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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: Audio - 2010: It's The New Wild West! |
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The Next Level Show - 19th January, 2010
2010 : It's The New Wild West!
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| Quote: | The Mayan Sixth Night
Before going into the specifics of the upcoming sixth night, November 8, 2009 – November 2, 2010, of the Galactic Wave Movement (or Underworld) I feel I should clarify some of my basic points of departure for understanding the Mayan calendar, since the various ideas that are currently proposed for this vary significantly. There are for instance those that believe that the end date of the Mayan calendar only marks the end of a cycle and the beginning of a new. On my own part I however think that we are approaching something much more profound than just a point in a cycle that again will be repeated. The only Mayan inscription from ancient times, the Tortuguero monument, which describes the end (http://bit.ly/3Ni2rD) of their calendar says that nine cosmic forces will then manifest. Empirically, there is also overwhelming evidence from modern research that we are approaching a point in time when nine evolutionary levels (so called Underworlds) of the cosmic plan are simultaneously going to be completed. This would imply that we are approaching not another cycle or another shift, but the end to all shifts, which have been driving evolution since the beginning of the universe. Such an end to all shifts could conceivably provide the basis for a harmonious eternal peace on Earth.
What is about to transpire now is in other words not something that has ever happened before in the history of the universe. Maybe this impending change, partially unknown, causes the widespread denial that I feel dominate many people at the current moment. Rather than facing a great change in our socioeconomic relationships (since any change in human consciousness also implies a change in our relationships) many prefer to fantasize about some physical or astronomical event, that purportedly is going to happen on December 21, 2012. In reality the Mayan calendar is however not about something that will happen on a singular date, but a description of a divine plan for the evolution of humankind where quantum shifts between calendrical energies bring about shifts in consciousness. Thus, human consciousness will continue to be transformed step by step in accordance with this plan until we come to the real end date of the process of creation, October 28, 2011. At this date the highest quantum state of the universe will be attained (13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13 13 Ahau) when the shifts disrupting the harmony will come to an end. Obviously, we are not there yet.
In this plan for the evolution of consciousness we are now approaching the sixth night of the Galactic Wave Movement, the eighth of the nine levels, which will begin on November 8, 2009. If my understanding of the Mayan calendar is correct we will in this coming night be witnessing the most significant transformation of consciousness ever in the history of mankind. What is exciting about this is that I feel that a relatively clear picture of how a new world is going to be born is now finally becoming evident. On the other hand, what is also becoming increasingly clear is that this birth is likely to become very demanding. For this reason it becomes all the more important to understand how some of the difficulties ahead actually serve the delivery of this new world even though it may not always seem that they do so in the moment. If people can gain a realistic understanding of how this new world will be born they may be able to keep a hope for the future, which is based on something more than mere wishful thinking. Unfortunately, much confusion reigns about the Mayan calendar and many that present themselves as experts on this deny the ancient Mayan knowledge that there are nine cosmic forces that are about to manifest, and that it is these, and nothing else, that explains why a new world will be born.
Thus, what will happen in the time ahead cannot be understood from the sixth night of the Galactic Underworld alone. The overlapping of the cycles preparing for the ninth, and highest, level in the cosmic evolution scheme; the Universal Wave Movement (see Figure) with the energy of this sixth night will then also need to be taken into consideration. Because of this overlapping, and the speed-up of time associated especially with the latter Wave Movement, not only do I think that the upcoming period will be unusually intense, but also energetically quite complex.
At the time of this writing (October 31, 2009, 1 Ben) we are towards the end of the sixth day, the period of flowering in the process from seed to mature fruit in the Galactic Wave Movement, which precedes the sixth night. As I predicted in an earlier article it would now to some economists seem that the “global economic recession” (or the worst of it) is already over. There are however certain things currently going on in the world that belies this and are more in line with the prediction I made in an article in May (http://bit.ly/qeisX) of a further economic downturn, especially expressed in a fall in the value of the US dollar, to take place around the time that the sixth night begins (see also: http://bit.ly/2faPHG). While several sources now predict a dollar fall it is important to note that mine was made a relatively long time ago and if it proves to be correct shows that what is happening in the economy is part of a divine plan charted by the Mayan calendar.
My prediction of a further economic downturn was based on the observation that nights, at least in the second part of an evolutionary Wave Movement, usually mean at the very least a slowdown of economic growth. An indication of such an impending downturn at this upcoming night is for instance that there has been a rush for gold, which for the first time passed the magical limit of USD 1000/troy ounce. Moreover, an index of insider trading shows that people knowledgeable about the actual basis for valuing US stock tend to think of this as highly overvalued. Most importantly, increasingly higher voices are now raised in almost all corners of the world for the replacement of the petrodollar system and thus also of the use of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. These various indices thus do not indicate that the “recession” is over, but if anything that an intensification of the economic decline, especially in the indebted West, is imminent. It seems that investors are escaping assets in the form of paper or digit values, which is exactly what we would expect from this late phase of the Galactic Wave Movement, when a shift in consciousness amounting to a shift from abstract to concrete economic values is taking place. Thus, while many will say that the changes are a result of a conspiracy, for instance against the US, the point to realize is that if that were the case they would not have been predictable from the Mayan calendar.
I believe that what is happening in the world’s economy is something much more profound and fundamental than a temporary recession and is a direct consequence of the particular transformation of consciousness that the Galactic Wave Movement is bringing. As I explain in my new book The Purposeful Universe (http://bit.ly/yvXjH) consciousness is primarily a relationship to the Tree of Life, which exists on many different levels of the cosmos and causes synchronized shifts on these different levels. What this means is that the shifts in consciousness that give new directions to our lives will also directly affect the world and society at large and how we relate to this. A shift in consciousness is hence not something that only happens in our heads, but is simultaneously also expressed in changes in our relationships. Our economic relationships are thus also subject to shifts in consciousness and the evolution of this. We should then expect an even further escape from abstract values as the sixth night begins, a shift that may be expected to especially severely hit the western economies of the United States and the United Kingdom, which remain the financial centers of the world and control much of its banking activities. At the present time these nations, and especially the United States, are so indebted that there really is no need to present an explanation as to why there would be another downturn in its economy. All that is needed for this is something to trigger what is going to happen anyway one way or another. While many things may trigger such a downturn, and the media will place all the emphasis on this trigger, the deeper reasons for a downturn is best understood from the Mayan calendar. From a Mayan calendar perspective the ongoing decline in economic growth reflects a stepwise adaptation to the end of the economic cycles that will be associated with the Mayan end date (or beginning date of a new world if you like).
If the downturn of the economy is part of a process creating the conditions for the birth of a new world a relevant question to ask is how deep it is going to be. Even if it seems clear that the value of paper money, and especially the US dollar, will be hit, it is still somewhat of an open question how far-reaching the consequences of this will be. I think this can only be understood from a study of what might be the nature of the new world to be born. When it comes to understanding this it seems however that there are actually no ancient Mayan sources to consult. The Mayan sources only say that Nine cosmic forces are going to manifest as the calendar comes to an end, but there is no ancient inscription, which talks about what will follow upon this. Because of this dearth of material I suggest that we turn to sources from the large Abrahamic religions such as the Bible or the Quran, which do say something on the matter. If we combine these with our understanding from the Mayan calendar I feel we may gain some idea of what is to come. I believe everything that has been happening in this time plan has been subordinated to the delivery of this new world.
Hence, the Quran says this in Surah 82:17-19: “And what will explain to thee what the Day of Judgment is? Again, what will explain to thee what the Day of Judgment is? (It will be) the Day when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another: For the command, that Day, will be (wholly) with Allah.” I believe this disappearance of dominance may refer to the Universal Underworld, which brings a consciousness of oneness and transparency to our whole beings and all of our past actions. If we take this seriously it would imply that all chains to people dominating others would need to be broken. The last book of the Bible, the Book of Revelation 21:4-5 also describes a new world to be born: “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.” This would seem to imply that all chains to the past would need to be broken for the new world to be born. Taken together it would seem that as pre-requisites for the birth of a new earth we would need to free ourselves from the chains to the past as well as from chains to other people.
To some these changes may look so great that it might even be more comfortable to fantasize that the world would come to an end than to go through all of the necessary changes that would more or less turn our world upside down. Certainly, there is also a tremendous amount of people in power, who do not want to see such a transformation towards equality and harmony coming about. These quotes may however give us a hint about where the economic downturn may be leading us and how deep it will be. Will money for instance completely disappear? I think the answer to this is that money will disappear to the extent that it no longer chains the world to the past. In practice, this probably means that all thinking about profitable investing etc is somewhat beside the point, since the emerging new world is not likely to be a growth economy based on the drive for accumulation of abstract values. More likely, the new world is going to be one based on sharing and care-taking of all members of society as the unity consciousness of the Universal Wav Movement, presumably after much turmoil, eventually is established. The more immediate time period in the sixth night will then be when the practical expressions of this transformation will need to be tested out and implemented. This may from the perspective of the current world seem unthinkable. Yet, there is no such thing as an eternal human nature and our perception of reality, and what we are propelled to create, always varies between the different Wave Movements. The human beings of the Regional, National, Planetary and Galactic Wave Movements are completely different in their approach to life and the universal human being that will be created by the Ninth and Universal Wave Movement will represent the crowning step of the evolution of consciousness. Thus, she is then likely to embody a different perception of the world and different qualities compared to previously. An economy based on sharing is of course fully possible if the unity consciousness carried by the Universal Wave Movement is successfully established. Even if the energy changes will now be happening quickly I should add that it may take some time (in the range of a few years after 2011) until this economy takes its final form.
So how in practice could such a transition come about from a human being, who essentially looks after herself to one that sees the unity of all and shares the fruits of creation? Such a transformation of our experience of life may now seem as impossible as the fall of the Berlin Wall once seemed. But similarly to how the fall of the Berlin Wall ultimately was a reflection of a transcendence of an east-west polarity in human consciousness the new world to be born is designed to result from a transcendence of the inner and outer walls maintained especially by the western mind. Thus, my suspicion is that during the first half of the sixth night the world’s economy will increasingly slow down as the consumption of the US population will no longer be able to keep the industrial engines of the world going. The power of the US in the world would decrease as a result of a dollar fall.* Yet, because of the indirect effects of this downturn, no part of the world can expect to be untouched. In this downturn it will then come a point when it will start to dawn on many people that it will never be possible to resurrect the old growth economy and that there will never be any return to a “business as usual.” At that point very radical socio-economic solutions will need to be explored for people to survive also in a literal physical sense as it becomes obvious that it is the nature of the economic relationships and the chains to the economy of the past that cause the problems. We may for instance ask what will happen if major portions of the population in economically significant countries will not be able to pay their mortgages? Will these people then have to leave their houses in mass so that countless houses owned by banks will sit empty when people are out on the streets? This is the kind of situation that has already appeared in some previously car manufacturing suburbs of Detroit. Hence, this scenario is not hypothetical, but has already to some extent happened on a limited scale.
What likely will happen then is that demands will be raised for a moratorium on debts, so that people will no longer have to pay to the banks to stay in their homes. Maybe this will be preceded on a larger scale by some nations that see it necessary to push for the cancellations of national debts as a means of stabilizing the world. If such a moratorium on debts is instituted it would however be like cancelling the power of money and the chains to the past as it exists now. This would effectively create a path towards a sustainable economy an economy where it is emphasized that the needs of people are met in the present moment (returning to the theme of cutting the chains of the past). This of course would be nothing short of a revolution, and most likely a worldwide such, since the worlds’ economies at the current time are so deeply entangled. Possibly this would spread from the US to much of the rest of the world. Such an enormous transformation of the world’s socio-economic system would then be likely to take place in the time period between July 17, 2010 (the Cosmic Convergence)** and the beginning of the Seventh day of the Galactic Wave Movement (November 3, 2010). Naturally, it would serve to dissolve many of the other systems of dominance that the world has inherited especially from the National, but also the Planetary, Wave Movement. Energetically speaking this time period, July 17- November 3, 2010, is created through the overlap of the pre-Universal Underworld and the Galactic Wave Movement.*** What this revolutionary time period most likely is going to amount to is a corresponding decrease of governmental and national authority (not that of any particular government, but governmental authority as such, something which humanity has inherited from the National Wave Movement and its patriarchal frame of consciousness. Needless to say some would try to take advantage of such a situation). It will seriously come into question what we need governments and national borders for “when no soul shall have power (to do) aught for another.” My vision for the time period from the Cosmic Convergence until the beginning of the seventh day of the Galactic Wave Movement is thus a total overhaul of human civilization. This then would also be a time to make choices of path individually.
Why would this particular time period, July 17, 2010 – November 2, 2010, bring such a revolutionary transformation? Well, there are two earlier time periods that are noteworthy as parallels to this upcoming one. One is AD 1498-1617, the Renaissance, which in a broad sense meant the overturning of the feudal system that saw the Vatican as the ultimate source of worldly power and the beginning of the modern era. The other is 1986-1992, which carried a revolutionary wave of democracy (including the fall of the Berlin Wall) resulting in a world whose hemispheres were no longer separated.
We may also notice that the two corresponding revolutionary time periods gave rise to new expressions of spirituality, in the first case the Reformation and in the second the Harmonic Convergence**** that became somewhat of a starting point for the eclectic New Age movement of our own time. This would indicate that also this time, following the Cosmic Convergence, there will be a new spiritual awakening. Since the Cosmic Convergence would be the first breeze of a unity consciousness this would imply that people would then be divinely inspired to share and recognize the unity of all creation. I believe it will be a spirituality beyond words based on the immediate experience of the divine. Hence, while the Reformation was an awakening emphasizing the written word and the New Age movement originated in esoteric ideas that were sometimes channeled or spoken I believe that the spiritual awakening ahead will not be something that can be formulated in words and will be based on plain knowing.
I feel it is an open question whether this transformative revolution between July 17 and November 3, 2010 will be peaceful, but the parallel to the time period 1986-1992 indicates that this at least is possible. What seems clear however is that people will be divided as to whether they want to flow with the incoming energies leading towards a new world or if they will resist them and seek to hold on to or go back to the system of the past. It is then no wonder that strong forces will try to present the Mayan calendar as if it is about something that will happen on the date December 21, 2012. (A typical example of this is the upcoming Hollywood movie 2012, a disaster movie, but most New Age gurus have prepared the ground for these nonsense fears by emphasizing this singular date and ignoring that the Mayan calendar is constituted by nine levels of evolution). How people will relate to this change will thus also depend on the understanding people have of the Mayan calendar and the cosmic plan, which at the current time only a very small minority is aware of at least in its true form as a manifestation of nine cosmic forces. People at large may in fact never recognize any conscious warning signals for what is to come. Yet, inasmuch as they understand that the large-scale changes emanate from a divine plan this would mean that a spiritual awakening could take place. If this happens they will not be inclined to look at the changes around them as just meaningless chaotic events as they surely will be presented by the dominating media.
Considering that this is all about the participation in a process of evolution of consciousness there is a great danger in people believing that the Mayan calendar is about a singular date when some event will take place, whether this is made up to be a “pole shift”, “galactic alignment,” “Planet X,” “end of the world” or “shift in consciousness.” This is an incredibly naïve view of an essentially superstitious nature where a new world is believed to simply fall down upon the human beings from the sky without their active and conscious participation in the processes leading up to a state of unity consciousness. In reality, there is overwhelming evidence that the Mayan calendar describes sequential shifts in consciousness, which will begin to be experienced at an even higher frequency after July 17, 2010 and even more markedly so after the beginning of the actual Universal Wave Movement on March 8, 2011. Only at October 28, 2011 will the shifts come to an end and a unity consciousness stabilize that will provide the basis for a millennium of peace. This frequency increase incidentally also explains how such a tremendous overhaul of all systems of dominance could take place in such a short period of time. A recommendation I would like to make, in addition to ethical living and telling the truth, is to learn to flow with the ninth level (http://bit.ly/WWjiG). Stay in the middle of the river with a focus on the manifestation of the new world!
Carl Johan Calleman
http://www.maya-portal.net
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Thank you kindly for the audio's Fintan, I have literally just downloaded them so I haven't listened yet but it seems that the RonPaul.mp3 is broken or it doesn't fully download. Perhaps it is me? Thanks again anyway dude  .
Update: Hmm...seems as though by clicking on the RonPaul.mp3 link, and by then going into the address bar and deleting the last ".mp3" line, you get a working file lol.
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One of your best audios ever, Fintan.
Especially your clarification of the drugs situation, right on. |
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Nice one, dude!
Thanks for working the Calleman stuff back into the mix, the morality angle is the sweet spot!
This quote strikes the deepest cord in my psyche:
Hence, while the Reformation was an awakening emphasizing the written word and the New Age movement originated in esoteric ideas that were sometimes channeled or spoken I believe that the spiritual awakening ahead will not be something that can be formulated in words and will be based on plain knowing.
Time for us to just KNOW!
Looking forward to the Calleman interview!
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What is with the Mayan angle?
You lose credibility posting this Pagan trash.
You make AJ look intellectual.
I'm bemused
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:47 am Post subject: Swiss-cheese mentality? |
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One of the prices to be paid for open-mindedness.
The critical analysis discriminates systems and not results from predictions. Thus, any system that fails to stay on point is automatically eliminated. Those that remain consistent are then available for critique.
Old-world sagacity stays as long as we are dealing with human beings and their foibles. The interrelationship with our vibrational states and those of the greater cosmos are part of the mystery that abounds. We observe and having observed, change the nature of the observation. It is a collaborative process and therefore requires our presence.
Dissenting views are always welcome.
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Peter
do not hide behind flowery words. Leave that to 19th Century Romantic poets.
You're no Shelly nor are you anywhere near the brlilliance of Byron.
The fact is, if Fintan bangs on about Mayan this-and-that it dilutes the main idea.
The thrust gets lost.
It's a bit out there, no?
Avatar? Funny but, was not it AJ that exposed the former first for its Gaia BS?
It's a rhetorical question and, oddly it deserves a bloody good explanation.
Mike had his 'nature trick'. Now its Fintan's turn to 'graph up'? [Hey, I just invented a new phrasal verb!]
Fintan?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject: in retro ex verbio |
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Once I get clear of one past-life experience....they just keep pulling me back in!
You are afraid that the Mayan perspective is somehow detracting from our appreciation of the mind-fucking that we are continuously exposed to?
For myself, any and all information can be useful in dealing with these traps.
Despite our shortcomings and strengths, doing what we do is necessary, each and every one of us. Otherwise, we wouldn't be here.
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I am in total agreement that we live in special times, and that fundamental things are changing in the world. I'm trying to understand them myself, from many perspectives. I, too, have hope that this could be a time of renewal. But I don't trust Calleman as a guide.
| atm wrote: | Mike had his 'nature trick'. Now its Fintan's turn to 'graph up'? [Hey, I just invented a new phrasal verb!]
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I made this exact point on a post back in May. The same critique used to argue in favour of natural cycles against continuing global warming can be can also be used to argue that what's going on with Earth Changes and global consciousness: it is quite possibly a cycle, and not a continuous climb toward evolution and progress.
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56345
If the current pace of change, in society, technology, and the human mind, along with the population explosion, are actually not completely new but tied to a cycle, then the Mayan "gift of prophecy" would not be a feat of strange magic, but the product of hundreds of thousands of years of hard won scientific observation. They knew it was coming (or at least, their ancestors did) because such changes are cyclical. The only remains of this knowledge are scattered around in world legends, because part of this cycle is the amnesia of the whole human race (the "Dark Age", or Kali Yuga).
And as I've also brought up on the forum before, John Major Jenkins, one of the most active independent writers on the Mayan calendar, has repeatedly exposed Calleman's intellectual dishonesty. I cringe every time Fintan says that Calleman is the world expert on the Mayan calendar, because that really is only Calleman's own PR. I don't feel Fintan is really got bullshit detector on full when it comes to Calleman.
To quote Jenkins:
| John Major Jenkins wrote: | Thank you for reaching out for what I can contribute to the recent goings on with Calleman and Don Alejandro. Carl, as you probably know, has been promoting his own end date, October 28, 2011. His reasoning behind it is self-serving and idiosyncratic, an attempt to corner his own trademarked niche in the Maya calendar discussion. He never seriously addressed the overwhelming support for December 21, 2012 as the 13-baktun cycle end date. All of this was debated and explored in our debate of late-2001. [ http://alignment2012.com/Debate2001.html ] His book was published the next year, and I guess our debate helped Carl to anticipate some damage control and to add some carefully placed caveats to his rap on 2011 vs 2012, to the extent that he at least acknowledged 2012 before presenting his own end date as the superior one. But other areas of factual correction were neglected.
And so matters were laid to rest. But in the ensuing years I noted that Carl was engaging in stealth sabotage and sneak attacks on my own work with the "galactic alignment" in era-2012. He often asserted my work was solely based in astronomy and was therefore “materialistic.” Of course, he neglected the metaphysical and spiritual teachings I've written about since my earliest books in the 1980s.
Most problematical, in asserting his "physical reality is bad" stance, Carl kind of backed himself into a corner, because the non-dual nature of the Mayan calendar teachings are fundamental — you know, the basic insight that the Mayan calendar weaves together the tapestry of spiritual and physical events and processes. So it seems that recently Carl has back peddled from that approach and now has found it effective to align himself with a traditional elder who, for whatever reason, "rejects" 2012.
http://alignment2012.com/eldersand2012-exchange.html |
I've also met and spoken personally with Geoff Stray, another independent author and expert on the Mayan Calendar, and I asked him about Calleman. He described him as a 'disruption' to 2012 conferences Geoff attended, and someone unwilling to enter into honest debates.
In a letter directly to Calleman:
| John Major Jenkins wrote: | Carl,
I have read and studied your work and although the model of alternating day and night cycles has congruency to it, I don't see how cherry picking historical events lends support for it. And I don't see how anchoring such a model to a date you decided upon yourself, rejecting in the process the timing established by the 2012 calendar's creators themselves, will lead us into the light. You are mainly involved in defining yourself as the leader in a system of your own creation, rather than a voice of the perennial truth that is trying to be reborn amidst all the noise and confusion of the modern world. Your system adds another choice to the menu of New Age delicacies, but as Daniel Pinchbeck quoted me in his forthcoming book, “These kinds of approaches are symptoms of modern confusion, rather than solutions to it.”
John
http://alignment2012.com/eldersand2012-exchange.html |
...and another...
| John Major Jenkins wrote: | Your evolving journey with the Mayan material is transparently clear, and sadly it seems to have gone toward the strategic packaging of various ideas to sweep up sales. But maybe there is a hidden process at work, so let me assume the best: your sermons on the underworld days and so on would work fine if you simply anchored into the correct correlation, December 21, 2012 = 4 Ahau = 13.0.0.0.0. That's my guiding diplomacy. But at this point, you — much like Arguelles [of Dreamspell] — cling at all costs to your idiosyncratic trademark inventions. You seem to believe that's what defines your unique contribution, but in so doing you have eclipsed the basic fundamentals. That's my issue — neglect of the fundamentals. And why you and Arguelles are cut from the same die on this is also pretty clear: during end-of-cycle dynamics, filters appear which serve to define certain levels of blockage as people transform on their way to the pure light of undifferentiated consciousness. Your system, like Arguelles's, contains several internal inconsistencies or blatant absurdities. The evolving consciousness of humanity at this time, as people open up to spiritual ideas, needs to encounter and then transcend the limit-barrier present in your system. Mainly, the problem is adherence to some form of duality, which your system has laid out very clearly — you know, reject astronomy, embrace only the spiritual. People still tend to self-identify with some form of duality, and so your system is perhaps a way station on the road to complete transcendence of duality. People from Western cultures that have been steeped in materialism will naturally swing to an extreme opposite identification with exclusive spiritualism, as they begin their spiritual awakening. But that's just another kind of limited duality paradigm.
http://alignment2012.com/eldersand2012-exchange.html |
Fintan has commented that the events of 9/11 have a deeper symbolic meaning: the fall of the two towers is the end of duality. I think that's a beautiful thought. But as Jenkins has argued above, Calleman's views are stuck in duality, which is not the way forward into the next age (if indeed we are on the cusp of one).
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| It's not 'market capitalism' when arrogant, obscenely overpaid bank clerks enjoy a government protected monopoly and total government protection from any losses they may incur as they turn the bank into a casino. That is not my definition of market capitalism. |
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"as long as you're prepared to take it, they are prepared to take it off you"
the only reason that things have got to the present state |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: What you CAN bank on... |
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The cyclical nature of human endeavor and it's relation to natural cycles is reasonable.
What has changed and continues to change is the Moore's law-like increase in information flow that we have to deal with. Our consciousness is expanding to deal with the influx and as it does so, we are opening up to new vistas of understanding and comprehension.
It is easy to "shut out" what invades and disturbs as that is a typical form of self-preservation. Receding into illusion or fantasy is another. The beautiful, if brutal, truth is that reality has us stuck at the front of the tidal wave of conscious awareness and we will bear the brunt of the impact with the evolving universe.
We do live in interesting times....
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toeg
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:07 am Post subject: NWO and Church always need money |
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There are several Black "Token" leaders around, President Obama being the most noteworthy.
Um, the whole ubber-dimensional, Mayan evolution, cultural and populous explosion could very well be, but this is pretty new stuff for me. I have seen the Cosmological description of the December 21, 2012. It sounds rather logical given the connections between calendars that span tens of thousands of years and cosmology that spans tens of thousands of light years.
Anyway, there are more people who are unhappy with the current system, but the trend is to put ALL the blame on Obama and the "liberals" who preceded him (without naming Bush or Cheney - in fact, those names are now almost relegated to the history books).
I remember the 60s and, you're right, they were wild. I ain't seeing the same enthusiasm as back then. People are upset on an individual basis, but not on a anti-libertarian type, rather an anti-liberal mode. The people are as at least as onery as before, if not much more. But the hatred is against those who have been antiwar and anti-bankster.
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