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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: 9/11: The Historical Background Reply with quote

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about Historical events which may shed light on 9/11.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Operation Northwoods Reply with quote

One of the central planks of the 9/11 Movement is the claim that the
Pentagon was ready to commit false flag terrorism acts in order to
justify an attack on Cuba.

Barrie Zwicker's got a press release just out on all this.
It's cute. He even manages to drag aliens into it:

False Flag Operations: Declassified Military Documents Show How
US Government Planned Terrorist Attacks Against its Own Citizens

Thu Sep 7, 3:00 AM ET

New York, NY (PRWEB) September 7th, 2006 – As reported by ABC News, stunning military documents codenamed "Operation Northwoods" were declassified in recent years and show how in 1962, the top US military leaders planned an operation to create terror attacks against its own cities and kill US citizens.

See: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

The documents state that through the fabrication of false evidence, the US would blame Cuba and gain public support for an unpopular war against Castro. They included developing a fake Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, the use of airplanes, and much more.

See PDF: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

In his newly published book "Towers of Deception – The Media Cover-Up of 9/11," Barrie Zwicker, writes about Operation Northwoods and many other such operations that the military and intelligence community refer to as "false flag operations." http://www.newsociety.com/bookid/3932

....According to a radio interview on Vancouver’s Coop radio, Zwicker believes that it is not impossible that such future events have already been planned in order to move the US towards Martial Law. http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics_radio/

The media critic has concluded that not unlike Germany in the 1930s, a relatively small right-wing extremist group of rulers want more and more power, and will gradually further eliminate civil liberties by manipulating people’s minds using more Orwellian language.

He says that if the media doesn’t start paying more attention, there will be increased oppression of opposition that will likely move America, and perhaps other Western countries, towards a gradual further elimination of civil liberties. He calls this the path towards a new fascism, one controlled by a small group of ruling elites who perpetuate war after war, such as a never-ending "war on terror," to maintain their power and control.

Dr. Steven Greer has met and spoken to many intelligence, military, government and corporate whistleblowers who explain that to sustain and expand their existence in their current form, the military, industrial, intelligence, laboratory complex need a constant influx of new enemies.

Greer was told that conflicts would evolve "from Cold War, to Rogue Nations, to Global Terrorism, to the ultimate trump card: A hoaxed threat from space." http://www.disclosureproject.org/cosmicdeception.htm


Note the references to Dr. Stephen Greer, Exopolitics and the Disclosure Project.
Greer and both sites are drenched in Alien material. Like I say, cute. Wink

But getting back to Operation Northwoods, it has been discussed here on
the Forum:

Deep Logos: But what if the publising (1998) by the National Security Archive of this very document (amongst 1500 other pages), in a joint venture with CNN, was an attempt to throw an already in the making (by intelligence) movement into a conspiracy of disinfo, believing, based on this document, that it was only a fraction of the US government that was behind the 911 operation, rendering the possibility of multi-agency (international) involvment a less than likely option.


Which is a good point.

By the way, Carol Valentine says the Northwoods documents could be planted fakes:
But, not unexpectedly, she lowers her cred by implicating Mossad.

Overall, Northwoods serves well to indicate the kind of ruthless mindset
which exists among those planning covert military operations.

But it's way dubious as a proof of US Military involvement in 9/11. For starters,
it tends to imply that similar documents might exist re 9/11, and that
some kind of official Pentagon program and staff were involved.

That is clearly nuts. And anyone steered into suggesting this as a result
of the Northwoods documents would discredit themselves and the
9/11 Movement.

Handle with care, I think.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: The importance of history to undermining the 9/11 myth Reply with quote

I'd also like to point to this relevant topic, started by mccauleym,
which shows we need well argued context as much, or more than physical evidence:
After reading DL's and Gary's generous contributions in the 9/11 3i Analysis thread, Top Reasons Indicating an Inside Job, I'm beginning to think about this whole matter differently.

I no longer feel that searching for a physical "smoking gun" is going to be very fruitful. The building collapses/explosions/demolitions, frankly, are complicated, and most of the physics and engineering is far outside our expertise, not to mention Joe Layman's expertise. Even if it is "obvious" that the building collapses weren't spontaneous, but had to have been "controlled" with explosives or whatnot, there doesn't seem to be a precise smoking gun -- one that can't be plausibly explained away. And when Joe Layman hears that NIST engineers say this happened and tinfoil-hat self-appointed experts say this, it's going to be pretty easy to go back to believing the official story. "What do I know about the physics of building collapses? I'll leave it to the experts." Plus, obviousness is subjective; to many/most Americans, it's perfectly "obvious" that the fuel-filled planes hit the buildings, and the buildings collapsed. Nothing mysterious about that. And the same could be said for most other physical aspects of 9/11, including the cell phone calls, the "alive" hijackers, and many more. Read 911Myths.com from Joe Layman's perspective and you'll see what I mean.

But I'm greatly encouraged by reading, for example, this post. Gulf of Tonkin is good, and rarely discussed in connection with 9/11.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Historical context Reply with quote



The Americans learned Imperialism from the best.

And America wanted to be equal.

They started small:

But their message was clear and simple:

And they immediately went about attempting to acquire Canada.

They failed.

However, they still opened plenty of new markets to the West:

Of course, there were people already living there. No matter. They were considered 'foreigners' and they were crushed.

Alas, the military wasn't just used on foreigners. Domestic opposition was also crushed.

All that military action was expensive, however, so this guy put together the financial package to pay for it all:

Hamilton's idea was to bind the individual states to the more powerful federal government through debt to foreign banks. It worked.

At around this time, America went on its first overseas adventure - against muslims who threatened their commercial interests.

But unlike almost all the Presidents before and after him, Thomas Jefferson ultimately preferred shopping to military adventurism. The effect was the same though. More debt and new markets:

But it was quickly back to military adventurism in 1812, when the Americans again invaded Canada.

And again they failed.

During this time, what developed in America were two competing economic systems, both rooted in debt capitalism.

Wage slavery:

and actual slavery:

The competition between the two came to a head several times over the issue of opening new markets. One sticky point was Texas - where actual slavery was preferred.

Technically, however, Texas still belonged to Mexico. Of course that didn't stop Americans from annexing it in 1845.

Mexico was mad. They saw the Americans as invaders.

Mexicans defended their land from invading Americans. Some Americans were killed. This was called The Thornton Affair.

President Polk insisted "American blood has been shed on American soil." (It hadn't.)

A young Abraham Lincoln drafted in response The Spot Resolution which would have required the President to prove the contested spot was actually on American soil. (It wasn't.)

No matter. War was declared on Mexico and before long, the Americans marched into Mexico City.

And as a result, the Americans opened some new markets:

Just in time, too, because apparently a lot of gold was found the next year.

Eventually, in the fight to open new markets, the two economic systems could no longer co-exist. The answer? War.

Wage slavery won, and Sherman burned the South for good measure:

For the next several years, the Americans busied themselves with market consolidation, and liquidation of the previous residents.

By the end of the 19th century, America was starting to look like this:

And mammon was the American king:

Just as Americans were running out of new 'domestic' markets to open, Alfred Thayer Mahan wrote his watershed book The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, 1660-1783 where he claimed that a nation's economic power has everything to do with its Navy's ability to force open new markets overseas.

It was music to the ears of these people:

Soon, conveniently, the USS Maine sailed into Havana harbor and promptly exploded (from the inside).

President McKinley ordered a court investigation which concluded: The court has been unable to obtain evidence fixing the responsibility for the destruction of the Maine upon any person or persons.

Teddy Roosevelt quipped that the "white-livered President McKinley has no more backbone than a chocolate eclaire.

And then the newspapers sold a war anyway:

Good thing, too. Look at all the new markets which were opened up:

McKinley was then assassinated, the American left was blamed, and Teddy Roosevelt became President.

And, after sponsering a revolution in Columbia-owned Panama, he promptly set about building a massive canal there:

Of course, all this economic militarism cost a lot of money. Somebody had to pay for it. During all this time, the American market suffered periodic economic destablizations. For example, there was:

the Panic of 1819
the Panic of 1837
the Panic of 1857
the Panic of 1873
the Panic of 1884
the Panic of 1890
the Panic of 1893
the Panic of 1896
the Panic of 1901
the Panic of 1907
the Panic of 1910-1911

Essentially, as the Empire absorbed more and more markets, common people kept losing their shirts:

Somehow, though, the rich still had the money to finance every new expansion of the market.

A "solution" finally came in the formation of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

Not everyone was happy about it. Congressman Charles August Lindburgh (father of the future pilot) warned against it:

"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately, but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill."

But the President signed it anyway:

With the American military-commercial machine now completely owned by private banks, the American Empire could finally afford to take on the vast and profitable European market by destabilizing its competition, the old-world Empires.

Of course, they also needed an excuse to drag the American people to what in their narrow perspective was a 'foreign' war.

Conveniently, American newspapers got ahold of the Zimmerman Telegram, a secret communique in which Germany attempted to recruit Mexico to fight against the U.S.

And that was that. The war was on for America:

Luckily, the U.S. Navy had the most modern battleships in the world:

This is, of course, thanks to a young Franklin Roosevelt, then Secretary of the Navy:

The ensuing war effectively ended the competing commercial empires of Germany, Russia, and Austria/Hungary, while simultaneously devastating the competing commercial empires of Britain and France.

No wonder they called it "The Great War".

Oh sure. There were people who tried to say "NO", but by that point, it was simply impossible to stop the convergence of influence and interests.

And so, Woodrow Wilson initiated the first global market experiment, The League of Nations, and everything was hunky dory again until... whoops. Another panic!

Could this be the 'day of reckoning' Lindburgh Sr. warned about?

A whole army of World War I veterans thought so. They marched on Washington demanding immediate payment of their service bonuses:

They even occupied Washington D.C. itself:

But eventually, they too were crushed:

They were driven from the city by the U.S. Army, which was commanded by two officers who would soon become world-famous, Douglas MacArthur and Dwight Eisenhower:

A year later, F.D.R. swept into power, a President-for-life:

Always looking for new markets, American banker Imperialists rebuilt Europe and financed proxy Empires. They created Franco:

and Hitler:

In 1937, the Imperialist Japanese army raped and destroyed Nanking, China:

Eighty percent of Imperial Japanese oil at that time was imported from the United States.

Just in case the proxy empires wouldn't remain profitable, however, the Americans began building the Pentagon on September 11, 1941.

Meanwhile, American-proxy Hitler pushed deep into the territory of the American-allied USSR:

And then in December of 1941, the American-allied Soviets pushed back:

So, another excuse was needed to drag the myopic American people to war. Franklin D. Roosevelt arranged with the Imperialist Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor.

The Japanese conveniently failed to hit the submarine base, the massive fuel storage tanks, or any aircraft carriers (which conveniently weren't there that day).

Only three ships were permanently lost to the U.S. Navy in the attack. These were the battleships Arizona, Oklahoma, and the Utah - all of which were out-dated WWI era ships which F.D.Roosevelt had launched.

Nevertheless, plenty of material was salvaged from them, including the two aft main turrets from Arizona, and the Pacific fleet was back up and running in no time.

Then, the Americans doublecrossed Imperial Japan and completely destroyed them in a protracted naval and air battle in the Pacific.

With Japan pinned by a couple years of intense fighting, the Americans finally entered Europe:

Where they promptly lost the race for Berlin. Oops:

No matter. The Americans still had an Ace up their sleeve:

And with that big KABOOM, the American Military Commercial Empire effectively cornered the world market.

Death Toll 1770-1945 = incalculable.

After that, things started to get really interesting...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow - bravo, backandtotheleft! Brilliant!

I'm going to save this to HD, and print it to hand out to some ppl, who I think would benefit from an arm's-length-view of modern history, and how it has shaped the situation in which we find ourselves today.

I was aware of the majority of the individual incidents portrayed, but seeing them layed out like that was invaluable. Thanks again, for an eye-opening, educational job well done!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Great post. Did you compose that text and assemble those graphics?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent montage backandtotheleft! Informative, consise and tragically real with a dash of dark humor. Have you ever/ Do you work as a documentary film producer? The graphics are great...

Hope to see more presentations of this kind. (post WWII?)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: The Bush Family 12/7-9/11 Circuit Reply with quote

Wonderful - not a lot of activity here yet, but we've got a very good start thanks to Backandtotheleft. Who could step up here and deny these REPEATED manipulations one by one by one? "well, maybe it was just a coincidence," "they had it coming," "it was humanitarian," "no one could imagine flying a plane into the USS Maine" How much of this can the perpetual good guy gettin' picked on myth stand?

I was a history major in College - so I'll be here a bit. Here's my first and favorite contribution: Pearl Harbor "proven" not only allowed but provoked:
I Put proven in quotes cos it's verified by one document, vouched for by Robert Stinnett, a WWII subordinate and semi-official biographer for GHW Bush, in his 1999 book Day of Deceit - oddly, after 9/11 he changed his argument, no longer standing by his core evidence, the McCollum memo that showed the provocation plan.

The Elements of the Chart:
President (FD) Roosevelt, Secretary of War Henry Stimson, and possibly Roosevelt's adviser and ambassador W. Averell Harriman (among others) acted on the Japan provocation plan put forth by Lt. Commander Arthur McCollum at the Office of Naval Intelligence. The eight-point plan solidified existing intentions to bring down the Pearl Harbor attack and give the US an excuse to officially enter the Second World War on the side of the British and the Soviets. In addition to fighting the Nazis and their Japanese allies, the attack allowed the creation of an enduring "military-industrial complex" among its other profound transformationsof American society and economy with effects up to the present time.

War Secretary Stimson meanwhile was a friend of the Bush family, originally headed by Samuel Bush, a muscleman who helped make sure weapons were shipped right for the World War I effort, a sort of proto-military-industrial complex/Merchants of Death kind of guy. By 1940 the family was headed by Samuel's son Prescott, a businessman and senator who maintained ties with Stimson. Bush was also a business partner in Averell Harriman's investment banking firm, involved along with Harriman's brother in the subsidiary Union Banking Corp. that was helping finance the Nazi war machine via Fritz Thyssen until forcibly shut down in late 1942.

Among those young Americans by then called to service in the War effort unleashed by 12/7 was Prescott's son George H.W. Bush (named after Prescott's father-in-law and Harriman-related business partner George Herbert Walker). Another young recruit, Robert Stinnett, served together with Bush in the same aerial reconnaissance unit on the USS San Jacinto. Whatever connections they formed were nurtured with Stinnett's authoring of "George Bush, his WWII Years" in 1990, used as a GOP fundraiser for Bush's re-election campaign in 1992. (hence the link from Stinnett to Bush as president). Stinnett dropped hints about his coming Pearl Harbor thesis in this paen, and after visiting Bush in the oval office, his investigation (coincidentally?) skyrocketed and formed into the groundbreaking Dec. 7 1999 Day of Deceit, which for the first time cited McCollum's plan and in my opinion finally gutted the official story, a victory he started rehashing every December 7 with a reminder article - they provoked and allowed what could well be called a "catastrophic and catalyzing event."

Ironically, Day of Deceit was first published just as the Project for the New American Century was getting serious with its military ambitions, in September 2000 prominently noting the utility of a "new Pearl Harbor," just months after Stinnett had re-defined the term to mean a provoked event designed to transform american opinion. This group is dominated by former Bush sr functionaries (Cheney et al, the hawk "renegades" we're told) and was forming the advisory basis for the presidency of Bush's son. Then they oversaw the most spectacularly acute failure of defense in American history - a new Pearl Harbor in spades - after alleged intense provocations in Afghanistan in mid-2001. Will a McCollum memo from January 2001 surface one day?

A curious and perhaps telling footnote to all this is Stinnett's about-face on Pearl Harbor in the period after 9/11. Perhaps it's simply a coincidence, but as questions over what Bush knew began to arise in 2002, Stinnett's argument and questions changed significantly, no longer mentioning the McCollum memo or provocation. There seems to be no problem with the solidity of his case, so why the back-off? Did someone get a pang of "degrees of separation anxiety?" If this sound silly to you, just take another look at that circuit board above and think about it. It's gotta mean something.

Perhaps the crafting of an ephemeral, controllable, limited-time-only official conspiracy theory? In what context could it possibly make sense to imply that they provoked and allowed the attack? Are they pleading to a lesser crime since they know they physically did it themselves? Is the New Day of Deceit designed to cover for Shadow 9/11 by providing a more logical explanation for the attack's success that still keeps external terrorists center stage?

(Original post has links to deeper sub-posts, most of which are done and up) http://12-7-9-11.blogspot.com/2006/11/bush-family-127-911-circuit_24.html

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