9/11 Deja Vu Audios: Wall St. & Nazis

[Craig W]

I just wanted to respond to Fintan's audio about the economic/financial roots of 911. I don't claim to understand all the big economical malarkey (who does??) but it seems to me that this may be a case of over-complicating things.

Couldn't the motives for 911 be oil and drugs?

Oil is the lifeblood of the global economy and has been the main cause of the Middle-Eastern troubles for 100 years. 911 allowed the US (and the western financial elite) to get a massive foothold in Afghanistan and then Iraq - strategically important places to increase influence in the world's richest hydro-carbon region - and neatly sandwiching Iran.





Afghanistan is the source of over 90% of global opium, which the Taliban almost completely quashed in 2001. Immediately after the invasion opium production was restored (see the opium production graph from the UNODC below) and the drug-money machine began to turn again, making some people in the intelligence community (and banking?) very happy.



While there's been massive war-profiteering and erosions of civil liberties on the back of all this, I don't think they were the prime motives.

So does it have to be any more complicated than that? Oil and drugs seem to cover a lot of the bases to me... Or am I being naive and too limited in my thinking here?

[eplabnista]

It's quite impressive to see an entire site apparently constructed by intelligence people. The recording about the Pentagon, the forensics people involved, and the statement that it is impossible the there could be a cover up is a preposterous cover in and of itself.

First of all, it is _impossible_ that a 767 or 757 (whichever doesn't matter), hit the Pentagon - an impossibility. To say that one did is to say that the moon is made of cheese and the tooth fairy is the President. Virtually _all_ of the evidence points to a guided explosive device - possibly delivered in combination with a low flyby by a larger aircraft... but no "heavy" hit the Pentagon, and you just make yourselves look like complete asses and obvious liars by insisting so.

Further, it is likely that all the members of the fated flight are dead - not alive. But perhaps murdered. If that is so, then "finding" the DNA of the passengers would be pretty easy, hunh? Then you wouldn't need to have a "big cover up" involving _all_ of the doctors and forensics specialists would you. Nope. You wouldn't. You'd need only bring some to the site. Quite feasible.

As for explosives in the towers -- get real: There is _no_other_way_ (given the physics of planet earth) than for controlled demolition to have brought them down. The pancake theory is obvious bullshit. And there simply is no other explanation for a 47-story building to fall into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds -- turning to powder on the way. You really marked yourselves as a shill site right there. You don't need Steven Jones excellent science, nor perfection from David Ray Griffin -- got eyeballs and a stopwatch... watch the fucking video.

What morons.

[bri]

Those were the days weren't they folks? When the majority of us were turning truther perhaps we remember rumors or believing ourselves that we were going to get some confessions. Yeah Joe Sixpack carefully planted charred bodies at the pentagon site, aimed a missle at 93, and sprinkled thermate and fireworks throughout every floor of 2 extremely large and one reasonably large bulding(s). Perhaps they simply killed him with a magic bullet and teleported him to the remains of ground zero dressed like a rescue worker.

[bri]

Craig W, the motive is money and the control of society. Is that overcomplicating things? Sure we get plenty of dope from the mideast, oil what have you, but this is not the big picture. My small mind has only just begun to wrap around it. The link Fintan posted above is excellent so far as I've gathered. These people are still in power. I've started a one-two punch read of Antony Suttons famous Wall Street books, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler is available in the "further reading" links. The Bolshevik one seems interesting as well but I've heard that Brezenski endorsed the book and I'm not quite sure how to handle that......anyways I imagine the powers in panic over the horrible things they were trying to get away with, 911 happened to fuck with our heads, keep us all in ptsd, distracted, set us back, lose faith. It hasn't worked enough and they will fail miserably in the end, even if public opinion doesn't catch on for many years.

[bri]

All in all it's an "open conspiracy", the cover being "fruitloop conspiracy", general confusion, control of "history" ,and sometimes most importantly our own self deceptions.

[MichaelC]

Craig wrote:

[Hombre]

[bri]

Hombre, we've been through this too many times. I actually somewhat agree with your statements about me as of late, these posts of mine have become fruitless, no information all ego and opinion. I'm just going to shut up for a bit, at least until I have something of relevance to say. Have fun with whatever it is you are doing.

[Hombre]

Bri,

Why are you ignoring the shill implication? Any comment
in regard to that post? I'm curious but maybe you feel
it's not necessary to dignify such nonsense with any response.

Personally I think it's a simple case of some people
becoming too emotionally attached to something they
refuse to look at from a different perspective. But that's
just me.

Kind of like 9-11 being Masterminded by a 6'4" Arab
who fancies caves and Mules as opposed to a home
and a shiny ride. One no one seems capable of
finding. Has all the makings of a great Campfire story.

Hard to believe that Tim Russert had a multi-million
person viewing audience the night that he explained
Bin Ladin's dwelling. How elaborate, how sophisticated,
how utterly fucking laughable!

You wanna here something really really out there? I
mean deep out there: I was told by someone who was told
by a Private Contractor who has just returned from a region
in Afghanistan, third of fourth duty with two left to pull. He
said ( it's rumored ) that some PC's are actually protecting/
guarding the Arab--providing security at several k per day
a piece. How do they do it---( thought ) you might ask.

Technology--simple beacon transmitters complete with
little back packs and satt antenna's--the transmissions
are " NO BOMBING ZONE " Transmits.

Just what the kid said but maybe he's just another
chock full of shit! LOL--

How do ya like them apples? Second, how long do you
think they let those on the Grassy Knoll live after the deed?

I'll put the over and under @ 2 hours tops.

Isn't that the best Insurance policy of all? Or do loose lips really
sink ships?

Hombre'

[bri]

[Fintan]

[MichaelC]

Fintan wrote:

[Craig W]

[bri]

WWII Bombing Patterns,ITT, Himmler, & Keppler's Circle


Trilateral Commission



Bones

[Fintan]

Sutton nails it in 3 videos!!

Great selection dude.
Love the bit where he spotlights GHW Bush.