Audio: CIA Fakes, 9/11 and the Holocaust

Fintan · Site Admin Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 5198

9/11 and the Holocaust

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DSL Mp3 Audio

http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel060831a.mp3

Dialup Mp3 Audio

http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel060831.mp3

maverick · Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 271

You Know I thought something was kind of funny..............when for weeks I was coming to the forum and reading posts............

Then all of the sudden..........I see posts concerning....The holocaust, Man on the Moon and then O.J. Simpson............HA..........

Even though I was suckered in...........I remember thinking.........Is this the same forum?????

Now that I think about it..........even UFO's was brought up...............

Continuity · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject:

maverik said:

FaxMam · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 139

Love the new audio, Fintan
wonderful

(still listening)

I've listened to all of your audios - but this is really one of the absolute best.... wish every American could listen to this.

stallion4 · Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 692

Just heard that Eric Hufschmid's half-sister is married to the son of Zionist billionaire Rupert Murdoch. Red flag?

Here's a radio show from today that discusses this connection:

Thu., August 31, 2006
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper06.html

Ormond · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject:

Kickass broadcast tonight, Fintan. Right on.

aspectus · Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 164

Finton, the point made regarding CFC's as being 'vital to 3rd world economies' rings hollow. Ammonia absorption is an alternate technology, not to mention Advanced Ammonia Absorption technology, running entirely off of the sun. I question who it serves to present only a small part of the story.

EDIT: and the same for oil. Providing oil is no a solution, it is a bandaid on a wound that will not heal, and creates more problems (long term) than it solves (short term).

As far as I'm concerned the entire issue of 9/11 is a red hearing, and time would be better spent working towards a better future, rather than chasing ghosts of the past. We will see no justice regarding 9//11, scapegoats will be blamed, but the money has already been made, and it will not be refunded.

EDIT2: or is 9/11 being used as distraction from the truth regarding the moon landings? Does anyone see what I'm saying?

Ormond · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: Convoluted Logic...or Blarney?

atm · Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 3129

Ormond

John Stewart is now on the payroll of CNN.

Comedy Central=CNN.

JSYK

atm

Damian Flynn · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 220 Location: Australia

I would have to agree that no one really cares about the Moon landings. It's not really worth discussing, since it was a psyop, wheather it was real or not. It was also nearly 40 years ago. When I first heard that the moon thing might have been a hoax I thought it would be impossible, because the commies would have pointed that out to us. I'm not too sure about that these days. When ever I read about interviews with Neil Armstrong, there's always some spooky journalist promoting the idea that Neil doesn't like to talk too much about the landings, 'cause he's so humble and such a nice guy. They might sometimes even throw in the word "inspirational". All that gay journalist jargon always makes me suspicious.
Now for the Jews. I have no doubt that many Jews suffered under the German government, but I've never seen any evidence of mass gassing. In fact, most evidence is to the contrary. If the Germans set up mass extermination facilities for the Jews, then there would be very few, so called "holocaust survivors". The Germans are not that incompetent. Our government loves to show films of piles of starved and diseased dead bodies found at the end of the war, but I've never seen the body of a Jew who was gassed. Some Hollywood movies even pretend that saving the Jews was the whole point of the war in Europe lol, or that D-day was the begining of the end for Hitler. What a joke. Germany was in chaos towards the end of the war, with it's cities in ruins, and the army along with a whole generation of German men were destroyed in the east. The average German soldier often endured long periods of short supply and food. Naturaly, prisoners and people considered to be enemies of the state would have a lower priority when it comes to the distribution of very limited resources. There was also too much demand on medical staff and supplies. I know this is a sensitive topic for some people, so if anyone knows a website which displays reasonable evidence of 6 million dead gassed Jews or how they were disposed of, please provide the link. I don't like being ignorant. I'm not saying that the holocaust didn't happen, I'm just saying that there's no hard evidence for the fantastic story of gas chambers where millions of people died. If the holocaust did happen as reported in the pop media, then there is a deliberate attempt to promote holocaust denialism by holding back evidence. I know the German public was psychologicaly prepared to commit mass murder so nothing would surprise me. I can't help but think that if the 6 million gassed Jews was a reality, then there should be enough evidence to silence the denialists. Also, an other thing which makes me suspicious about the official story is the word "denialist". Denialist, as opposed to what? A believer? They use the word "denialist" as if it could have negative meaning. As if all good people are faithful "believers". I would much rather be called a denialist than a believer. Believing is what started WW2 in the first place.

Ormond · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject:

DeepLogos · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject:

Great show, Fintan. Huffsmidt used to be able to push my "angry-button", to the point where I seriously considered sending a few painful questions to his inbox pointing out a few things... Listening to him on Stadtmiller's show I only feel sorry for the guy and everyone connected to him. I believe I read an email exchange between him and one of the more 'serious' 9/11 researchers out there a year or so ago, where he said: "..that if I want to argue with anyone about 9/11, all I have to do is talk to my brother..", so obviously there are som family issues there.

My brother doesn't agree with what I am saying, and I don't try to discuss with people who are not willing to do the necessary research in order to argue. Being a former military, currently psych student and what I term a "conservative surfer" who is content (sort of...) with life, he just don't want to listen to my arguments about Afghanistan, Iraq, psyhops, the desire for strategic and economic power and hegemony, etc... It's contitioning, I know, but he is perfectly willing to accept the possibility of a moon hoax and the existence of a secret government. Does anyone have a non-scientific explanation for this "phenomenon"? Is it the "fiction factor" vs. the "unbelievable-facts-I-think-I'll-deny-it-factor"? I understand it intellectually, but still....

Anyway... you painted a picture in very strong colours from Iraq, Fintan, pictures that I have been 'struggeling' with personally, because the implications of "believing" that scenario is so utterly unbelievable and inhumane (speaking from my emotional center). But I realize that it is in fact taking place, and that fuels my desire to uncover the grizzly facts about what's really taking place, and the agenda behind it. I really feel sorry for those soliders. I am a very emotional person, but I am gradually learnig to distinguish between the emotinal aspects and the mindset required to really see the facts for what they are. I owe much of this to my realtively recent study into 9/11.

As for global cooling, I also enjoyed the views expressed in that regard. I'm voting what is equivalent to the US green party here in Norway, and I am as such concerned about the environment, but I am very aware of the propaganda and the exagerations given that I am also a student of the history of this planet (from social/political aspects through anthropology to geology). The planet has been through numerous changes, many much more severe than what we are experienceing today as it pertains to pollution and the like. Misunderstand me correctly, there are certainly things we can do differently, especially as I think pollution to a greater extent affects the human body, resulting in histamine-related and respiratorial diseases.

The scare-propaganda of 'point of no return' (in the 80').... well, I don't think that is the case. Living in Norway, often visiting the mountains and breathing the fresh air there, I just can't believe that's the case. As a guest of yours said in a radio show some time back...what is global climate really? Some glaciers (in Norway) are getting bigger, some places are getting warmer... It's political, is it not...? (generally spoken).

I'll be looking forward to upcoming shows.

-DL-

Ormond · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject:

Continuity · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

Ormond said:

urbanspaceman · Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 311 Location: London , UK

Wonderful show Fintan. I really appreciate the perspective you bring.

I think what you pointed out really fits. Break for News has largely been a forum about Iraq, 9/11, and Big Energy, so to suddenly bring in the moon landings and the holocaust did seem out of place. When you noted that these were Hufschmid's favorite topics, it made sense to me that there is a conscious effort to equate 9/11 = Apollo = Holocaust. I've been on the fence for quite a while as to whether Hufschmid was just a bit crazy, but this certainly makes a stronger case that what he's doing is a trap for 9/11 skeptics.

I probably shouldn't get into the Moon Landing stuff, as it IS a distraction from 9/11 at this point in time, but it's just so damn tempting to put my 2 cents in (apologize if this belongs in another thread)

Like many people I saw the FOX show on the Moon conspiracy back in 2001. I was surprised by it, and went to the internet to check it out. This is one of the pages I came across back then.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

First off, the fact that FOX is pushing it should give one pause. Second, the webpage explains very well that the environment of the moon that has no air, little gravity, and a very reflective surface, contradict our common sense experience here on earth and can explain most "anamolies" in the photographic record.

Thirdly, I know my history of special effects, as I'm in the industry. I have a good handle on what it would take to fake the photographs and videos. Today it's achieveable with skill and computerized post production, back 35 years ago I'd say it would have been near impossible. There are many signs in the photos and videos from the Apollo mission that there is no air (eg. the dust doesn't move in clouds, and Astronauts sometimes walk deeply into the frame and there is no diffusion - a rock that looks like it's maybe 10 feet tall turns out to be massive when the astronauts walk up to it). So the only way I can imagine achieving this with 1960's special effects would be to create a massive studio (we're talking a mile wide) and take the air out. It would be easier to just go to the moon.

What I haven't done is check which footage and which photos belong to which missions. I'm still open to the possibility that earlier missions were faked, but I'm absolutely convinced some of the photographic record is genuine. That's my opinion. I really appreciate Ormonds comments that although NASA might have been involved in secret activities, faking the moon landing is probably not one of them.

What's relevant here is why are people being sucked into the moon landing conspiracy, and why now? Was the FOX show timed with 9/11, seeded to be brought out at a later date? Is the recent story in the news about missing Apollo tapes meant to fuel the conspiracy, much like the Pentagon Flight 77 crash photos?

Side note: someone had posted an article that the Lunar Lander had TOO SMALL an opening for the astronauts to get out! This instantly reminded me of the "the hole is too small for the plane to get through" at the Pentagon. I had to laugh. I'm starting to think this is a tactic. Throw out a measurement that's difficult for the amateur to confirm, hope that they parrot the information, and if it comes into the mainstream it can instantly be shot down as false, discrediting the person.

I'm glad Fintan implied that Dilan Avery could still be naive, just a dupe, and not necessisarily another CIA actor. I'm concerned that people in the forums here are too quick to label people a schill or a spook just because they hold a certain opinion. I for one still haven't concluded Avery is faking it. Either way, Loose Change IS a mess of disinformation that one has to think about very critically.