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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:43 am    Post subject: Fake Antiwar Army Ranger Exposed Reply with quote

Almost predictable,
so I guess the big question is......
......Cointelpro -or just some
dumb kid on the make?


At first, Jessie MacBeth looked good.....

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Army Ranger's Testimony: war crimes in Iraq
were ordered from higher up the chain of command.


by Randy Rowland

May 21, 2006
peacefilms.org

Army Ranger's Jessie Macbeth's testimony shows war crimes were ordered from higher up the chain of command, and were common...



There is a current story in the US press about a squad of Marines that are being investigated for "war crimes" after they murdered a whole Iraqi family one night a few months back. US officials are approaching this story as if this wasn't standard procedure, and are focusing on holding the individual Marines accountable.

Jessie Macbeth blows the lid off that story. Macbeth is a former US Army Ranger, who served in Iraq for 16 months before being wounded and ultimately discharged. His squad did night raids, using the same techniques the Marines are accused of, 4 or 5 times a night for many months. Macbeth, who is now a member of "Iraq Veterans Against the War," was interviewed for the public access TV show "Indymedia Presents." His story is available here: http://www.peacefilms.org.

In this interview Jessie describes killing children to make the parents talk. He describes one episode where his squad responded to the much-reported incident in Falluja where 4 US mercenaries were killed and hung from a bridge. Shortly after Iraqis killed the mercenaries, according to Macbeth, his squad of Rangers gunned down Iraqis praying inside a mosque on a holy day, then hung some of the bodies from rafters, and defaced the mosque with graffiti. Macbeth's hand held the smoking gun, and his testimony in this interview shows clearly that the Marines who are now in trouble for very similar actions are not the exception to US tactics in Iraq, but represent only one in many incidents of war crimes.

During the US invasion and occupation of Viet Nam, testimony of returning soldiers helped turn the tide of public opinion. The gory details of US misbehavior in Viet Nam did not fit the American self image and the more people learned about what was really going on over there, the less they supported the war effort. Jessie Macbeth's story has the same compelling quality to alert the American people and turn the tide of public opinion.

Iraq Veterans Against the War is an organization of veterans opposed to the war, who, like Vietnam Vets Against the War before them, have bitter lessons--paid for in blood--to share with the public. Their website is: www.ivaw.net

The peacefilms.org website was set up especially to feature the interview with Jessie Macbeth. Feel free to link to the peacefilms.org site. Go to the "Do Something" page and click, "Have A Website?": www.peacefilms.org

"Indymedia Presents" is a weekly public access TV show produced by PepperSpray Productions for the Seattle Indymedia Center. The show is aired on 11 stations in cities ranging from Tucson, AZ to Fort Wayne, IN. The interview with Jessie Macbeth was originally included on show #193. PepperSpray Productions is an activist video collective in Seattle, WA. Their website is: www.peppersprayproductions.org

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=65444&forum=17


But not for long.....

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Out, Damned Spot!
Posted by: Dale Franks on Monday, May 22, 2006

Apparently, someone over at Just Citizens decided to do a little citizen journalism, and contacted the Army about "Special Forces Ranger" Jesse MacBeth.

Today, the Army ran a check on Mr. MacBeth’s credentials. It turns out, not surprisingly to anybody with half a mind, that Mr. MacBeth has NO Army service record. Anywhere. Period. This is a direct quote given to me by Army spokesman John Boyce:

“Initial research by the U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg shows no Soldier with the name of Jesse Macbeth having ever been assigned to the Special Forces or the Army Rangers — which are, in fact, two separate disciplines. This appears to be some sort of hoax. No Soldier by that name at Fort Lewis to our knowledge, in the past, either. Of course, the line about "go into the Army or go to jail" is vintage TV script not heard since the 1960s. There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the Soldier's uniform — a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef. Of course, the allegations of war crimes are vague, as are the awards the Soldier allegedly received.”

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3919

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Jesse MacBeth: an interesting case study
Posted by: McQ on Tuesday, May 23, 2006

We're watching the Jesse (or Jessie) MacBeth thing unfold and unravel. Actually it is an interesting case study. Apparently, until this video was released, MacBeth had a nice little side career going for him under the radar of national attention. A darling of the anti-war left, he was praised in various venues for his conscience, for speaking 'truth to power', for standing up and being counted.

Of course, as has been amply shown, the man is a complete and utter fraud.

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3922

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Ranger” MacBeth’s Criminal Background

Case Number: J-0502-CR-20040075 Case Category: Criminal Case Title: ST OF AZ VS JESSE ADAM MACBETH

Court: Pima Justice Judge: DEWEY L BRYCE Filing Date: 03/23/2004 Disposition Date: 06/17/2004

Party Name: JESSE ADAM MACBETH Party Type: D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT Date of Birth: 03/21/1984

Citation: CNONE Count 1: FALSE REPORTING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT Disposition Date: 06/17/2004 Disposition: COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY

Count 2: FRAUDULENT USE OF CREDIT CARD Disposition Date: 06/17/2004 Disposition: BOUND OVER TO SUPERIOR COURT

http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/james-macbeths-damned-spots-credit-card-fraud/

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IVAW Statement on MacBeth Video

Iraq Veterans Against the War recently learned of a video interview with Jesse MacBeth that directs viewers to IVAW’s website and phone number. IVAW was not made aware of the creation of this video program and our input on it was never sought by its producers. Jesse MacBeth is not a spokesperson for IVAW and any claims made by MacBeth about his service have not been verified. We are currently investigating these claims and will have a full statement pending its resolution.

http://www.ivaw.net/
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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......Cointelpro -or just some
dumb kid on the make?


(I can't help wondering if the 'someone' exposing MacBeth was named MacDuff.....lol) Seriously though, we don't know the name of the 'citizen journalist' who exposed MacBeth.

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Out, Damned Spot!
Posted by: Dale Franks on Monday, May 22, 2006

Apparently, someone over at Just Citizens decided to do a little citizen journalism, and contacted the Army about "Special Forces Ranger" Jesse MacBeth.


Mr. Anonymous? "Apparantly" called the Army? A little bit late, too. Could be legitimate journalism, and certainly MacBeth's story should have been checked before making him the 'darling' of the anti-war movement. The timing and anonymity of the exposer is 'interesting', though with bullet-proof plausable deniability. You know, them dumb anti-war hippies, they ain't too professional. (I'm being sarcastic).

We see these flash in the pan stories routinely. Freelance hustler lies about being a war veteran, hustler gains 15 minutes of fame....hustler is exposed as liar-- leaving egg on the face of the 'movement'. Discredited hustler is dumped and forgotten, returning to the obscurity from which he came.....

What I would like to see, when this happens, is further follow-up on the guy's background, in the interest of answering the above question. We know nothing more of his past than that he wasn't a soldier.

I was seven years old when I watched Lee Harvey Oswald murdered on live television in Dallas. But it was years before Oswald's background in Military Intelligence, trained at Guantanimo, taught Russian on that military base, became available to the general public. The guy had been travelling all over the world with no visible means of support, supposedly discharged. Many people still think of him as the 'screwed up loner/loser' as he was portrayed in 1963. Now we know that Oswald had quite a whirlwind past and career for a 23 year old 'loser'. His life and assoiciations were'nt merely 'atypical', it was downright bizzarre. The only reason any of that ever came to light was due to the scope of the one historical act he's associated with.
But there's no journalistic plumb to dig further into the past of a flash in the pan like MacBeth.

Anytime one of these lilttle guys implodes, someone should investigate further, into his/her associations before. There may be nothing there....there's a whole sub culture of con artists who've always pretended to be veterans for the personal scam value....but in a case like this in which a 'useful idiot' just happens to produce such great counterintelligence value, it bears further investigation.

I'd also like to know about 'Deepthroat' over at Just Citizens, who "apparently" called the Army and exposed MacBeth? Maybe it was just good citizen journalism, (though a bit after the fact). But we are not told who Mr. Anonymous is. What about his military background (if any) and associations? And what about Just Citizens Org?

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wanted to post this:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2006/05/stop_the_lies.html

absolutely spot on.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven,

That url you posted just blew my mind. I really didn't see that coming... Now that one really does have 'psyops' written all over it! I'm speechless.

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by Jesse Macbeth
Iraq War Veterans Against Google
Breakfast Shift Associate, Wendys of Tacoma


Thus spinning the mind away from the very real and serious matter of US atrocities in Iraq, and into the land of 'pseudologika fantastika'.

What do you make of all this? I'm spent....

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: JUST CITIZENS. Not your Father's COINTEL PRO Reply with quote

Okay, here's the JUST CITIZENS blog piece on exposing MacBeth

http://justcitizens.blogspot.com/2006/05/nimrod-of-week.html

And here' are the creators of JUST CITIZENS. Seems there are just two 'someones' over there.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/23093851
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Brad Staggs

* Age: 39
* Gender: male
* Astrological Sign: Pisces
* Zodiac Year: Sheep
* Industry: Communications / Media
* Occupation: Video Editor
* Location: Arlington : Virginia : United States

Quote:
Nicki

* Gender: female
* Industry: Communications / Media
* Occupation: Writer

About Me

I'm an Army veteran and a Featured writer for both keepandbeararms.com and ArmedFemalesofAmerica.com and a former contributing editor to the NRA's Women's Outlook. I'm also news director for KeepAndBearArms.com. Additionally, I am a contributing editor to Concealed Carry Magazine, and I work in the Public Affairs section of the Virginia Army National Guard's 29th Infantry Division.


Allright, we'd expect such bloggers to make that call to US Army Rangers records division to verify MacBeth's claim to fame, and that's fair enough.

So moving on, my next inquiry is who were the folks over at Socialist Alternative Org. who originally printed MacBeth's tale without giving it the blarney test? Those stupid commie hippies.......(again speaking w/sarcasm--I don't think they're that dumb at all.).
And notice that they are still running the original interview with MacBeth with no disclaimer......Oh, I guess their editor 'spaced it, man'.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

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How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting.


After a look at the url stevensnell provided above, it's clear that MacDuff is as much a 'street fighter' as suburban Vanilla Ice or musician 'Prince'.
Seems he really was in the Rangers allright. Not the US Army Rangers, but the 'Power Rangers'. I just confirmed this with a call to X-Men HQ, and they told me that their database shows his rank as "Space Cadet, 1st class". Just kidding---we still don't know anything about this guy.
Maybe we should be asking which Universities he's attended, and what courses did he take. (my money is on 'Communications ' Media', with a minor in Political Theater.)
And I'm getting the impression that working in today's Psyops is a helluva a lotta fun........It's not your Father's COINTEL PRO!

And speaking of COINTEL PRO, I found that http://www.peacefilms.org./
has "apparantly" closed their web site.
At least today, all I get is a image of the globe, no text, no links, no nuthin'.

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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely hysterical!
Still rolling on the floor.... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reading the Fine Print Reply with quote

More from Jesse MacBeth: an interesting case study link on Fintan's post. http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3922

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This was a guy who the anti-war left wanted to believe so badly that they simply accepted out of hand what he claimed.


But isn't that called 'shooting yourself in the foot?'. I mean, wouldn't that be stupid? Look who's getting the mileage out of this story....certainly not the anti-war movement.
The quote above reads like the typical "because lefties are desperate and dumb" spin worthy of Michael Savage.

And who were these 'lefties' who made this stupid error? Not the IVAW...they weren't consulted.
The possible target of this discrediting op may be Iraq Veterans Against the War , since as far as I can tell, they had nothing to do with the video, and were not the source of the original interview. All the buzz seems to have come from various dubious 'lefty' parties.

And the whistle was blown by "apparently someone" of the two person blog called JUST CITIZENS, who I find are based in Arlington, Virginia--hometown of the CIA. Further, JUST CITIZENS isn't a 'lefty' blog, doesn't pretend to be. Though JUST CITIZENS creators do happen to say that they are in the Communications / Media industry, and one of them posts his profession as Video editor.

But I want to focus for a moment on this question of 'the lefties' who put out this story and video....without doing the simple homework.

Logically, what did the 'Lefties' gain by propping up a phoney spokesman who was so easily exposed as a fraud? Who's getting the last laugh out of this little Dog and Pony show?

My Opinion:

Again, the real target of the smear seems to be IVAW, who had nothing to do with it, and weren't informed what was being put out in their name. How could the real patsy in this debacle, Iraq Veterans Against the War , check out a fake that they weren't even aware of at the time other parties were releasing interviews and a video? It's my guess MacDuff didn't go near any real Iraqi veteran organizations, as they would have known he was fake very quickly.
And the video producers who used the IVAW name and phone number to without their knowlege or permission, have folded up their side show tent and disappeared.

One more observation. Why does 'anti-war' always tag anyone suspicious of US Occupaton of Iraq as automatically "Left"?

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

News article, written in 2003, that contradicts stories stating that Jesse MacBeth didn't serve in Iraq as an Army Ranger:

From the Eastern Arizona Courier:
    Soldier struggles with memories of Iraqi war
    Nov. 3, 2003


    The war in Iraq was officially called to an end a few months ago, but according to Private First Class Jesse MacBeth, 19, of Pima, the turmoil has just begun.

    MacBeth, a ranger in the U.S. Army, returned to the states two-and-a-half months ago after sustaining an injury in his back. He spent 14 months serving in the Middle East—first in Afghanistan and then in Baghdad.

    Formerly from Tucson, MacBeth now resides in Pima, where he has family, friends and a fiancé. He said that small-town life is the perfect remedy for the various traumas that he suffered during his service in the Middle East.

    “Loud noises startle me,” he said. “Its nice and quiet here. I live in a trailer out in the middle of nowhere.” According to MacBeth, his reaction to loud noise stems from the horrible experiences that he had while in Iraq. After returning to Ft. Benning in Georgia, he was officially diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and received both medication and counseling to help him adjust to a non-combative environment.

    “The Iraqis would stand in a crowd and shoot at us. We had to kill civilians to get to them because we were ordered to shoot anything that came at us,” he said. “I keep having nightmares about it.”

    MacBeth and others in the 10-man unit in which he served were some of the first soldiers in Baghdad. He said his unit had a special duty to perform. “We had to clear the loyalists from the tunnels under the city. Some were from the Republican Guard.”

    MacBeth was shot in the back by an M-16 rifle while in a tunnel. He remembers that he had to continue fighting after a Canadian nurse quickly stitched up his wounds. “They would sew you up and you’d have to just keep on going,” he said. MacBeth is haunted daily by the memories of his service in Iraq. “We didn’t think about what was going on while we were there,” he said, “but it’s coming back in dreams. I don’t like to remember it.” He recalls watching his buddies die, which he said is nearly unbearable for him to think about at times. “I lost good friends that I trained with,” he said. “I gave some dog tags to family members personally.”

    For MacBeth, one of the most important duties during the war was protecting those he served with. He said that after the traumas U.S. soldiers faced daily, loyalty became their main area of concentration. “It wasn’t for the glory,” he said. “We fought to protect each other.”

    He remembers the conditions that he and fellow soldiers faced in Iraq with much trepidation. “There was so much stress and pressure there,” he said. “I saw grown men that I looked up to crying.” MacBeth said that often American soldiers went for days without sleeping or eating due to the stress and paranoia brought on by the dangerous environment. “We never knew where the gunfire was coming from,” he said, “and we were losing battles. A lot of my friends wanted to kill themselves over there.”

    According to MacBeth, the attitude displayed by Iraqi civilians further dampened the U.S. soldier’s spirits. “Some people were grateful that we were over there, and that helped,” he said. “But that was only a handful of people. Most of them hated us.” The vehemence displayed by the Iraqi people is not completely unjustified, he said. “We wouldn’t like it either if soldiers came into our homes with weapons and forced us to live a certain way.”

    MacBeth joined the army when he was 17 with hopes of defending America’s security. He said that he felt a strong sense of duty and a desire to serve during his days of military training. After his experiences in Iraq, he said his feelings have changed. “All of the values like honor, pride and integrity don’t mean anything in war,” he said. “There’s nothing honorable about killing kids. I did nothing heroic.”

    Though he has been scarred by the desolation of war, MacBeth said he wants to start a new life. He plans on marrying soon and wants to find work and buy a home here in the valley. Counseling sessions to battle his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder are still on his agenda and he is undergoing surgeries to remove shrapnel from his back. In November, he’ll attend a hearing for his medical discharge from the military.

    The battle in Iraq is behind him, but MacBeth said he will struggle with his memories of war for a lifetime.

The article can be found at this link.

So according to the Eastern Arizona Courier news story, Jesse MacBeth was an Army Ranger who served in the Iraq war.

FYI, I discovered this updated information after reading this blog:
http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/trackbacks/20349/

Once there, scroll down to update #2.


BTW, here's a link I found to the Jesse MacBeth video posted on 'Google Video' for anyone who hasn't seen it yet:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5598930054847637875&q=Jesse+MacBeth


And just to clarify, I haven't decided whether or not I believe the MacBeth video is a hoax.

Any opinions about the Eastern Arizona Courier story? Anyone have more info that supports MacBeth's story?
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First thing about this Eastern Arizona Courier article is that it was publishished in November 2003. MacBeth was 'exposed' by someone at 'JUST CITIZENS'
(a blogger), this week, May 2006. I mean, do the math.

From what I have seen on the internet on searches for information on this man and story, is well......a 'clusterfuck'. The story has been spun into outer space.

A standard practice of counterintelligence is to insert a plant (fake) masquerading as just the person the target group would love to have as their poster boy (or girl). They sound perfect at first, but after the news about them has been widely accepted and associated with the target group, either that person blows the story by acting bizzarre, or out of the blue 'somebody' 'exposes' them as a criminal or phoney, etc.

I've found no evidence that MacBeth either was or was not in Iraq, or the military at all.
I found the source of the exposure, JUST CITIZENS, is a blog operated out of the home or office of a Brad Staggs, age 39, who happens to live in Arlington, Virginia USA. Arlington happens to be CIA headquarters, if that means anything here.
But Staggs and other reports seem to be taking it at his word that he called the Rangers records and they didn't have a service or dischard record on MacBeth. No documents to that effect, and no active Army spokesman has been quoted by name.

I've also found no follow up on MacBeth, no new video or interview of him explaining himself or providing documentation.

Thanks for posting the video. MacBeth sounds fluid in his story enough to be believable, though I'm not an Iraq vet so I don't know whether a real vet would notice anything out of place in his story.

But one thing that did sound fake.....to me.......is his stuttering. I think MacBeth may be an actor. I didn't buy the stutter. But of course that's just a personal opinion.

More important that this crazy story, is that there have been bone fide Iraqi veterans who've been on the 'mainstream alternative' radio, NPR, and Pacifica's Democracy Now. Anti-war activist '4 star mom' has been surrounded by real IVAW members for over a year.

My conclusion? In researching this story (which I had never heard of previous to yesterday), I found tons of BS and bogus web sites, and not any substance at all. Yet here we all are paying attention to it.

Smells like counterintelligence work to me. It's just too weird and too off the beaten track to be newsworthy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Iraq Veterans Against the War:
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Questions have been raised about Jesse MacBeth and his claims of service in Iraq. MacBeth came to Iraq Veterans Against the War in January 2006 asking for help, and the organization and its members extended itself to help him in various ways. Assisting veterans is one of the founding principles of IVAW and it is a mission that we take seriously. After looking into his recent claims, we have learned that Jesse is not what he represented himself to be. Accordingly, IVAW does not in any way endorse Jesse MacBeth or any of his accounts involving military service. He -- and he alone -- is responsible for them. IVAW was not aware of the creation of the video program featuring MacBeth, and did not authorize use of our logo in the program.

The timing of the widespread circulation of the MacBeth video interestingly coincides with the ongoing military investigation of the recent Marine massacre of two dozen civilians (including women and children) in Haditha, – what is being termed as an atrocity by one member of Congress (Eyes roll. MacBeth’s false statements unfortunately have played into the hands of those who would deny that any atrocities whatsoever are occurring in Iraq. While such murders by military personnel are reprehensible, ultimate blame for these actions must be placed on the responsible commanding officers, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration who have created the context for chaos in through an illegal and unjust war and occupation which they admit has no end in sight.

IVAW is a young and growing organization of courageous veterans and active duty soldiers in the “War on Terror” whose mission is to end the war in Iraq through immediate withdrawal of troops. We believe that veterans should be given the benefits they deserve upon returning home, and that the United States owes reparations to the Iraqi people for the destruction of their country. The invasion and occupation of Iraq was ill conceived and dishonestly sold to the American people, and IVAW members have the special vantage point of first-hand experience of the war to know why it’s wrong and why we need to bring the troops home now.

Source:
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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Stallion
This Jesse MacBeth affair is unfortunate. Iraq Veterans Against the War is a key organization for bringing public perception of the reality of the occupation home to Americans. Obviously military intelligence and counterintelligence will work vigorously to discredit organized veterans who discourage public 'morale'. Whether MacBeth himself is--as Fintan said---COINTELPRO or just a 'kid on the make' for a few handhouts, we will never know for sure unless some can go deeper into his real background. And he may not be worth the effort at this point.

The Jesse MacBeth story never made the 'liberal mainstream' news layer, it seems to have been limited to the internet layer. If MacBeth had been lauded National Public Radio or even Pacifica, it would have been much more damaging. But whomever was handling him didn't make the phone calls to get him on air. If they had, mainstream national news has the funds to staff professionals who actually know how to check out a person's background, and they do it routinely before going to broadcast.

The exposure of MacBeth this particular week may have been timed to counter this story, which came out this week also. But this story is irrefutable, and currently running in the mainstream outlets.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5434292
Military Probe Accuses Marines of Killing Civilians

This is a serious story, Marine internal affairs has investigated it since November, when it occurred. The incident has been confirmed, as local Iraqis provided video tape and photographs along with their testimony.
It's a story that will get traction in the mainstream, probably more damaging to public perception than the Abu Girab scandal.

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While such murders by military personnel are reprehensible, ultimate blame for these actions must be placed on the responsible commanding officers, Donald Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration - Iraq Veterans Against the War


I think we agree with that statement. The American people were sold another bill of goods by the government, and a couple of hundred thousand young men and women enlisted in the spirit of patriotism. What they encountered has been indoctrination into a military culture involved in a 'dirty' war. A fraud posing in uniform mocks those who served and serve now. And if this was a COINTELPRO con job, that is part of the intention...to discredit the real war veterans, to make their real stories appear suspect and ridiculous.

So DIA counterintelligence and die-hard war advocates can give each other 'high fives' now over slinging a little 'collatoral damage' on the IVAW, but the real atrocity story is about to sweep the MacBeth affair down the memory hole very soon.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Godzilla the Rat Reply with quote

As usual Jones/Watson at PrisonPlanet are hopping aboard the
"Fake Ranger" story because by now the PsyOp angle is glaring.

No big deal, but you'll at least get a good laugh from Watson's spin:

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Fake Soldier Confession Video....
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/may2006/300506fakevideo.htm

May 30, 2006 Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com

"Working in this field for five years and scanning news on a day to day
basis
you quickly develop and hone a bullshit detector that can spot
hoaxes, psy-ops and frauds from a mile off. As soon as the MacBeth
Marine video hit the Internet I smelt a very large rat."

So, scanning the news on "a day to day basis" and smelling a "very large rat",
as soon as the MacBeth video hit the net, it took this CIA Fake until a week
after we ran the story and MacBeth was outed --to scramble and cover his ass.

I smell Godzilla the Rat.
Yeah, very large indeed.



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