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 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: Audio: Introducing - AidsIsOver.com |
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http://AidsIsOver.com
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| Quote: | The Beautiful Truth Show - 26th August, 2008
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| Quote: |  AIDS IS OVER!
Celebrating AIDS Dissident success against the Lie.
Dedicated to the memory of Dave Pasquarelli, R.I.P. |
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Threat of world Aids pandemic among
heterosexuals is over, report admits
By Jeremy Laurance - Independent UK - Sunday, 8 June 2008
A quarter of a century after the outbreak of Aids, the World Health
Organisation (WHO) has accepted that the threat of a global heterosexual
pandemic has disappeared.
In the first official admission that the universal prevention strategy
promoted by the major Aids organisations may have been misdirected,
Kevin de Cock, the head of the WHO's department of HIV/Aids said there
will be no generalised epidemic of Aids in the heterosexual population
outside Africa.
Dr De Cock, an epidemiologist who has spent much of his career leading
the battle against the disease, said understanding of the threat posed by
the virus had changed. Whereas once it was seen as a risk to populations
everywhere, it was now recognised that, outside sub-Saharan Africa, it
was confined to high-risk groups including men who have sex with men,
injecting drug users, and sex workers and their clients.
Dr De Cock said: "It is very unlikely there will be a heterosexual
epidemic in other countries. Ten years ago a lot of people were saying
there would be a generalised epidemic in Asia China was the big worry
with its huge population. That doesn't look likely. But we have to be
careful. As an epidemiologist it is better to describe what we can
measure. There could be small outbreaks in some areas."
READ ON:
http://www.independent.co.uk/ |
There were two vital figures in the AIDS Dissidents battle against
Big Pharma and Poppy's Bush's U.S. Cabal. One was South African
President, Thabo Mbeki -the other was Dave Pasquarelli of ACT-UP SF.
Mbeki staked his political reputation on that battle. Dave staked
his life on it - and gave his life for it, in the end.
David's life work was vindicated in June, 2008 when the Pharma/AIDS
establishment was finally forced to concede he was right in his assertion
of the mythical nature of the alleged AIDS 'epidemic'. The victory came too
late for David, who threw himself full-blown into the battle against the
murderous Pharma cartel at cost to his own health. And was eventually
harried into an untimely early death, following his imprisonment under
'terrorism' laws and with bail set at $1.1million --for making telephone
calls to AIDS establishment figures!
| Quote: |  "AIDS, statistically, isn't a real risk to heterosexuals.
Non-drug using heterosexuals have a greater chance of
being struck by lightning than of contracting AIDS."
- Dave Pasquarelli, November 2000 Source
 "It is very unlikely there will be a heterosexual
epidemic in countries [outside sub-Saharan Africa]"
- Kevin de Cock, WHO HIV/Aids Dept., June 2008 Source |
| Quote: |  "AIDS is the medical
scam of the millennium.
Hundreds of thousands of people
were poisoned to death.
The entire American population was terrorized by
anti-sex propaganda, and billions of taxpayer
dollars were squandered.
AIDS is a medical mistake
mixed with societal homophobia."
"I think the majority of people are sick of AIDS.
They've tuned out. They're tired of the terror, tired of the
stigmatization and instinctively know that sex cannot lead
to death. Sex without condoms cannot equal death."
"At that time, there was a lot of hysteria,
a lot of fear around AIDS, and there wasn't
a rational climate to look at this disease
objectively."
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| Quote: |  "The time in jail was extremely difficult. My health suffered severely.... Michael Petrelis experienced it. I experienced it, and I'm still experiencing it.
"Jail is not a place for anybody who's immune-compromised. It's not a place for anybody who's healthy to try to keep their well-being up, but for people that have had immune problems in the past, it's devastating.....
"...When you get out of the housing areas and you're being transported around and put in holding pens, things of that sort, the conditions are simply inhumane. They would have so many men crowded into a holding pen that had no running water, and you would be there for hours. They would open the door and just toss bags of food in, and people would eat them like they were animals. There are some real problems with the San Francisco County Jail that need to be fixed. And if you're immune-compromised, it's 100 times worse.
"For the first two weeks we were in jail, people came in and pulled us out of bed in the middle of the night on numerous occasions and served papers that should in fact have been served to our lawyers. These were mostly papers that pertained to UCSF's complaints against us. Michael Petrelis, at one point, was pulled out of a shower and had to stand there and sign for the papers without any clothes on. It really alarmed our attorneys, who put a stop to it really quickly. But that was the kind of methodology that was being used to intimidate us even while we were in custody. I think it's tragic that that was allowed to happen.
I was frightened. I'm not going to lie about it. They have everything under control when it comes to your freedom, and you have no say. You can't complain about it. You just have to be awakened three times in a night to be served papers, pulled out of the shower. And that's what happened to us.
- David Pasquarelli, AIDS Activist and Political Prisoner
Zenger's Newsmagazine April 2002
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewdp.htm |
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Andrea Pasquarelli
Well, it only took 4 years and nearly 4 months to post on my brother's
tribute site. First of all, thank you to everyone who posted kind and caring
thoughts and rembrances of David. It has meant and continues to mean a
great deal. Life is still quite tough without my big brother, but time has
that bittersweet way of helping us to move on. There are less tears and
more moments of laughter when I remember something kooky he did or
see/hear/do something I would just love to share with him! I wish I could
talk to him about the current political race, recent films/music/artists, and
any number of other things that occur on a daily basis...but I know he
knows and we still communicate, just in a different way now......
Love and best wishes to all of you who visit this site.
--Andrea (Dave's little sis)
Thursday, July 3rd 2008 - 07:52:11 PM
http://www.davidpasquarelli.com/
http://books.dreambook.com/actup/main.html |
| Quote: | The ACT-UP SF 5
David Pasquarelli, Michael Bellefountaine, Todd Swindell, Ronnie Burk and Andrea Lindsay.
The photo was taken outside of the civil courthouse at 400 McAllister Street in San Francisco.
Members of ACT UP San Francisco were issued with temporary restraining orders by Superior Court
Judge Alfred G. Chiantelli, preventing them from coming within 100 yards of staffers of Project Inform,
a HIV/AIDS treatment advocacy group based in the city. |
ACT UP San Francisco were masters of agit-prop, garnering media
coverage out of proportion to their numbers and turning protest into
dynamic political theater. As stormtroopers of the dissident movement
they battled to force the issue on to the agenda -against indifference,
vested interests and prejudice.
| Quote: | Michael Bellefountaine, Michael Petrellis, Todd Swindell, Ronnie Burk and Betty Best.
Photos taken outside of the S.F. AIDS Foundation's Sixth Street headquarters on 23rd Oct 2000.
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 "You have to remember that in the beginning,
gay men were given AZT at somewhere between
500 and 1,500 milligrams per dose,
five times per day.
This stuff was poison; it says so on the label.
Scientists had studied this as a chemotherapy drug for cancer patients but scrapped it 30 years ago because it was causing deformities in newborn mice -- and from much smaller doses. But we were so desperate to live, we'd try anything in those days."
Stephen Keller - AIDS Activist |
| Quote: |  I was an eyewitness (and later a whistle-blower) to gross negligence and fraud in the Phase III clinical trials of AZT (1987 to 1990).... There were COUNTLESS unreported (meaning unreported on the research forms) diagnoses, opportunistic infections, symptoms, concomitant medications, and adverse reactions....
There was one group of approximately 90 (!) forms which were "missing" for over a year and a half. When these forms were eventually "found," mostly blank, the Study Coordinator filled in much of the information with, in most cases, no supporting documentation or progress notes in the charts. I have always believed that this data was just "fudged" or made up, because there would have been no other written record of these things (such as vital signs).
In a 27 March 1990 phone call with Carolyn Fassi, NIH on behalf of Dr. Kantz, she thanked me for bringing these issues to their attention and said it would be unnecessary for me to forward copies of my documentation to the site monitor or to NIH. She also stated that ... Dr. Kantz "may not even need to call me, except to clarify something."
In other words, "don't call us, we'll call you." I never received a call from their office or anyone else associated with these studies again.
- Lynn Gannett, Data Manager for NIH AIDS clinical trials
Syracuse, New York, (September 1987 to March 1990).
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/lgazt.htm |
| Quote: |  Four months after the trials started, they were called off prematurely, on an interpretation of provisional results deemed positive for the drug by the trial overseer. Which is odd for a drug claimed to be on double-blind test, with neither doctor nor patient supposed to know who was on what, but there we are..... As the most poisonous drug ever licensed by the FDA for indefinite use, and with the conviction apparently that the terrible new disease needed a terrible medicine, AZT was approved for use in extreme AIDS cases only.....
Scarcely a year later, in the orgy of stupidity that characterises the AIDS age, AZT was officially recommended for administration to entirely healthy people, whose misfortune it was to register positive to an HIV antibody test. Since the drug destroys the very immune cells allegedly attacked by HIV, the introduction of AZT as a treatment regimen for asymptomatic HIV-positive people saw the AIDS mortality rate among the previously well take off like a rocket.
- Anthony Brink, Debating AZT author |
| Quote: |  "The following is a list of some of the serious adverse reactions to AZT that have been observed in infants, children, and adults who took AZT for certain periods of time. It tells the story of the suffering of patients treated with AZT. These reactions include:
Neutropenia, granulocytopenia, anemia, thrombocytopenia, myopathy and myositis, hepatomegaly with steatosis, hepatitis, pancreatitis, lactic acidosis, sensitization reactions, hyperbilirubinemia, vasculitis, abdominal pain, back pain, body odor, chest pain, chills, edema of the lip, fever, flu syndrome, hyperalgesia, syncope, vasodilation, bleeding gums, constipation, diarrhea, dysphagia, edema of the tongue, eructation, flatulence, mouth ulcer, rectal hemorrhage, lymphadenopathy, arthralgia, muscle spasm, tremor, twitch, anxiety, confusion, depression, dizziness, emotional lability, loss of mental acuity, nervousness, paresthesia, somnolence, vertigo, cough, dyspnea, epistaxis, hoarseness, pharyngitis, rhinitis, sinusitis, acne, changes in skin and nail pigmentation, pruritus, rash, sweat, urticaria, amblyopia, hearing loss, photophobia, taste perversion, dysuria, polyuria, urinary frequency, and urinary hesitancy.
- Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati Ph.D |
| Quote: |  Like other disbelievers, Maggiore was once herself a believer in the traditional AIDS model. Active in AIDS Project Los Angeles, the L.A. Shanti Project and a founding member of that area's Women at Risk organization from 1992 to 1995, Maggiore said her transition began after seeing people around her follow "doctor's orders" and go on the various drug therapies.
"Every single woman on the Women at Risk board was taking medications. And they've all died," she says.
http://breakfornews.com/aidsmyth/articles/theaidsdisbelievers.htm |
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http://AidsIsOver.com
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Wu Li
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WOW!
A great Great one.
Kudos to you sir!!!!
This is powerful and I love the site.
Don't know if I can contribute much but I will follow it intently.
Whatever you placed in the audio and the links is something I do agree with and have for many years.
Being from the New York City Tri State I have many individuals who will appreciate this info so I have placed it in email form (as is) for my friends to spread at will.
Hopefully some will chose to attend and read everything you have to offer.
I have friends myself who deal with the issues you have laid out so well in the audio.
I am happy you put this forward.
Kudos to you sir. 
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| Wu Li wrote: | WOW!
A great Great one.
Kudos to you sir!!!!
This is powerful and I love the site.
Don't know if I can contribute much but I will follow it intently.
Whatever you placed in the audio and the links is something I do agree with and have for many years.
Being from the New York City Tri State I have many individuals who will appreciate this info so I have placed it in email form (as is) for my friends to spread at will.
Hopefully some will chose to attend and read everything you have to offer.
I have friends myself who deal with the issues you have laid out so well in the audio.
I am happy you put this forward.
Kudos to you sir. |
Ditto.
I'm taking a class this semester, "The Geographic Imagination", and for the research project I am hoping to explore some of the social and psychological mechanisms that set this whole thing in motion, and then chart the dissidence movement both here and in Africa. When I emailed the professor about this he was a little uncomfortable, but I feel like if I can present the information clearly and concisely, most would be receptive.
Needless to say, I'll be hitting up the website often. Great stuff.
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| A couple months ago my girlfriend, who's a nurse noticed they were backing off on hiv in drug commercials. She said she thought an admission was coming soon. |
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Excellent audio Fintan. Thanks.
Here's an interesting YouTube video about Robert Gallo, the "inventor" of AIDS, so to speak. Fintan, please note the last line of the video clip:
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Good job FD.
I've said for 20 years HIV/AIDS was a lie. Most of the medical profession are ghouls.
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http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=603674
Some research, most of it totally ignored, points to bacteria (also mycoplasma-like bacteria) as an important and necessary ``co-factor`` for the development of HIV infection into ``full- blown AIDS.`
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=7&Itemid=71`
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/398.html
Cancer as a fungus
1. in both of these cases, the "bad guy" is a mycoplasma-like bacteria that acts like a fungus or a fungus that has sometimes has bacteria-like properties. it changes its shape and attitude depending upon its environment. mycoplasma-like means it can either have a rigid cell wall or not. without the rigid cell wall it can expand like a fungus sending filaments throughout its host.
2. proper nutrition and an alkaline system stops the spread.
the attack could be seen as part of nature's recycling process".
like a tree in the forest, the fungus/bacteria wants to convert the host back to the earth. to prevent it, you remove the conditions that allow the the fungus/bacteria to grow.
3. AIDS, like Cancer are marketing ploys
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Thanks for the audio, I did a bit of research, and was astonished to find out the third leading cause of death in the United States is iatrogenic in orgin.
Also, I remember when Aids first appeared, Zappa postulated on Crossfire the virus was manufactured in a lab. |
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Thanks for the positive feedback, folks.
Michael Ellner is a good guy for mycoplasma issues. Will check with him.
| Quote: | Rick Dagless: Here's an interesting YouTube video about
Robert Gallo, the "inventor" of AIDS, |
As to the biowarfare issues, Horowitz is full of it.
The core issue the dissidents have with HIV, is
that it is harmless. Hundreds of studies have
confirmed HIV is nothing, and so-called 'co-factors'
are everything. So what kind of a biowar agent
is that? Useless. Like Horowitz's argument.
And how do you test a biowar agent which
would take 10 years to go 'full-blown' ??
You can't. The biowar thing is a crock.
Anyway...
Get ready for expanded HIV testing as a matter of routine:
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http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/05/clinton-on-aids-we-should-do-more-at-home/ |
| Quote: | Plans to Expand AIDS Testing Alarm Activists
By MARILYN CHASE - July 5, 2006
Federal officials are readying new guidelines that propose routine HIV tests for people 13 to 64 years old. But fears that the change could short-circuit patients' rights are prompting protests and even legislation.
The proposed policy changes are part of a sweeping effort by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to streamline HIV testing. While lacking the force of law, the new guidelines would urge doctors to offer the test to everyone with basic health care, regardless of their risk factors.
The test would remain voluntary. But pretest counseling would be trimmed, or even eliminated, and consent could be obtained orally instead of in writing, as many states now require. The CDC says broader testing is needed because about 25% of the estimated one million Americans with HIV are unaware they are carrying it.
But concerns are mounting from city councils to Congress that the HIV tests would impinge on individual rights and attach a damaging stigma to thousands of patients while failing to ensure that they will receive treatment. Civil-liberties activists and a range of politicians are arguing that expanding testing without also maintaining counseling and expanding access to care will leave patients worse off.
Many AIDS advocates support broader testing, but only with full counseling and documented consent. "Do we support broader testing? Of course we do," says ACLU attorney Tamara Lange in San Francisco. "What we disagree with is the push to obtain testing by deceiving people about what will happen if they get tested." She adds, "We live in a world where we [still] get many complaints of HIV-related discrimination in housing, employment and health care."
As the CDC lays out its plans, the debate over updating HIV testing policy went global this week as the World Health Organization and UNAIDS began consultations in Geneva on how best to scale up testing to increase access to prevention and care around the world. "Testing has to become more normal," says the WHO's new AIDS Director Kevin de Cock. While opposed to forced testing, he adds, "Testing strategies have got to change. The status quo is unacceptable. It is a barrier to treatment."
Indeed, generally, only patients who are identified as carrying the HIV virus can be treated for it. And by uncoupling widespread testing from questions about sexual behavior, the stigma associated with HIV will subside, argues Tim Mastro, a top HIV prevention official at the CDC.
But what happens if patients are identified as HIV-positive and then can't or don't get treatment? "CDC's recommendations make sense in a world that can provide accessible health care without stigma," Marla Gold, dean of the School of Public Health at Drexel University in Philadelphia, says in an email. "Regretfully, we are not living in that world."
Opponents worry that busy clinics and harried doctors could take shortcuts, or fail to explain the virus, misleading or coercing vulnerable patients.....
The push for routine testing comes on the heels of new laws requiring HIV positive people to be reported by name. This shift to name-based reports by states -- now required if the state is to receive federal AIDS funding -- fuels fears that routine tests will be a tool for government surveillance, or that it will increase incidents of discrimination if data aren't kept highly confidential....
http://online.wsj.com/public/article_print/SB115205638405897846-14_VEljk_oKJX14_4fufQXT9mMg_20060804.html |
| Quote: | U.N. Urges HIV Testing for All Patients in Hard-Hit Nations
By Craig Timberg - Washington Post - May 31, 2007
JOHANNESBURG, May 30 -- U.N. health officials on Wednesday called on nations with severe AIDS epidemics to offer routine, confidential HIV tests to all patients at health-care facilities in hopes of dramatically expanding the number of those who know they have the virus.
Patients would retain the right to refuse the test, but the new guidelines mark a significant departure from the common practice of relying on patients to seek tests for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. U.N. officials estimate that nearly 80 percent of the people with HIV in poor and developing countries do not know they have it. In Africa alone, they said, nearly 20 million people with HIV are not aware they have the virus
The new guidelines will not immediately alleviate the problem. Individual nations must first decide whether to adopt them and allocate money to expand testing.
That is likely to prove difficult in sub-Saharan Africa, where a severe shortage of doctors and nurses already is straining health systems, medical experts said. The new guidelines also call for mandatory counseling to accompany the HIV testing. No new U.N. funding has been set aside for the initiative.
"I see difficulty in following those guidelines in our circumstances," said Derek von Wissell, head of Swaziland's national AIDS council, speaking from the capital, Mbabane. "It's going to take an hour per patient. And I don't think we have that kind of resource available to us."
The guidelines also call for physicians anywhere in the world to offer testing to patients who exhibit symptoms of AIDS. But in the several dozen nations where infection rates exceed 1 percent, everyone seeking medical care should be offered an HIV test, regardless of their symptoms or the reason for seeking care, the U.N. officials said. Malawi, Botswana, Kenya and Uganda already have similar policies.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/30/AR2007053002180.html |
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As a person who has been involved with Hep C and A.I.D.S for quite some time ( I have genotype 1a Hepatitis C for thirty years, and had a liver transplant) my take on the issue is that the A.I.D.S. deniers are being misled by the Alex Jones types so that the tainted blood scandal of Bill Clinton and Factor 8 becomes meaningless. Bill Clinton is behind the rapid spread of A.I.D.S and Hep C in my country (Canada). If H.I.V. does not cause A.I.D.S the government here does not have to pay out billions from the tainted blood scandal. The real horror, The Arkansas Prison Blood/Factor 8 Scandal when Bill Clinton was governor of that state shows how tainted blood made itself into the blood supply of Canada and other countries (America did not fall for the trap) and infected heterosexuals. There is no such thing as a virus that only attacks gay men.
When A.I.D.S first appeared, I remember from friends who suffered that the virus killed them rapidly. In those days the antiretrovirals were indeed deadly. With advancements in this field the medicines are not what they used to be. Lifespans have increased.
I can`t believe after Eliza and two independent autopsy reports there is still deniers out there.
http://www.gay.com/health/safetyzone/article.html?sernum=3265
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When A.I.D.S first appeared, I remember from friends who suffered that the virus killed them rapidly. In those days the antiretrovirals were indeed deadly. With advancements in this field the medicines are not what they used to be. Lifespans have increased. |
Er... could you clarify this? If lifespans have increased since the antiretrovirals have become less "deadly", what is the basis for asserting that it was the "virus (that) killed them rapidly"?
Is it not more logical to conclude that the medicines are doing the damage?
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"Christine Maggiore, AIDS naysayer" What a title. The article was laughably biased, but even so managed to throw some support into Mrs. Maggiore's corner:
| Quote: | | Then, after one doctor prescribed the antibiotic amoxicillin, the girl took a sharp turn for the worse and died less then three days after her first dose. |
Check out some of these comments on amoxicillin allergy:
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/amoxicillin/T8EOTC6UVVFJP0NUA
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As I thought the denialists have nothing to back themselves except nitpicking articles and ad homs. If you have evidence that H.I.V. does not cause A.I.D.S get up of your disease-free arses and publish an article in Lancet. As for the amoxcillan bullshit, how do two different pathologists come up with A.I.D.S related pnuemonia, yet the amoxcillan overdose theory came from a doctor on her own website who is not a forensic pathologist. Distorting information to fit a theory is not what science is about. Anyhow, battling denialists is like argueing with creationists. There is no CONTROVERSY. Medical science is in complete consensus with the theory.
Oh, and by the way, AIDS is not over for the thousands of families that will lose a loved one this year. To wear the mantle of Galileo, one first must be right.
http://www.avert.org/evidence.htm
http://www.physics.smu.edu/pseudo/AIDS/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_reappraisal
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When A.I.D.S first appeared, I remember from friends who suffered that the virus killed them rapidly. In those days the antiretrovirals were indeed deadly. With advancements in this field the medicines are not what they used to be. Lifespans have increased. |
Er... could you clarify this? If lifespans have increased since the antiretrovirals have become less "deadly", what is the basis for asserting that it was the "virus (that) killed them rapidly"?
Is it not more logical to conclude that the medicines are doing the damage? |
Yes, when the ARVS first came out they probably did kill. But advances with HAART have minimized this. No one argues that the ARVS and retrovirals are very hard on you. What`s the alternative? Well if you listen to former health minister of South Africa, Manto Tshabalala-Msimang if you use garlic,beetroot,olive oil and lemons you can cure the disease.
I recently made the decision to go on a 48 week couse of interferon and the retroviral ribavirin and it was pure hell. Life with these chronic ailments is not fun. Everyone with a chronic viral condition have to make these decisions on there own with a doctor and not be swayed by disinformation on the net.
Maybe I will start a thread on the Factor 8 scandal, which is a true conspiracy.
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videodrome666, if you're for real, you must be far and away the most paranoid person ever to post on this forum.
Thanks for the laugh. |
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