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 Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: Rand Paul Wins GOP Kentucky Primary |
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| Quote: | 7.45pm: Rand Paul wins: Now it's official – the Associated Press
has called the Kentucky Republican senate primary for Rand Paul.
This is the Tea Party's biggest triumph to date. |
| Quote: | | 8.14pm: Is the Tea Party taking control of the Republican party? That's what Donna Brazile is saying on CNN. |
| Quote: | "I did not vote for any incumbent. Any incumbent I want out. We need change, period," resident Rickie Eadens told ABC News.
Another voter, Brad Leix, said he voted for Paul because he is not a Washington insider.
"I'm just tired of the government insiders. You've got certain people who've been in office for so long. We need some outside views that aren't afraid to rock the boat a little bit. So, I think that people like him will be good for the country," Leix said.
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| Quote: | Democrats hope Tea Party favorite
Paul could hurt GOP in November
By Peter Hamby, CNN Political Producer - May 18, 2010
Bowling Green, Kentucky (CNN) -- Rand Paul's projected win in Kentucky's Republican Senate primary on Tuesday gives the Tea Party movement its biggest triumph of the 2010 election season.
But it could also be a win for Democrats who would prefer to run against Paul -- a libertarian-leaning ophthalmologist and son of former presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul of Texas -- instead of the other leading GOP contender and establishment favorite, Secretary of State Trey Grayson.
Democrats are confident that Paul's uncompromising small-government views -- he would like to shutter the departments of Education and Agriculture, for example -- will alienate moderate voters in a general election contest against the eventual Democratic nominee, either Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo or Attorney General Jack Conway. Their primary is considered too close to call as the race enters its final hours.
With a campaign message focused on national fiscal issues, Paul has been propelled to the front of the polls almost entirely on the strength of Tea Party activists and opponents of government spending. He's also been able to leverage his father's nationwide network of supporters -- a key fundraising base for the Republican.
But his rapid rise has resulted in nothing but headaches for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the most powerful Republican in Kentucky.
McConnell recruited Grayson into the race last year and lent his political operation to the cause, only to see his candidate falter against a political novice who talks fluently about marijuana policy and favors corduroy pants over suits and ties.
The scenario has GOP leaders fretting about their chances in Kentucky come November.
"Would Republicans be better off with Trey Grayson as their nominee? Yes, absolutely," said Jennifer Duffy, an analyst with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. "Paul hasn't been talking to voters outside the Tea Party movement, by and large. He is talking to his voters. But as of Wednesday, assuming he is the nominee, he has got to talk to the rest of the state."
Republicans worry that Paul's beliefs, particularly on foreign policy matters, will turn off not just moderates but also rank-and-file GOP voters. Paul opposes the Patriot Act, wants to scale back American military efforts abroad and once called for the closing of the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay.
Party apostasies like those compelled Republican heavy-hitters like former Vice President Dick Cheney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani to publicly back Grayson -- but the endorsements only seemed to boost Paul's outsider credentials.
Paul adviser Jesse Benton disputed claims that his candidate would be the weaker candidate in the general election.
"Rand is winning because he is the best candidate in this race," Benton said in an e-mail to CNN. "Kentuckians know that his message of balanced budgets and real spending reform are what our country truly needs to get back on track."
Paul wants an end to all federal earmarks, a stand that has endeared him to foes of government spending and won him support from conservative luminaries like Sen. Jim DeMint and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Kentucky, though, is a poor state that receives more money from the government than it pays in. It has long relied on entrenched congressional leaders like McConnell and Rep. Hal Rogers to send federal dollars back home to fund basic projects -- everything from roads to education to disaster relief.
Democrats in Kentucky, eager to define Paul quickly once he secures the nomination, say the issue of federal dollars will be a principal line of attack out of the gate once the general election table is set.
"We have been blessed with the seniority of our congressional delegation over the years, both Democrat and Republican," said House Speaker Greg Stumbo, a Democrat from eastern Kentucky. "What Dr. Paul talks about, he is out of touch with a lot of people in Kentucky."
Stumbo agreed with observers who say Paul will be an easier candidate to defeat than Grayson, but a Senate Democratic leadership aide in Washington cautioned that this year's anti-incumbent mood remains potent and unpredictable.
"There is lot of anger towards Washington and Paul can tap into that," the aide said. "I'm not convinced that it's a slam dunk for us."
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/18/kentucky.senate.preview/ |
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | The race marked the third time that tea party activists, a collection of disparate groups without a central political structure, have placed their stamp on Republican races.
Their votes at a Utah Republican convention helped deny a spot on the ballot to Sen. Bob Bennett, a conservative judged as not sufficiently so. And their backing helped propel one-time longshot Republican Marco Rubio to a lead in the pre-primary polls in Florida's Senate race, prompting Gov. Charlie Crist to quit the party and run as an independent.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7011322.html |
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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EPIC WIN:
Rand Paul speaks to a Tea Party crowd
in Louisville, Kentucky April 15th 2010.
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Given what Paul's father did back in 2008, surely no good can come out of Rand Paul personally, or is that too grand an assumption? It is interesting to see the Tea Party creating their footprints however. |
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Big Boss:
surely no good can come out of Rand Paul personally,
or is that too grand an assumption? |
Well, yeah.
I'm just reporting it as a significant political development.
But considering his father's track record.....
However, all that said, the bottom line is that the 'Tea Party'
is a convenient media stereotype, and in fact there are a lot
of pure independents populating the 'movement.'
And they are very well aware they are in battle with the
GOP establishment and their advantage is that it is their
support which is electing these politicians.
Which gives them a lot of leverage.
And they fully intend to use it relentlessly to keep
these guys honest, both before and after any election.
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Well it took less than 24 hours for the demonization
of Rand Paul by the "Liburul" media to kick in.
He's tryng to make a nuanced point.
Nuance doesn't make good ratings.
The usual media divide and conquer at work:
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| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: You were born where????? |
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[sarcon]Next, they will want to let jews into the country club.....[sarcoff]
The day that they extend the imposition of such legality everywhere, Big Brother will have won. I, personally, boycott institutions that demonstrate racist or discriminatory practices.
Dr. Paul seems like an intelligent, erudite and confident candidate. Hardly apt to become a politician so he will either be co-opted or assassinated (if he gets too close to power).
Sad.
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Eustace Mullins pointed out a while ago that nobody reaches this stage in American politics unless he has been 'approved' by the Master Criminals as being sufficiently in accord with the NWO program.
I have so far seen nothing to disprove Mullins' assertion.
(But I am always hopeful) |
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| Quote: | Libertarians On Paul’s Civil Rights Stance: ‘Very Reasonable’
Zachary Roth, TPM - Friday, May 21, 2010
Rand Paul’s apparent opposition to a key provision of the Civil Rights Act places him well within the mainstream of libertarian thought, according to several leading libertarians.
The GOP Senate candidate told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow last night that he would have tried to “modify” the law’s ban on racial discrimination by private businesses. That was an expansion of comments he made last month to a Louisville newspaper, in which he said that opposing the ban was “the hard part about believing in freedom.”
Paul’s stance is “very reasonable, and quite close to the Libertarian position,” a spokesman for the Libertarian Party told TPMmuckraker.
“If some private business discriminates we think that’s unfortunate, but we don’t think the government should get involved in banning it,” said the spokesman, Wes Benedict. “That’s just a negative that we have to tolerate in a free society.”
Walter Block, a libertarian professor of economics at Loyola University, and a senior fellow with the libertarian Ludwig Von Mises Institute, went further. “I think anyone who doesn’t believe that isn’t a libertarian,” he said, calling Paul’s comment “a very mainstream libertarianism.”......
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Hard to believe anyone could take this guy seriously. He is a pure product of Cult-Intel programming and propaganda. Oh well ...so is the rest of the country ...like attracts like I guess.
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| Quote: | Can Rand Paul revive conservative foreign policy?
DANIEL LARISON ON MAY 21, 2010
For the first time in memory, a libertarian, noninterventionist conservative has triumphed over the GOP's hawkish mainstream. That's something every American should celebrate.
Rand Paul’s victory on May 18 was a political triumph for a rare Republican candidate who supports a foreign policy of limits and restraint. Foreign policy did not decide the Republican Senate primary in Kentucky, which Rand won easily. But this is the first time in memory that a Republican champion of a non-interventionist, Jeffersonian approach to international alliances and foreign wars has won a significant victory. After a decade in which the Republican Party defined itself by its attachment to the Iraq war and to illegal detention, interrogation and surveillance policies, the resounding success of a strongly libertarian, antiwar candidate is an encouraging sign for the future of American conservatism.
That Kentucky Republicans -- angry over bailouts, government expansion and steep public debt -- were receptive to Paul’s libertarian, small-government message is no surprise. But the GOP establishment was shocked to learn that Paul’s foreign policy and national security positions were not deal-breakers.
In his 2008 presidential run, Paul’s father, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, encountered deep hostility from Republican regulars when he criticized the war in Iraq and opposed Washington’s hegemonic ambitions around the world.
Just two years ago, it seemed unthinkable that Paul’s admittedly radical constitutionalism and non-interventionist foreign policy could even gain a hearing in a Republican Party so strongly identified with the Bush administration. But betrayals of principle and failures of execution by that administration have made many on the right receptive to alternative views.
Paul’s GOP primary opponent, Kentucky secretary of state Trey Grayson, made every effort to use Paul’s foreign policy views against him. Nationally prominent hawks including former vice president Dick Cheney and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani attacked Paul and sought to discredit him as “weak” and “soft” on national security. Whatever Americans may think about Paul’s libertarian views on the size and scope of government, the hawks’ failure to derail his campaign with national security fearmongering is something all Americans should celebrate.
Paul is not as absolute as his father in criticizing U.S. power projection and anti-terrorist measures. But he remains a staunch opponent of the intrusive government powers typified by the PATRIOT Act and the invasion of Iraq, and he is generally skeptical of entangling and permanent alliances. On foreign policy and defense, Paul has said, “One of the enumerated powers is defense. So I believe that the defense of our country may be the primary enumerated power. Does that mean I believe in a blank check for the military? No. Does that mean I believe we have to have troops in 130 countries and 750 bases? No.” If elected, Paul would arguably be the first Senator since Robert Taft to represent the foreign policy tradition of the pre-war Old Right, while also projecting the antiwar spirit of the progressive Republican Sen. Robert LaFollette.
For most of the postwar period, Republican foreign policy thinking has been defined by a conservative internationalism that consistently advocates an overly ambitious American role in the world while pursuing those ambitions on the cheap. The Iraq War, especially its most disastrous phase between late 2003 and mid-2008, was the product of a policy that envisioned sweeping regional transformation without having made any of the preparations necessary to realize that vision. Paul abhors the human losses and expense of unnecessary and prolonged conflicts, which is why he opposed invading Iraq and objects to an open-ended commitment in Afghanistan. While he remains supportive of ongoing military operations, Paul will be a reliable voice of caution and restraint in the U.S. Senate when the next war fever seizes the political class and the media.
This makes Paul an extremely unusual Republican -- and he is all the more important for being so rare. As skeptical of the transformative power of government abroad as his Tea Party backers are of its power at home, Paul is a refreshing exception to the conventional Republican attitudes on national security and war that predominate in the Tea Party. While nothing can be taken for granted so early in the general election campaign, a Rasmussen poll shows Paul leading his Democratic opponent Jack Conway 59-34. A Paul victory in November would be a seismic event in Republican foreign policy circles -- and a very welcome one at that.
http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/203286/can-rand-paul-revive-conservative-foreign-policy |
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i must be getting old
it finally hit me
Rand Paul
what an odd first name
unless your a fan of Ayn Rand!
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Damn, those last 2 videos pretty much implicate the USA's controlling mechanism in commiserating with the 3rd Reich, esp the first video. They sure know how to project ugly images associated with whom they detest, versus images of whom they prefer. Undoubtedly, in certain circles like the Hollywood Film Industry, Jews had to take on Anglo names in order not to be discriminated against. Too bad non-whites can't just change colors in order to "assimilate" better.
I'm not going to defend anyone who tries to undermine any nation (one that at least is a decent nation, tho that "decency" may be debatable), but to ballpark a group is just wrong.
In the Americas, particularly the Northern Hemisphere, but also the Central and Southern countires, we have seen as much battle for "ownership" as any other continent (excluding Antarctica perhaps)... with the Northern continent in recent history less bloody than most. We do our fighting for territory in a much more "diplomatic" way, LOL!!
This nation called the USA is only 200+ years old as we know it constitutionally. That's actually a loooong time without any huge demographic and ideological change. It's a relatively short time for world history. We're just sooooo upset when some clusterfuck happens that we managed to succeed in pulling off on others previously.
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