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Fintan
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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MichaelC:
With all due respect to Fintan I must confess that I also have a problem
with fire plus the planes as the force pulling down both buildings.

I can appreciate that. Especially as the issue of controlled demo of the
towers has been a mainstay of the CIA Fakes for years.

But I never committed to it an an answer. Like others, I went through
all the possible ways they could have been brought down at the time
we all pursued a solution in the 9/11 3i investigation. But solution after
solution proved to be insubstantial. I never could nail a definitive
method, and never have.

There was also the problem that after many, many literally days of
watching and re-watching all the video of the collapses over the
course of the years, all I could see was the towers failing at or near
to point of impact of the planes.

There are many videos of collapse.
Here's the most dramatic which I uploaded today:
http://breakfornews.com/offsitearchive/NorthTowerCollapse.wmv

Because my long established M.O. is not to commit to an answer in any
aspect of the 9/11 issue --until I have definitive analysis-- it doesn't cost
me anything to walk away from the controlled demo theory.

But consider this: ( And I address this to anybody with an open mind)

If they brought down the Towers with carefully targetted planes,
then the controlled demo is the most devestating trap ever for
the 9/11 movement.

Inviting the movement to bang it's head of the stone wall
of proving a Towers Demolition which never took place.

Thus scuppering the whole movement.

That wold be cute of them, wouldn't it.

I recommend listening again to the two audios I did
in Jan 2009 on this specific issue. Part 1 and 2.

Part 2 especially:

Part 1
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=54125#54125
Part 2
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=54153#54153

Actually..........

I'm going to remix this new audio to integrate the
old material on the Tower Collapse from Part 2.

I think I need to remind people of the arguments
I made back then. It's too big an ask to assert
the targetted plane strikes downed the Towers
and simply say listen to Part 2 of the Jan '09.

I'll make One audio of it all.

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote:

There are many videos of collapse.
Here's the most dramatic which I uploaded today:
http://breakfornews.com/offsitearchive/NorthTowerCollapse.wmv


I keep a high resolution copy of that video on my computers for reference and a reality check. There are so many theories thrown out the window by this one video, it should be required watching before entering any debate of the physical evidence anomalies ... Wink

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good old Bob and Bri in re-racked slow motion. Nice! Absolutely amazing!

Here watch them call Tower 1 Tower 2--further watch the column fall on itself --straight down.

This train is filling rapidly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JG7vMQYqA&feature=related

What is that large thing that falls off to the right made of >>> LOL

I have a killer f, ing head ache!

Edited tape! What a nightmare!

best,

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hombre wrote:
Good old Bob and Bri in re-racked slow motion. Nice! Absolutely amazing!

Here watch them call Tower 1 Tower 2--further watch the column fall on itself --straight down.

This train is filling rapidly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JG7vMQYqA&feature=related

What is that large thing that falls off to the right made of >>> LOL

I have a killer f, ing head ache!

Edited tape! What a nightmare!

best,

Hombre'


What is your point Hombre? What does Bob and Bri have to do with your headache? Other than a possible obscure reference to "Twin Peaks" ... you lost me at Bob ... Confused What was edited and why?

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to the audio twice. Nice job and well presented Fintan. I have been sending the links to friends, trying to spread this side of the 911 story.

I am still finding it hard to come to the same conclusion about tower 1 and 2. Like you have stated Fintan, they had to make SURE the operation was a success. Don't you think for insurance they would have at least SOME carefully placed cutter charges?

As a small side note. The bulding I work in has some floors above us with work going on. The noises made are not questioned by anybody, so my point being it would have been easy, I think, to schedule in some "work" to be done unnoticed on WTC 1 and 2.

I am waiting for your take on WTC7. Only controled demo could bring that tower down in the manner it did.

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about building 7 ??

I'm with Hombre on this - that we have been spoon-fed demolition
by CIA fakes does not mean it's not true.

He knows that I know that I know that he knows that I know... spy vs. spy.
How then can we know what conclusion we are meant to to reach...



The main sticking point for me is one of symmetry, (equally applied explosive / heat / fire forces of destruction).
I just cannot believe that such a lopsided, randomly applied force could bring about so symmetrical a collapse, (angles of penetration notwithstanding).

But I do not want to belabour the point... all I can say is that I will never know for sure, that's for sure!
And it really makes no difference at all regards my knowing it stinks from beginning to end.

Following this thread to its logical conclusion, should we all then conclude the entire operation was carried out by the 19 hijackers? And that JFK was indeed killed by a lone kook?
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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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howg:
Don't you think for insurance they would have
at least SOME carefully placed cutter charges?

This below is Part 2 of the Final Verdict,
which I mentioned in the audio.

Quote:
LISTEN:
Broadband Mp3 Audio
http://BreakForNews.com/audio/BeautifulTruth090129a.mp3
Click to Play or Right-Click to 'Save As' and Download.

Dialup Mp3 Audio
http://BreakForNews.com/audio/BeautifulTruth090129.mp3
Click to Play or Right-Click to 'Save As' and Download.

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=54153#54153

In the first fifteen minutes I cover the question of cutter charges
and other explosives which you are raising above.

Quote:
howg:
that we have been spoon-fed demolition
by CIA fakes does not mean it's not true.

Well it's grounds for suspicion, but yes I agree we can't draw conclusions
from that --and I'm not. I am drawing my conclusions from a study of the
unique design and construction of the Towers.

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howg:
I just cannot believe that such a lopsided, randomly applied force could bring about so symmetrical a collapse, (angles of penetration notwithstanding).


The core acted as a spindle --holding the collapse pretty symmetrical.

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howg:
Following this thread to its logical conclusion, should we all then conclude the entire operation was carried out by the 19 hijackers?

I wouldn't say so. They were mostly extras for theatrical effect.

The hijackers hijacked.

The NWO controlled what happened before and after the hijacks began.

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New postPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan:

What is your opinion on the North Side witnesses?
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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re Part II:

Thanks for reminding me that nothing, but NOTHING, is put out by the NWO-controlled media unless it advances their agenda.

Nothing.
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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Twin Towers WERE constructed from nano thermate.

Duh.

Simple. Occam.

Razor sharp evidence.

Watch this ground.

Zero.


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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again...


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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wondered why the insurance and re-insurance companies, which I think included GEICO and SWISS-RE among others, paid out the multi-billion dollar claims for what was possibly the biggest case of insurance fraud to date - with nary a protest.

More importantly, no protest from the shareholders of these companies.

Very curious indeed......
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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkwind losing you is impossible, I'm sure you're well aware of where I'm coming from.

That video you're so fond of was taken from the video shot by Bob and Bri, was it not? Sure I may be mistaken but that's not really the point.

The point is that you say you look at it as a means to discredit other such videos. I find that odd since your tape is in extreme slow motion. What evidence does it show, real evidence?

One day you guys dis the vids, next day you hold them up for display--memory lapse, or something other?

Twin Peaks was not my cup of tea, I prefer reality and the reality of 9-11 is one giant cluster fuck of disinfo on both sides of the debate, this can't be denied. Some of it unwittingly done by honest people, some by those with agendas, others just jacking off to their own egos!

I'd be foolish to suggest that I know more about 9-11 than the next guy does, equally foolish to suggest that I'm completely ignorant of 90% of the know facts, or majority of the available information!

Like I said: It's difficult to explain Tower 2 being struck second only to fall first, and from the same supposed elements no less. What's the standard reason? They were built in a slightly different manner, one was struck lower than the other, one core different from the other. lol--That's pure window dressing and mostly speculation.

I though being built differently was not significant on one thread where the cores were discussed at length, why is it necessary to use that example as a means of propping up another theory?

I'm willing to bet that there are literally thousands of photographs and dozens upon dozens of video tapes that will never see the light of day in regard to Sept 11, just as their are equal numbers that have been edited in one form or another.

Here is a video of the hole in the North Tower ( Tower 1 ) What does that say about the collapse? What would those window washers say? WHY are they absent in many many other often used videos? I've pics of Tower one before 2 was struck, from the exact same angle and those washers have been removed from the photo or they were off that facade within 12-15 mins of the first strike, take your pick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBIthneRkE0&feature=related


That's a huge, well defined, gaping freaking hole---So if Fire was indeed the culprit, and one was compromised much further/worse than two was, WHY did two fall first?

Simple question----who has a simple answer?

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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very good question. I thought the jet fuel, which mainly was contained in a comparitively localised area, burning in tower 1 was the reason it collapsed? If most of the jet fuel blasted out of tower 2 in the fireball, why would it collapse first? What did the official report say?

What justifiable reason was given for why the crime scene cleared up so quickly? (What, if anything, were they trying to hide?) Thats a crime in itself, surely?
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New postPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's just say the big boys get their situations taken care of with priority... regarding why insurance companies didn't flinch and why ground zero was cleaned up without a hitch.

Odd, maybe not. I mean, if my house burned down, G-d forbid, I'd likely wait and wait on that settlement. And no doubt, there would be plenty of probes up my anus during the process.

If, however, I was some multi-billionaire connected to Wall Street, Insurance, Finance or Pharma... well, maybe the wait wouldn't be so bad considering I was on their all-star list.

The logic here does not preclude any unethical deviation from normal "procedures" given to people like moi.

I'm just sayin' Smile.

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