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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: WTC Plane Strikes Are A 9/11 Smoking Gun Reply with quote

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Audio & Discussion Here:
http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=64216#64216

North Tower Impact Angle


South Tower Impact Angle


WTC Plane Strikes Are A 9/11 Smoking Gun

Back in May, 2010 I did a 9/11 Deja Vu audio: "How They Pulled Off 9/11"

I spotlighted the fact that two plane impacts on the side of the North and
South WTC Towers were at approximately the same angle. The reason:
to spread fire across as many floors as possible. I said the means of
achieving the precise angles was computer control of the flight path -
with no human piloting the approach.

I also said that the low high-speed plane approach to the Pentagon was
another sign of computer control of the flight path, because a human
would have aimed straight at the Pentagon from a height, rather than
come down, level out, and track in - at high speed. The ability to track
in to the target tends to indicate computer control of the flight path.

Now I'd like to draw your attention to an extremely comprehensive video
analysis of the flight path into the South Tower and a similar, but briefer
analysis of the North Tower flight path.


The video challenges the NIST account of the South Tower plane strike.
It shows that the plane was perfectly perpendicular in alignment to the Tower
at the point of impact. In other words, that precise rectangular orientation
of the plane was the end point of a computer targeting system. A similar
analysis of the North Tower shows the same perpendicular orientation.

The video analysis also shows that the South Tower flight path had two
course corrections in the last 5 seconds
- with such a narrow margin of
error that the final nine degree turn just 2.5 seconds before impact, had
to be accurate to within three degrees or miss the Tower altogether.

We may now have the strongest physical evidence yet about 9/11.

Evidence that the three plane strikes at the Pentagon and the WTC
were of such flying difficulty and had signal characteristics in their flight
paths that show a computer system was guiding all three strikes.


First, to whet your appetite, here's a couple of very short videos
of the final seconds course adjustments in the flight path of UA 175:

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8wYDNGRkk



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZi7TiXWcC4


Now to the main feature. Watch as many broadcast videos of the South
Tower impact are mapped onto a 3D model of the scene, allowing the
most accurate ever computation of the flight path. (Part 1 & 2)


Quote:
Last 12 Seconds South Tower Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDtwOR-3wQ


Last 12 Seconds South Tower Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5LuUpcCwU


A similar analysis of the North Tower impact shows
the same perpendicular alignment of the plane:


Quote:
Last 1.2 Seconds North Tower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=3OtrdIl1ijo

So to tie it all together, we now have hard evidence of computer
targeting at work, based on these WTC videos and previous videos of the
Pentagon flight path. And we have identical final outcomes in each case:
similarly angled impact zones on both Towers.

It all points to a military technological basis
for the 9/11 plane strikes, not inept hijackers who
suddenly became impossibly expert and very lucky.


Quote:
North Tower Impact Angle


South Tower Impact Angle

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niiiiiice Fintan, time for me to eat up Wink. Also, Rahm Emanuel has been replaced in the White House guys, whats the objective?

http://www.examiner.com/dc-in-washington-dc/rahm-emanuel-leaves-white-house-replacement-named
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The shot of the object in the clip shot by the guy who's kid almost erased it is at the very best, inconclusive. The other clip has to be an illustration, as it should due to circumstance, and it is, it's animated.

When you get to the caption:

" Noise was blocked by the tall reddish building "

one must come to a sudden an absolute halt because that's utter rubbish. The author of that video had never heard a large jet twin of any kind, at the speed, anywhere, or at any time ever. The noise is so distinctive and at that air speed would trail the plane by a wide distance. So that is an absolute comical attempt at explaining away the lack of thundering noise from above. Something tells me that it's very very possible that it ain't a real world event. But maybe the Plane, at sub 1,000 ft ELV, was in fact doing the recommended air speed which would account for the lack of noise and the need to somehow explain it all away.

I do however agree 100% on the wire angle, no way they would trust the operation to be carried out by a live human. So how can it be that they would ever bank on the design of the buildings to provide the desired effect once instigated by the planes and the fire alone?

In my opinion they wouldn't, and based on the visual evidence of the collapse, they didn't. The Planes and the Fire had help.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fintan wrote;

'' based on these WTC videos and previous videos of the
Pentagon flight path.''


Just out of curiosity, Fintan, how do you reconcile these two Pentagon flight paths?


1. The flight path used by the 9/11 commission in their deliberations, based on alleged eyewitness reports and damage to the building and the lamp posts allegedly caused by Flight 77.

2. The NIST flight path, shown in their video animation, allegedly based on black box data from Flight 77, which shows a flight path that doesn't even nearly coincide with the damage to the building and light poles allegedly caused by Flight 77.


Could it be that if the airliner is radio controlled and the angle of the discrepancy between the two angles of the flight paths is just the right angle it proves that Flight 77 went where Flight 77 didn't go, and that it used two different flight paths to get there?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those of you, who are smart enough to know what is transpiring here, know that these are historic broadcasts. And by making these broadcasts, I have sealed my fate.

I believe this; I found this to be true. If you’re not walking on the razor blade, you’re really living in a kind of death existence. You have to have that danger facing you, that if I slip, I’m dead.

That’s what makes you live …
That’s what gives you life …
That’s what gives you purpose.

And I sincerely believe that any man or woman who does not have principles, for which their ready and willing to die for, at any given moment that they’re called upon to do that,
is already dead and are of no use or consequence to themselves or anyone else, and will be unhappy throughout their life, for that very reason and that very reason alone.


Bill Cooper – RIP – 6th November, 2001

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LoOk Pa:










Even the best made aircraft have trouble staying together on the INITIAL impact. This is what a real airliner crash looks like:


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three 9/11 Planes.
Three Perfect Strikes.


Analysis of the three plane strikes on 9/11 shows the planes struck
their targets with such a high level of precision that their flight paths
must have been computer controlled.


In the case of the Pentagon, the plane performed an acrobatic turn and then
tracked into the building at low height and high speed.

In the case of the North Tower, the angled plane impact hit the
dead center of the side of the building to within a few feet, while
also banking to one side -- thus spreading destruction and jet fuel
over many floors. The plane at impact was also close to perpendicular
with the side of the building as it struck.

In the case of the South Tower, two course corrections in the last five
seconds took the plane into another angled strike, also close to
square-on, perpendicular with the side of the building.

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzRljtPjOhM

There's a vital reason why planes struck the Towers square on.

If the plane is square-on to the Tower, then the speed of the debris field inside the building is maximized. With a square-on strike, the path of the dismembered plane parts is horizontal --straight across the individual floors.

Preserving the speed of the debris is essential. It is the high speed which gives the plane rubble the ability to slice through core columns.

By comparison, if the strike were angled downwards, the debris would
be slowed down by the floor slabs through which it was moving down.
If the strike were angled sideways, then the debris might miss the core.

But with a square-on strike, one can pick a spot on the side of the
Tower and know the debris will maintain speed and will impact whichever
core columns are directly behind the sillouette where the plane enters.

Flight 175 approached the South Tower from one side; and the plane
also made two turn adjustments just before impact; and the final
impact was steeply angled --yet it struck close to perfectly square-on to
the Tower.

That's an almost impossible feat for a human pilot, but for a computer
which can factor the desired square-on impact into each turn it makes.....
it's no problem whatsoever.

More detailed analysis of the flight path is in the video
"Last 12 Seconds South Tower" in my prev. post above.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a graphic extracted from the video in my
previous post: "Last 12 Seconds South Tower"

Quote:

The NIST report says the
plane was off-square. Like this:

Quote:
NIST Version:


But take a look at this overlay image showing the
NIST angle (Red) and the actual angle from broadcast video:

Quote:

More: http://the911forum.freeforums.org/nist-s-ua175-impact-simulation-wrong-t181.html


Clearly the strike is not as the NIST says,
but is almost exactly square-on.

Quote:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's a vital reason why planes struck the Towers square on.

If the plane is square-on to the Tower, then the speed of the debris field inside the building is maximized. With a square-on strike, the path of the dismembered plane parts is horizontal --straight across the individual floors.


Only the video referenced in the initial post showed the plane in a decent, further it would be next to impossible to hit the Towers, either Tower, anything other than square, even if they struck the corners of the structures instead of the sides, whether it be center, left of center or right of center.

This hard sell is too easy to see.

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Preserving the speed of the debris is essential. It is the high speed which gives the plane rubble the ability to slice through core columns.


Only one huge problem with this, especially in the case of Tower two, the Tower the plane almost missed, the one where the nose out stuff took root. That plane struck the Tower right of center at a slight angle and did so along the narrow axis of the core. This means the majority of any maximized, albeit it in a constant loss of momentum maximized debris ball, parts, or other, missed the core completely. Certainly that nose cone missed, as well as the right engine, so any suspected damage would have been caused by the left wing, or parts thereof which I deem highly unlikely, to totally impossible.

With this kind of angled logic one would be left with a massive problem at the Pentagon site. Since square on impacts seem to effect physical properties like no other, how can it be that something from a 45-52 degree angled strike/impact at the Pentagon was able to penetrate 6 reinforced concrete, steel, brick, limestone, walls?

This is an obvious contradiction.

Oh and the enhanced thing going into the tower in the video is missing the right side of it's tail wing. I like how the wings tips fold forward in the shot before slicing cleanly through the facade. I think that's why every single Doc known to man, plays spooky music and then fades to black just before impact at the south Tower, it just doesn't fit reality.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fruit loop ... cuckoo cuckoo ...



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawk come on, that was PS'd..........................(sarcasm lol)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I like this one better. It speaks volumes.



Have a nice day! Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So here we are four or five years after the
NIST reports were issued, and we find that
their analysis of the South Tower impact is
a crock:


Why?: The angle of the plane entry is wrong,
and thus all their analysis of the effect on the
interior columns is flawed.

Here's how and why they got it wrong:

We know the right engine exited the north east corner
of the South Tower. So NIST figure all they have to do
is pinpoint the entry point of the right engine into the
south face of the Tower; draw a line to the exit point;
and hey presto!... that's the angle of entry.

Quote:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/2006950/1/

Wrong. The true angle of entry is determined from
photo analysis of the flight path shown in my posts above.

Instead NIST assumed the plane angle from the engine path.
But the right engine was deflected inside the Tower.
It's path is not a reliable guide to the aircraft angle.

Quote:

Graphic by achimspok

So what caused the engine to deflect?

Perhaps this interior stairwell. It's not shown in most
official plans, because according to WTC staff who were
interviewed by NIST, the stairwell was a later addition.

Quote:

The right engine may also have been deflected by exterior
column impact at the time the right wing entered the Tower,
or steered to one side by the way the wing broke up.

In any event, this flight path was designed to send debris from
the left wing and fuselage through the eastern side of the core.
Inflicting maximum damage on the easternmost core columns.
The one's nearest the weakened south and east exterior columns.

The key word here is precision. Achieving a square-on angle of
impact, required a precision strike. The last seconds maneuvers
planted the plane square-on to the side of the Tower. And these
maneuvers were humanly almost impossible --but relatively easy
for a computerized targeting system.

This was perfect precision.

Carefully calculated to bring down the Towers.

No Thermite, no C4, no Spacebeams.

Just a perfect precision strike.

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New postPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Planes are made of light materials like aluminum and fiberglass. Think of them as long beer cans. Even birds can give planes problems. The nose cone of the 'plane' cannot be the object exiting the structure. The object has to be a uranium tip or tungsten tip penetrator or CGI imaging. No momentum is lost by this object from impact to exit.

That engine/part above is not from a 767 or a 757. The engine/part shown above in that image is not 15 ft across as per spec sheets.

Quote CNN: 'In January, Emirates airline plans to launch mobile phone usage in its planes, making it the first airline to allow passengers to make cell phone calls on its flights.'
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/12/21/wired.airlines/index.html


If you could call why this headline on the new tech connecting peeps.

These cell phone call connected stories are lies. Hard to buy into planes flying around for an hr and a half unfettered. Then bullshit stories about heroes this and bad guys that on the line. Cell phones use line of site towers that are land based. The towers were never configured to deliver or recieve service directly from or to customers flying along at 30-40000ft. How stupid do they think people are?

To protect the integrity of the electronic control and navigation equipment aboard large airliners in commercial service the use of cellphones designed for terrestrial service is forbidden. The FCC did, however, allocate spectra in the 450 MHz and 800 MHz frequency bands for use by equipment designed and tested as "safe for air-to-ground service" and these systems use widely separated ground stations. In the 450 MHz band co-channel assignments are at least 497 miles apart and in the 800 MHz band only specific sites were authorized by the FCC. The 450 MHz service is limited to "general aviation" users, in corporate jets mostly, while the 800 MHz spectrum can be used by airliners as well as for general aviation. The 450 MHz spectrum is named AGRAS while the 800 MHz service was under review following an auction of the spectrum in 2006.

The cell phone network tower siting distances make these calls impossible.

Planes are Faraday cages above 400ft by eliminating outside signals coming in, and inside signals escaping. There are openings to the outside on everyplane of course. Regardless, it was virtually impossible to connect at low altitudes (4000 to 1000 ft) and then to remain connected if successful. NO calls were possible in 2001 based on the official story of ALTITUDE AT TIME OF CALL CONNECTIONS. The official position states the calls were connected, some lasting as long as 12 minutes, at 30 000ft. More than one call got through? I cannot buy this part of the story. So who made this shit up? And why? Arabs? Taleban?

Or the elitist fraternity scumbags.

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New postPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hombre wrote:
Yeah I like this one better. It speaks volumes.

[ Non PC - deleted ]

Have a nice day! Wink

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That was uncalled for Hombre, lifestyle choices have nothing to do with 911 evidence ... cheap drivel. Where has the evidence researched by Fintan gone wrong and what counter evidence can be used to refute it? He is making headway with the NIST report inaccuracies, doesn't that support your overall "agenda"?

So Sasha, planes were not designed to be aerodynamic ... just large Faraday Cages? Can you use a cell phone in your living room? Seems to me you might by definition, be living in a "homeland" Faraday Cage ... who'd a thunk it? (Incorrect answer is that you don't have a cell phone.)

I'm always open to new data ... let's roll ... Shocked

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