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Fintan
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 Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: 9/11 Without Tinfoil 5: Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom |
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 Alex Jones & the Temple of Doom
The implosion of the 9/11 Truth Movement continues as Alex Jones
goes totally fruitloop on his radio show. Audio and analysis.
Plus: A claimed survivor of the London 7/7 Bus Bombing is pushing
a wild story on an Alex Jones broadcast a few days ago.
And: Why the 9/11 CoverUp Will Come Apart at the Seams
The 9/11-3i Investigation Resumes
"The Next Level" Internet Radio Show
DSL Mp3 Audio 
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209a.mp3
Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070209.mp3
First Nine Minutes of this Audio on YouTube
--with some great graphics by Just0.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGYZcpIcQM8
| Quote: | REFERENCES & LINKS
The 4th Bomb
http://www.the4thbomb.com/
http://daniel77witness.blogspot.com/
Full Audio of Daniel on the Alex Jones Show
http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/Daniel-AlexJones.mp3
| Quote: | 7/7 Survivors Tale is a Bomb
by Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com, 30th January, 2007
Some weeks ago I reviewed the London bus bombing tale by someone
claiming to be a survivor of the blast.... So, who is this guy?
Daniel 7:7 - "After this I saw in the night visions, and
behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong
exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and
brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of
it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were
before it; and it had ten horns."
http://bible.cc/daniel/7-7.htm
READ THE FULL STORY HERE
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13526#13526
Also Posted at:
http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopic=23&view=findpost&p=11822989 |
| Quote: | Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill
By Fintan Dunne, Editor - BreakForNews.com July 11th, 2005 5pm ET
Radio host, Alex Jones is spreading misleading, false and overblown claims linking Peter Power, a crisis management consultant and former member of Britain's anti-terror police, to a 'terrorism drill' which Jones alleges was used to provide cover for State perpetrators of the multiple blasts.
 The wild allegations leave others presenting so-called "conspiracy theories" about these attacks open to ridicule --because of false claims by the most reknowned radio show on these topics.
The weekend article by Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones was published on the PrisonPlanet.com website. They claim that in a BBC Radio 5 interview on July 7th, Peter Power admitted that his Visor Consulting firm: "was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life."
That couldn't be more wrong.......
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/alex-jones-is-wrong-on-london-terror.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005090705bombingexercises.htm |
| Quote: | Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype
Now you will see why two weeks ago I challenged the wild article by Alex Jones that a terror drill by UK security consultants, Visor had acted as a plausible deniability cover for those who carried out the 7/7 London bomb attacks.
I had known it was a setup from the start. These stories are deliberate false decoys designed to allow mainstream media to later ridicule 'conspiracy theories' which turn out to be untrue.
And now, predictably the U.K. TV Channel 4 is using the errors in Alex Jones' article to sneer at bloggers and alternative media. News reporter JJ King writes:
| Quote: | | Prison Planet, in an article entitled 'London Underground Bombing "Exercises" argued that the simulated attacks were, whether Power knew it or not, intended to act as a cover for the real ones. News agency Al Jazeera agreed, baldly asserting that 'The London Underground exercises were used as the fallback cover to carry out the attack.' |
King then quotes my article debunking Jones (which I knew the mainstream probably would do, but I had to try prevent alternative media walking wholesale into the setup.)
| Quote: | | In fact, the 'exercises' he spoke of on Five Live were carried out purely 'on paper', or at least PowerPoint, by a small group of seven or eight executives..." As Fintan Dunne, editor of BreakForNews.com points out, 'these types of private-sector "risk management" drills never use field staff. |
King goes on to damm bloggers as incompetent:
| Quote: | In the light of a brief interview with Power, the 'unbelievable' coincidence of events suddenly seems entirely comprehensible: the train stations targeted, after all, were all in central London -- any planner would pick these amongst a list of possible targets.
'When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras,' goes the often-quoted popularisation of Occam's Razor. In the absence of journalistic nous, bloggers would do well to stick by it. |
It's sickening to have the mainstream able to sneer like this. I know they do this all the time. But when they spend three pages like this on a carefully selected "conspiracy theory" --you know that we just goofed by giving them ammunition to portray themselves as guardians of reason.
That's how the Jones over-the-top hype damages us.
Visor's eight-person, office-bound terror drill wasn't cover for the black op. The story of the coincident drill was itself the decoy cover.
What is galling is that Peter Power of Visor has actually got very interesting links to Rudi Giuliani and the 'security industry' --both police and private sector. These links help show the nexus of malign vested interest behind the so-called 'War on Terror'.
What is even more galling is that the London bombs black op is full of holes, but that information sort of gets lost as sensational claims fall flat.
Only question is: did Jones hype this story in error or by design?
posted by Fintan, BreakForNews.com
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/mainstream-ridicules-visor-terror.html
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=372¶sStartAt=0
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=372¶sStartAt=0
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/giuliani-linked-to-london-terror-drill.html |
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The CIA's Internet Fakes
http://www.breakfornews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cias-internet-fakes.html
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Aniam
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| In regard to Daniel 7:7 mentioned in the audio, and its relationship to the Biblical book of Daniel and the 4th beast that the text describes; that 4th beast was the Roman Empire. The first 3 were Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. And yes, now it all ends. |
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Ormond
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Very positive feeling broadcast, especially toward the end.
Mentioned an aspect of 911 I don't say out loud in 911 discussion, since it has to do with the metaphor and possible allegories suggested. It can't have been a coincidental choice of such obvious symbols of the twin J & B props for the 'big event' to kick in the new milleneum. Did they really screw up with that in as ironic and elementary way as it seems?
If you're right, jeeze--they goin' down!
Perhaps a lyric by Johnny Cash would be fitting for these soon to be falling stars...
| Quote: | I fell in to a burning ring of fire
I went down,down,down
and the flames went higher.
And it burns,burns,burns
the ring of fire
the ring of fire. |
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First on the positive sounding messages in the last two audios of Fintan Dunne:
I ask Fintan?
Are you (trying to) mold reality as a writer, or are you reporting it as a reporter?
If you know what I mean!
Prophet or Pundit?
or a bit inside the
YIN & the yang?
On Jones:
The first time I peeped that Jones wasn’t too cool was in his famous Bohemian grove infiltration video where he ended up mocking and making fun of some witches who were protesting the Bohemian event. That showed he might be a bigot and narrow-minded person despite all the anti- NWO rhetoric he espouses. Those “witches” seemed to be sincere honest people despite being different, and Jones mocking their invocation in the woods was a response of a bigot, not a tolerant open minded person.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983
The second time I realized there was a problem with him was at the bilderburg meeting I think in Canada where he started yelling and screaming at the participants of the meeting with a bullhorn across the street from the Hotel they were having the meeting in. He ranted and raved and sounded somewhat ridiculous and you could see then that what he was doing wasn’t helping his cause out at all.
I could imagine the Bildenburg people looking out their window at him as they chomped on their caviar and sipped red wine laughing like hell at Jones ranting and raving on the street.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/110606Bullhorns.htm
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Robert
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| Quote: | Actually the technology would appear to be simple...
Use high volume internet site to post subject video from news channel of psy-op then just tag in Re:(subject) to place another wedge. |
Glad to see you understood what i was saying Fintan.
Have a look at this man's vision,i knew nothing of him and somehow his passing in January percolated into my life.Great clarity...in the experiments.
http://www.headless.org/english-new/homepage.html
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Fintan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: There's our boy! |
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| Quote: | | coolcrab: alex jones truly is an entertainer though... |
Pretty good rabble-rouser too.  Seen the MO in the past. SOP.
| Quote: | | Robert: Glad to see you understood what i was saying Fintan. |
As you say.... it's a win, win.
Or even a win, win, win.
Here a year already? Time flies.
Nice Link. The physicality of self-demonstration is powerful.
| Quote: | | Zak247: Prophet or Pundit? |
Dunno if I can fit in any particular box for you.
Would it suit better if I only did bare reporting and was negative?
Sounds a bit like the mainstream media....
| Quote: | zak247: I could imagine the Bildenburg people looking out
their window at him as they chomped on their caviar and sipped red wine
laughing like hell at Jones ranting and raving on the street. |
I rather think that if the Bildeberg's noticed Jones in the street below,
they would have gazed opon him with great fondness and nodded to
each other saying:
"There's our boy!"
Outraged peasants are a perennial problem for any elite, but it's alwaysreassuring
to have your own man leading the rabble in ever-decreasing circles.
T'was ever thus.
| Quote: | | Ormond: Did they really screw up with that in as ironic and elementary way as it seems? |
"We need some impressive shit to knock down. Ummm.... They'll do fine!" |
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zak247
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Re: There's our boy! |
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Dunno if I can fit in any particular box for you.
Would it suit better if I only did bare reporting and was negative?
Sounds a bit like the mainstream media....
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It doesn’t matter where you are in my sight; I don’t judge, it matters where you are in the sight of reality.
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you sure he's not our boy, too? |
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Ormond
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JONES
I remember being suspicious of Jones as soon as he popped up. I was living in Austin when he appeared.
In 1999, suddenly here's this guy out of thin air on radio and with a fully developed very expensive web site, working out of a big office with a full staff worthy of an established newspaper. Where did he get the up front money for that?
At the time, though, I was naive to think it was just about the media market niche--strictly business, you know. Like Rush Limbaugh, Art Bell. I thought these were just career radio jocks hip to the business of creating names for themselves by getting an audience, which gets you corporate sponsors and gets you rich.
But you don't kill your own goose that's still laying golden eggs. Not if it's just about the money.
Recall that Limbaugh also imploded a while back. The oxycontin scandal.
The drugs, the re-hab.
He's back of course, still got his following. And they're keeping him on air with things like that meaningless nomination for a Nobel Peace Prize.
But Fintan pointed out what these guys are doing with the implosion phase.
They discredit their market target group, The smart ones leave and go to somebody else--and what's left are the dorks.
There are multiple gains from the method. One I suppose is it affords them a guage on how many people are they still fooling.
Rush seems to have come out of implosion with much of his audience intact! But to the rest, his credibility is vaporized, if it ever existed at all.
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Ormond
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On 'why' the Twin Towers...
| Quote: | | "We need some impressive shit to knock down. Ummm.... They'll do fine!" |
If that's right, you just blew my mind. It flips the paradigm that they're 'omniscient' to the eternal caveat that men obsessed with Godhood climb to intoxicating heights only to become blinded by their delusion of grandeur, and do the stupidest things before they realize their folly. And 'poof'--Icharus says, 'uh oh. oh shit'.
And the higher and more grandiouse they get, the more spectacular and ludicrous the fall.
In Dostoyevsky's The Possessed, there's a character , Kirilov, who's obsessed with discovering the secret of becoming God. Eventually he arrives at the conclusion that the difference between man and God is that man fears Death, and if a man can overcome the fear of his own death, he becomes God.
So he shoots himself in the head.
One thing's certain, by heating things, and applying pressure downward over the human being globally, thought's actually accelerating, building up pressure underneath. I wait to see if the result may just be hitting the flashpoint that miraculously shatters their 'matrix'.
The matrix consists really of nothing but memory--false memory simulacra reality created for the purpose of control.
We're now in an age in which everyone everywhere is in process of our minds running through our memory neurons non-stop, and this may result in the shattering of belief in the material reality, ideology, even the center of self-as-matter only. If those things shatter, who's going to be scared of lawyers, guns, and money?
The Gulliver allegory still works quite aptly too.
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It flips the paradigm that they're 'omniscient' to the eternal caveat that men obsessed with Godhood climb to intoxicating heights only to become blinded by their delusion of grandeur, and do the stupidest things before they realize their folly.
Perfectly put. And so true. They have been stupid. However, I don't think we're far enough ahead in the game. And by that I mean resources and the minds of the general public. We might be ahead just now, but for how long? |
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| Quote: | | We might be ahead just now, but for how long? |
I don't think we're ahead yet. People are hitting points of waking up more frequently now, it's accelerated.
But they come back with the new psyops to put them back to slumber.
This out of left field Anna Nichole nonsense for instance.
The public is going to have to reach a point when they simply quit watching television--spontaneously, en masse. That should be one reliable indicator, if it happens, that we really are ahead.
It sounds impossible, but something of that scope did happen before. An example is, in the 5th century, a generation of Roman youth simply got disgusted with the Bloodbath Circus at the Colleseum. They just quit going. The Roman social controllers did not plan for that, or anticipate it.
We know the rest. The Empire fell apart because the old rules that had worked for social control no longer applied.
Our time really is exponentially accelerated over the Roman. What took a Century in Rome in terms of public paradigm shift now probably happens in a couple of years at this point.
Listen. If the public ever simply wakes up seeing through the Big Lies one morning, then that will scare the perps and their whole illusion industry as much as the morning of 911 scared us.
That would be Gulliver standing up.
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| Quote: | | I don't think we're ahead yet. People are hitting points of waking up more frequently now, it's accelerated. |
We're more ahead than we've ever been in history. Big thanks to da internets. Whether you notice it or not, we're entering a very special age. This is the most exciting time to be alive. Stay hopeful 
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Our time really is exponentially accelerated over the Roman. What took a Century in Rome in terms of public paradigm shift now probably happens in a couple of years at this point.
I hope I'm up to speed here, but I think that is what Fintan was saying in his latest broadcast, re the internet. I don't think the 'minds' behind 9/11 were far enough ahead. They 'thought' they were - by giving us Alex Jones and the other CIA Fakes (or 'Rogue Outfits' as I would call them) - but the internet still, at this point in time, allows all voices to be heard. And we have to use that.
But, my worry is, has Fintan peaked too soon? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: Rohrbacher's Dinosaur Flatulence |
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And, right on cue, here's the Alex Jones of the Global Warming Congressional opposition, ( Dana Rohrabacher. He makes reference to global warming possibly not being attributable to human interaction, then lists "dinosaur flatulence" as a possible cause. 
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/10/dino-flatulence/
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