintan path.

The problem is that their spin on how to proceed seems to make sense. We DO know where to start and who to start with. We DO have people we can start holding responsible right now, and if the fact of the matter is that they all share a common unmentionable trait, then so be it - we must move forward regardless.

I mean .. holding the "G8" responsible... thats wonderful but how does one begin a campaighn to tar and feather and put on trial the G8 and run em out of town? You can't -
However - you can do that to individuals - such as the Silverstein guy who admnits on PBS that they put explosoives in building 7 and brought it down that day.

THAT is a good place to start - Here we have a real person, admitting demolition, a person whom ONLY his buildings come down in a nice neat fashion.

Close enough for rock&roll. And its much easier to wrap your arms around the legs of Larry Siverstein than the "G8".

Im not saying the G8 machine doesnt want all this one-world crap, but people make things happen for the G8 - not the G8 itself.

When it is all said and done, given that this site maintains that it is all the G8 NWO etc... Is the general and summarized plan of action according to this site as follows:???

"the G8 did it. we have no choice and no recourse but to document it and watch it happen. The G8 cannot be stopped"

Is this what I am supposed to get?
Is this the conclusion of efforts to figure it out?

Generally, it appears that it is, and that if I want something to do in the meantime, I can meditate on my relationship with the universe.