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Fintan
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bri
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Great audio, but the phone rang 3 times, and I'll have to listen again to make sure I got everything. 
Speaking of connecting dots - let's not forget the very first place that Pres Dubya flew directly to right after the My Pet Goat episode on 9/11, while the country was "under attack" - Offut AFB, and supposedly a meeting with Warren Buffett, the unabashedly admitted owner of the mysterious white plane seen flying over Shanksville that day, as reported by dozens of witnesses. |
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Rick Dagless
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Are you for real? Michael Milken was innocent? He was a good guy?
Please.
The junk bond king was a predator and a leach. And I'm being nice. The guy bilked hundreds of millions of dollars a year by destroying American companies and American jobs. One reaps wealth that large by destroying jobs, not creating them. By impoverishing others to enrich one's self.
He is a parasite. Period.
Arnold's buddy too.
Hey, next audio tell us all what a great guy Charles Keating was. Then Ken Lay too. Another friend of Arnold.
You praise the sick rightwing freak show the John Birch Society as patriots and now you glorify a mega wealthy Wall Street crook as an underdog. Wow.
What next?
And you call it "Beautiful Truth". Wow. |
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Fintan
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Knee-jerk, trivial response.
A telegram from your intellectual bunker.
Put your hands over your ears as well.
You'll hear even fewer opinions contrary to your own.
Armstrong's says the reason Milken was prosecuted was that
he was not in the 'club'. I think that is probably a good point.
Led any good lynch mobs recently?
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| Quote: | the reason Milken was prosecuted was that
he was not in the 'club'. |
This is also most likely the sole reason for the "war on drugs", with the DEA, etc - to keep those who are 'not in the club' from sharing in the profits.
DEA = 100% on the payroll of the International narco cartel.
Anyone 'not in the club' either gets killed or spends a good chunk of his life in prison. |
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Hombre
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| Quote: | Please.
The junk bond king was a predator and a leach. And I'm being nice. The guy bilked hundreds of millions of dollars a year by destroying American companies and American jobs. One reaps wealth that large by destroying jobs, not creating them. By impoverishing others to enrich one's self.
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You're missing the point, I'm of firm belief that Fintan is 100% correct with his line of REASONING, that said I can still argue against some of the process. How can you not understand that in every scandal/conspiracy someone is always made an example of? Milkin was an easy target, I can absolutely buy into the behind the scenes action on how this came to be.
I am very guilty of posting that which I think or assume people, WHO ARE IN DISCUSSION in regard to certain topics, KNOW ABOUT and are familiar with. I need to stop that as I think it confuses come people.
I mentioned the SEC's rule change that took place in 2004. One of the Bush administrations first acts upon re-election. It allowed for IB's ( INVESTMENT BANKS ) That's what IB means, to carry far more debt on their books than previously allowed under the old REGULATION.
This turned out to be Lehman Bros undoing although one can spin it any way they wish this was the actual KILLER, it wasn't by accident because they were ENCOURAGED to take it on. At the time of their demise they had 600 BILLION IN DEBT on their books and NOBODY willing to extend ANY CREDIT---Not even a short term SWEETHEART high rate deal. 
Take any 100 people you know > in their lifetimes COMBINED they will never come close to earning enough money to service any segment of that debt--EVER. The size of monies involved here are beyond the normal persons scope, way beyond. It's plenty reason enough to pull off 9-11 albeit just one small example of the BIG PICTURE.
In my experience the money is sometimes secondary to the KILL, the taking out of some person, place or thing. In these cases those entities involve innocent people, jobs, and stability. Each of these things touched upon in the audio.
Well done.
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I think, Rick, your view is a misunderstanding of our parasitical world. Try this opinion as an escape tool, so to speak...
| Quote: | You have struggled long hours at the cost of all personal relationships. You have no time for vacations, leisure, relaxation. That unrelenting struggle is required for meeting the responsibilities to your customers, employees, and company. Without more time, you cannot reach your potential of building a worldwide enterprise -- an enterprise providing countless jobs by delivering health, happiness, and prosperity to everyone. You realize that those two years of forced-labor paperwork per decade (like receiving a ten-year prison term for producing competitive values for others and society over a fifty-year career) was the very block of creative time and crucial concentration needed to reach your potential, your goal. ...Such is the destruction inflicted today on every hard-driving value producer with supreme potentials and goals.
Then, you realize the escalation of time-destroying tax complexities backed by harsher and harsher penalties has nothing to do with collecting taxes. Instead, that escalation of destructiveness and penalties has everything to do with increasing bureaucratic control. For, that increasing control over the value producers is how the parasitical-elite class survives -- how it creates more and more harmful jobs and power needed to live parasitically.
You now understand how the parasitical elites join with white-collar-hoax executives of stagnant big businesses to prevent competition from the most competent entrepreneurs. You now understand why those elites must malign, destroy, and imprison great value producers -- honest but aggressive, tough, often unpopular businesspeople like Michael Milken and Leona Helmsley who prospered by delivering competitive values to society, thus, threatening the livelihoods of all parasites. By stifling aggressive competition, parasitical elites keep their own harmful livelihoods from being exposed and eliminated. |
For context and a proper understanding it continues here... http://www.neo-techsociety.com/myaccount/library/zonpower/chapter12.html
It could be called a warning from the past, from a brilliant mind
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Thanks once again, Fintan.
Excellent perceptions.
Is it true that Goldman, as well as JP Morgan/Chase, are among the original 'purchasers' of shares in the New York Fed in 1914?
So it's not that the Fed 'fears' Goldman.
Goldman IS the Fed. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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If you didn't get the scope the first time around ... listen again! Yes ... it is dry, detail but ... there is some major information exposed by Armstrong ... look at the markets today to verify his story ... next part .. can't wait!
Good one Fintan!
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| MichaelC wrote: |
This is also most likely the sole reason for the "war on drugs", with the DEA, etc - to keep those who are 'not in the club' from sharing in the profits.
DEA = 100% on the payroll of the International narco cartel.
Anyone 'not in the club' either gets killed or spends a good chunk of his life in prison. |
Prezackly. No one would ever consider Manuel Noriega a "good guy" either, but he was removed because he was feeling too many oats, and was seen as 'uncontrolled competition' to the intel networks' ever-increasing monopoly of the global drug trade. |
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atm
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Are you saying, Fintan, that 9/11 was pulled off becuase markets were being manipulated?
I don't get it. How do you link the two?
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Hombre
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| atm wrote: | Are you saying, Fintan, that 9/11 was pulled off becuase markets were being manipulated?
I don't get it. How do you link the two?
atm |
No he's not saying that, however the link is crystal clear and more than a few people have said this before. The real problem with it is it's ultimate complexity. The number of people who had to know the in's and out goes up by many hundreds, hundreds of individuals who would have to turn a blind eye or remain silent. Therefore I must disagree with the scope of it.
A Computer program and a few well placed people could make a few billion profit if they knew in advance that Commercial Jets were going to be used to hit the WTC. But the trail of evidence would be HUGE in that instance and it most assuredly would have been a COMPANY SIGNATURE as opposed to some rogue NWO member shorting stock and buying mass numbers of put options. No way to keep that from EVERYONE at the SEC---Impossible because of the red flags it would have produced through the filings.
Lots of money, Millions were made in the aftermath by going long on defense contractors and certain specialty companies. The commodities angle is a good one and will probably go far to explain much of what these guys were really after.
And please please please DON'T mention Enron! That's the biggest fucking rabbit hole in the whole shooting match. It's embarrassing to think that abortion had anything to do with 9-11.
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Fintan
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The Next Level Show - 5th February, 2010
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| Quote: |  Wall Street, Banks, and
American Foreign Policy
by Murray N. Rothbard
READ AT:
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| Quote: | The Politics of Obedience by Murray N. Rothbard
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard29.html
More Rothbard:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard-lib.html |
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Fintan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| atm wrote: | Are you saying, Fintan, that 9/11 was pulled off becuase markets were being manipulated?
I don't get it. How do you link the two?
atm |
Well I hope the second half of the audio makes it clear.
I'm not focussed at all on the issue of who may or may not
have profited from shorting airline stocks ahead of 9/11.
Too short a timeframe and mere chump change.
I'm talking about the 9/11 event as an integral part of a
globalization project which kicked off with Bush/Regan.
That early-80's "reform" of markets led to the Wall St Monsters
of today and the wave of unleashed capital empowered the NWO
with a US/UK Weapon of Financial Destruction with which to wage
economic warfare in pursuit of globalist trade and political goals.
The Wall St. Financial Industry Complex has been at least
as important to the NWO as its Military Industrial Complex.
Now, the NWO project may have faltered but
the US is in the hole for over $200 Trillion
of liabilities and lost economic assets.
Now that's what I call a motive for 9/11.
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